[CLASS BUILD] Schemer's Needler (roguelike Skaen priest)

[harf4ng]

Unsure I'll go solo. I like to have a henchman to torture

BTW in the early game where could I find stilettos? 

Thanks

 

[Boeroer]

You can buy the first unique one right in Gilded Vale from the smith. It's decent.

The next early one is in the fist lvl of the Endless Paths with the big spider.

[harf4ng]

OK thanks. 

I'll have to spare a bit of money though, it costs about 3500 coppers if I remember well. 

[Boeroer]

Yes, a bit expensive so early on. You can also just take non-unique ones and enchant them it with a lash after Caed Nua courtyard (you will get resources for burning and corrosive lash from the blights there). Oidhreacht (the done from the spider) comes free.

[harf4ng]

We can't take all the talents you list, we have to choose isn't it? 

[Boeroer]

No, you can take them all. There are some listed that are automatic (e.g. from race) or story-talents that you can get during a playthrough (e.g. Flick of the Wrist) so it may seem like it's too many.

I didn't put them in order though.

[Scottlameany]

Is there a suggested order for the build, or a side build to consider and come back to this one later? I'm asking to anyone who played this type since level 1. At what level does the efficiency kick in, in your opinion? 

Is this a do anything I can for the figurine and work around that with lots of rests type of thing? 

 

Actually, I can probably iust make 5 more if I'm having troubles on PotD, right? 

I found some of my curiousity answered in this splinter build for lower level play: 

 

Edited February 26, 2020 by Scottlameany
An idea occured to me

[Scottlameany]

Since I needed Caed Nua level 1 done for another stiletto, I tried some new velveeta. Like looters and kobolds versus beetles and spiders caused some weird fights, especially in the new weird places I found them post Maerwald.  They would run from room to room hunting one another if you separated well enough to watch them.

 I finally learned the run away, wait til they turn and pivot back, shooting them in the back dance with a blunderbuss. Takes forever but saves resources. Priest really pushed my creative thinking. 

I don't know if this qualifies as a spoiler, but I was able to get the giant spider to stay where he was after I shot him from the raised platform. A lot of figurines, tho, to keep the adds off me. I dunno if these bugs are xbox ones or for other gamers too. 

 

One thing that I often glazed over, imo, is how like 4 stealth and 1 extra move is soooo much better than 5 stealth. In the beginning quick runner, but 3 survival is almost as good. It makes certain sneaks in Temple of Eothas possible (after boots of stealth for now a 6 score, and at least one extra move). 

Now I'm wondering how he's gonna handle the crucible knights first quest. Or if I will need to respec to do the catacombs delve for the guy's lost love and get some undead immolation.

 

[demon72]

On 11/22/2015 at 5:38 PM, Boeroer said:

Background: Deadfire Archipelago - Mercenary

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Stats:

MIG: 14

CON: 10

DEX: 16 (r or higher)

PER: 18 (! or higher)

INT: 15

RES: 8

 

...how do you get these stats?

missing 3 points.

...or does your MC gets 3 extra stat-points or Mercs 3 less?

which stats would you recommend to reduce?

And is this really a good choice for a Merc-build - as you mention several times how much this build depends on beeing MC?

 

Is Mercenary just for roleplaying-reasons? I understand that he should do the rogue-duties - so wouldn't a background with Mechanics fit better?

Edited February 15, 2021 by demon72

[Boeroer]

It seems to have been an error on my part and nobody noticed before. Thank you, I altered the attributes accordingly.

[demon72]

2 hours ago, demon72 said:

And is this really a good choice for a Merc-build - as you mention several times how much this build depends on beeing MC?

Is Mercenary just for roleplaying-reasons? I understand that he should do the rogue-duties - so wouldn't a background with Mechanics fit better?

...how about these issues?

