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This incident is prolly old news to many of you military buffs here, but I'd thought I'd share it anyway, since it's one of the most amazing strokes of luck in a lethal situation I've ever seen:

 

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US military jets are best in the world. Every times when they encounter Russian jets they troll Russian air forces by superior manoeuvrability..

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Menwhile in Syria. Unprofessional Russian pilots do dangerous maneuvrs near of ground.

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As if high-alpha turns and other departure from controlled flight maneuvers haven't been a thing since the 1950s rolleyes.gif:

 

 

 

 

[John] Boyd was famous for a maneuver he called "flat-plating the bird." He would be in the defensive position with a challenger tight on his tail, both pulling heavy Gs, when he would suddenly pull the stick full aft, brace his elbows on either side of the ****pit, so the stick would not move laterally, and stomp the rudder. It was as if a manhole cover were sailing through the air and then suddenly flipped 90 degrees. The underside of the fuselage, wings, and horizontal stabilizer became a speed brake that slowed the Hun from 400 knots to 150 knots in seconds. The pursuing pilot was thrown forward and now Boyd was on his tail radioing "Guns. Guns. Guns."

 

And in an age of continuously computed impact point gun sights, high-off boresight missiles, and intra-flight datalinks, conducting such maneuvers in a modern "knife-fight in a phone booth" are highly inadvisable :

 

 

And US fighters can keep up just fine:

 

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3 points to anyone who can tell what aircraft that HUD belongs to.

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“Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.”
 
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"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

-Rod Serling

 

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Winner! Winner! Chicken Din... errr... MRE!

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“Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.”
 
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"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

-Rod Serling

 

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Murikan army stronk!

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http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/6-reasons-the-us-military-dying-slow-painful-death-16252

6 Signs the U.S. Military Is Dying a Slow, Painful Death

 

The U.S. military seems to be breaking.

 

1. The Marine Corps is pulling parts off of museum planes to keep their F-18s flying. Even with that drastic action, only about 30 percent of their F-18s are ready to fly. Not only that, but instead of getting 25 or 30 hours a month in the ****pit, Marine Corps pilots are getting as little as four hours per month of flying time.

 

2. Only one-third of Army brigades are ready for combat. The Army has now fallen to the smallest level since before World War II, while the top Army general says that the Army would face “high military risk” if it were to fight a serious war.

 

3. The Air Force is cannibalizing parts from some F-16’s to keep other F-16’s flying and is pulling parts off museum planes to keep their B-1 bombers flying. And half of Air Force squadrons are not prepared for serious combat.

 

4. The Navy keeps extending deployments of its ships, but still doesn’t have enough to meet demand. While the Navy needs about 350 ships, today it only has 273.

 

5. Serious crashes of Marine Corps planes and helicopters are nearly double the 10-year average.

 

6. The Air Force’s B-52 bombers are an average of 53 years old. Most Americans would not want to drive across the country in a 53-year-old car (see example below), let alone go to combat in a 53-year-old airplane.

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During the Vietnam war the Russian jets shat on the US counterparts and from what I'm seeing of the next gen jets the US have shown... well it's nothing to brag about.

 

Also considering that a couple of the "invisible" planes (some completely and some crippled beyond repair) were shot down with a prehistoric anti-aircraft weapons during the bombing of Yugoslavia, I would be more worried about the Russian S-400 and the coming S-500.

 

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3 points to anyone who can tell me what plane this is. (hint above)

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3 points to anyone who can tell me what plane this is. (hint above)

 

That's too easy - a F-117 Nighthawk ... not even worth 1 pt. 

 

(The angular shape of the fuselage is a dead giveaway)

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In Vietnam prohibitive ROE and the fact that the VPAF chose when they would go up (basically waiting for un-escorted Thuds) played some part in skewing kill ratios in the early part of the war. In a stand-up fight, they got trounced.

 

I'd also advise you do a little serious reading for youself:

 

http://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/25312/if-all-fighter-jets-become-stealthy-how-will-they-fight-each-other-in-the-futur/25327#25327

 

Older long wave radars like that of the SA-3 perform better against certain kinds of stealth aircraft like the Stinkbug (which was optimised for hi-frequency threats like the new double-digit SAMs that were coming online during its introduction) since the wavelengths were roughly the size of a fighter-sized aircraft, which produced resonances that gave better returns by an order of magnitude. Larger aircraft with all-aspect stealth qualities like the F-22 and the B-2 (because it's big, it's actually even stealthier than smaller stealth aircraft) had been designed in response to this. Long wave radars are also very susceptible to ECM jamming, which the Air Force and Navy have also invested heavily in recent years. That on top of a complex threat environment of air launched decoys, HARM shooters, and cruise missiles coming in low over the horizon when the gloves are off.

 

As for the S-500, I think it should be remembered that the VKS in 2012 (in the golden age of oil, no less)claimed that it would be ready in the year 2013.

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“Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.”
 
-Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>>
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"The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

-Rod Serling

 

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Russia stronk!

http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/05/how-pentagon-preparing-tank-war-russia/128460/
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These days, the charismatic director of the Army’s Capabilities Integration Center is knee-deep in a project called The Russia New Generation Warfare study, an analysis of how Russia is re-inventing land warfare in the mud of Eastern Ukraine.
Speaking recently at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C., McMaster said that the two-year-old conflict had revealed that the Russians have superior artillery firepower, better combat vehicles, and have learned sophisticated use of UAVs for tactical effect.

“We spend a long time talking about winning long-range missile duels,” said McMaster. But long-range missiles only get you through the front door. The question then becomes what will you do when you get there.

“Look at the enemy countermeasures,” he said, noting Russia’s use of nominally semi-professional forces who are capable of “dispersion, concealment, intermingling with civilian populations…the ability to disrupt our network strike capability, precision navigation and timing capabilities.” All of that means “you’re probably going to have a close fight… Increasingly, close combat overmatch is an area we’ve neglected, because we’ve taken it for granted.”

“In a 3-minute period…a Russian fire strike wiped out two mechanized battalions [with] a combination of top-attack munitions and thermobaric warheads,” said Karber. “If you have not experienced or seen the effects of thermobaric warheads, start taking a hard look. They might soon be coming to a theater near you.”

Karber also noted that Russian forces made heavy and integrated use of electronic warfare. It’s used to identify fire sources and command posts and to shut down voice and data communications. In the northern section, he said, “every single tactical radio [the Ukrainian forces] had was taken out by heavy Russian sector-wide EW.” Other EW efforts had taken down Ukrainian quadcopters. Another system was being used to mess with the electrical fuses on Ukrainian artillery shells, ”so when they hit, they’re duds,” he said.

Karber also said the pro-Russian troops in Donbas were using an overlapping mobile radar as well as a new man-portable air defense that’s “integrated into their network and can’t be spoofed by [infrared] decoys” or flares.

If the war in Eastern Ukraine were a real-world test, the Russian T-90 tank passed with flying colors. The tank had seen action in Dagestan and Syria, but has been particularly decisive in Ukraine. The Ukrainians, Karber said, “have not been able to record one single kill on a T-90. They have the new French optics on them. The Russians actually designed them to take advantage of low light, foggy, winter conditions.”

What makes the T-90 so tough? For starters, explosive reactive armor. When you fire a missile at the tank, its skin of metal plates and explosives reacts. The explosive charge clamps the plates together so the rocket can’t pierce the hull.

But that’s only if the missile gets close enough. The latest thing in vehicle defense is active protection systems, or APS, which automatically spot incoming shells and target them with electronic jammers or just shoot them down. “It might use electronics to ‘confuse’ an incoming round, or it might use mass (outgoing bullets, rockets) to destroy the incoming round before it gets too close,” Army director for basic research Jeff Singleton told Defense One in an email.

The T-90’s active protective system is the Shtora-1 countermeasures suite. “I’ve interviewed Ukrainian tank gunners,” said Karber. “They’ll say ‘I had my [anti-tank weapon] right on it, it got right up to it and then they had this miraculous shield. An invisible shield. Suddenly, my anti-tank missile just went up to the sky.’”

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Ukrainian pilot Nadiya Savchenko changed to two Russian warriors captured in East Ukraine.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/25/ukrainian-pilot-nadiya-savchenko-released-by-russia-in-prisoner-swap-deal

Russians after arrival to Moscow

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Brave hero Nadja in Kiev after arrival from Russian Gulag (where she did "Hunger Strike")

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Here she talk speech in Allahu Akbar style.

http://youtu.be/mHDopks6gtQ

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American Special Forces soldiers wearing YPG insignia in Syria:

 

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Problem, Erdogan?

 

 

Meanwhile, the U.S. May 26 denied it has provided arms to the YPG in Syria, despite the insistence of the group to the contrary.

“We are playing an advise and assist role,” U.S. State Department spokesman Mark Toner said. “But assisting is not specifically providing arms.” 

Toner said, however, that there is a lot of “liberated” equipment being used on the battlefield and that it was impossible to say where from where they come

“We just don’t have the clarity on that,” he said.

 

Very clever, Mr. Toner.

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Despite it having the marked benefit of making the Turkish government caterwaul they probably shouldn't wear the YPG badge, while it would not usually be applicable in those circumstances it does open up misidentification or even Perfidy possibilities. There are good reasons why you're expected to wear your own badges and the status/ legality of the YPG is questionable (and I say that as someone who by and large thinks they're the best of the Syrian groups) even if you aren't Erdogan.

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