[Desmodeus]

Mercenary has pretty decent bonus. And priests do not make good mechanists as there is no +2 Mechanics background so you want class with at least +1 to mechanic(As you want to push mechanics very high). Chanter, Wizard or Cipher will make better lockpicker then priest

This build is ok as merc. It just it will miss some stats

[Boeroer]

Most builds are better as MC than as custom adventurer because you can get some story-talents etc. and in case of priest and paladin also better Holy Radiance/Faith and Conviction. In this case it's pretty fitting to make it MC because most of the story talents you can get and which give you a bonus need pretty evil decisions - and a Priest of Skean has no problem with making those decisions.

But all in all it's not a big deal. A priest will always be a great addition to a party no matter if MC or not. It's just a little bit of a plus what the MC gets compared to the hireling. Not game changing by any means. Also a lot of people don't like to play an evil MC - so using an evil hireling (who has nothing to say anyway) is a good alternative. 

Background doesn't really matter. Pick what suits you best.

Edited February 15, 2021 by Boeroer

[Desmodeus]

On 11/22/2015 at 5:38 PM, Boeroer said:

Weapon set 1: Azureith's Stiletto ® (Durgan Refined*, Shocking Lash*, Superb*), Exceptional Stiletto (Durgan Refined*, Shocking Lash*, Kith-Slaying*)

Weapon set 2: Bleak Fang ® (Durgan Refined*, Superb*), Misery's End (Durgan Refined*, Superb*)

Good thing this post came up as I wanted to ask for quite some time. Why is this strange weapon setup? Wouldn't it be more logical to have it:
 

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Weapon set 1: Bleak Fang + Azureith Stiletto

Weapon set 2: Oidhreacht + Mysery end

 

Azureith and Bleak Fang both per encounter spell on on crit so you start with them, unload huge strike on crit and switch to weapon with passive bonuses that will reliably work till the end of fight?

P.S. Girdle of Driving wave is good alternative for Coil. Sure, no stat bonus, but at the same time - full attack for dual wield character(!). Also insanely easy to get

Edited February 16, 2021 by Desmodeus

[Boeroer]

Iirc Girdle of the Driving Wave has an old version of Knockdown which is a primary attack and not a full attack.

[Desmodeus]

55 minutes ago, Boeroer said:

Iirc Girdle of the Driving Wave has an old version of Knockdown which is a primary attack and not a full attack.

Yeah, you are correct. Just rechecked. Pity

[li.co]

On 4/18/2016 at 5:46 PM, Boeroer said:

I would put 10 points minimum into survival nowadays.

 

And I would like to test Vent Pick on this priest - and that club, "St. Wygelt's Cudgel".

 

Maybe I would try to duplicate Vent Pick with the Helwax Mold - or Bleak Fang. Touch of Rot is a nice Spell. 

 

Other than that - it's a priest. You can't go wrong with a priest. Especially Crowns for the Faitful + cipher seems to be a great combo.

 

Painful Interdiction + Secret Horrors is also a great debuff combination for the beginning of a fight. That will lower fort. and will a lot.

 

You could try to use Boots of Speed on the priest (or the cipher) and cast "Hand of Wael on Woe" an the cipher while the cipher casts Ectopsychic Echo on the priest. Nice double-beam that does tons of damage and healing.

 

 

Yeah - at some point you will find that you do way more casting than melee. You will have plenty of spells at some point - aome of them per encounter. But I think it's ok if this guy transforms from melee + casting to pure caster during a playthrough.

Oh no... I already did a few hours and now by chance I see on page 2 that the build is updated T_T

 

Regardless, thanks so much for your builds Boerer. They're the most fun for me and the only ones I play when I come back to the game every now and then. Appreciate for all the work you did.

 

I thought about going Hunter background giving (+1 Survival / +1 Stealth) So I will end up with 10 Survival and 10 Stealth on the dot. You reckon that's a good choice? Thanks again.

[Boeroer]

Thank you.

Sure, Hunter sounds solid.