Dissapointed

[Dalhara]

Copied from a posting I think I placed in the wrong forum. My appologies for that.

 

 

Hi all,

 

I am really sorry to have to write this post but after trying to play the game since it came out, day one, the final straw came today when i started the game to try and discover what I was doing wrong in playing the game (more later) when to my dismay I discovered that all of my saved games were gone and the only option showing to me was to start a new game. Now dont get me wrong, I didnt have hours and hours into the game. I may have done if I could have worked out how to play a bow Ranger, a style i have played in all of my games (BG, BG2, EQ, WoW, DI games - sad I know, but am happy with my abilities in that style) but I am banging my head against the desk. Will come on to that. I have looked withing the genius of Google searching "All my saved games have gone in PoE" and I have noted all that has been said about copying saved games out of the file, re-installing the game etc but even that isnt agreed on nor does it work for all it would seem. My thing is, IT SHOULDNT HAVE TO BE DONE AT ALL. Sorry to shout but it is pure exasperation.

 

My main problem, and the one I have been battling against is combat. I know those of you who are game gurus have explained it elsewhere and I have been scouring You tube, etc to try and find answers but the problem is I play a ranged character with a wolf. Now, at the start of combat, in the intro, I set Calisca to knockdown and the attack whom I think is the mian problem. She will go in and knockdown then carry on attacking the mob. All well and good. A second target I will set my pet to attack and I will use my mark ability. All good. Wolfie attacks, I set my mark and carry on shooting till the mob goes down. Happy days.

 

Then one of the mobs die and it all falls apart. If Calisca is still attacking her target, I select my wolf (Shaznee for those that wanted to know) and set her to attack Caliscas target. A green placement marker appears when I click on the mob and Shaznee duely runns over to it and just stands there, doing nothing. I try to start shooting it with my bow. I have no mark left to set so I select attack and taget the mob. A green recticle appears at the feet of the mob and my RANGER runs over to it and stands there! She canot fire her bow and does nothing. If I select all of them and select attack, she starts firing her bow, the wolf may start attacking but Calisca stops and just stands there. I understand the engagement rules (sort of ) and can see that Calisca has the mob. There is also a green line going from my wolf to the mob the she doesnt attack.

 

When Aloth is recruited, he behaves in the same way! Launch an ability or spell, he does than then stops. I have auto attack enabled but that would seem to be enacted only if my character is attacked but as both my character and Aloth are ranged there is no chance of that happening.

 

I am trying to love this game as I have waited sooo very long for its type to come out but it is just beyond me. Maybe Im to stupid to play it. Maybe if have misread something, I just done know, but the joy is rapidly dimininsing for me and I think I will be setting this game aside. Im really sorry, but for my style, its unplayable as far as I can tell unless someone can tell me what Im doing wrong.

 

Appologies for spelling as I cant seem to find a checker.

 

Safe and happy gaming all,

 

Graeme.

[Fardragon]

Okay. "Saved games are gone": did you try creating another character? If so, it will have put you in a new directory, you need to switch back to your original character and your saved games will be visible.

 

"green placement marker appears": You didn't kick on the target, you clicked the ground NEAR your target. The green circle means you have given a "move to location" order. The mouse cursor changes when it is actually on the target. Edit: you may also be pressing the wrong mouse button. If I remember correctly, the default is right mouse to move, left mouse to attack.

 

"auto attack". This works fine. I suspect you checked it "off" rather than "on".

Edited June 22, 2015 by Fardragon

[synfrei]

Dear Dalhahara/Graeme ,

for my opinion you should not compate PoE with BG, EW, WoW or others. Pillars of Eterntiy likes to start somethin new. So take your time learning the differences. Thats the same iam struggled with at the first time, too... I thought i can play it like other games, but i could not... i died several times. The Giants hit my tank for death and i was shocked until i cleared my mind and re-thought about how to play the game. For me the whole game changed a lot in the moment i tried to accept PoE as it is...

 

If you have questions about the play-stile, ask them here at the forum. There are alot fantastic people onboard who can help you, as they helped me! Thank you.

[Dalhara]

Many thanks to both of you for taking the time to answer me and try and help me out.

 

Please understand that I know that this isnt like the games I mentioned and I do know that it is a new style of game and am excited about that.

 

Re the Green placement marker. I have played since I read your answer and no matter where I taget the enemy, on his body, at his feet on his green placement wheel I always move to him. I have no idea what I am doing wrong. The only way I can get my ranger to fire is to target an enemy and use an ability on him. There is nothing I can do to simply attack him.

 

Re the saved games. I started the game as normal and there were no saved file (there were in the folder, but not accessable through the game) I then started a new character and have been saving as I go along but when I load, the new character is the only one avaliable.

 

Re auto attack. There is no tick in the box because as far as I read it if you put the tick in the box it turns off auto attack

 

I dont mean to be a whinger, I really dont and I want to keep supporting this game but it is frustrating lol.

 

Many thanks for your time,

 

Graeme.

[Ink Blot]

What version of the game do you have (Steam, GOG)? As well, what OS are you playing on? This seems to me to be an issue either with a corrupt install or possibly something going on with permissions.

 

As for your Ranger moving to the target, are you sure you've selected his bow? Perhaps you inadvertently selected bare hands or melee weapon? I know it's a stupid question, but sometimes it's the simple things that are overlooked.

 

Do you have any mods installed? Is the game patched to the latest version?

 

*edit* Something else that occurs to me: you're saying the enemy target circle is green. It should be red. so maybe there's something screwed up with the factions well.

Edited June 22, 2015 by Ink Blot

[Dalhara]

I am running the steam version, well, i bought he disk, on Win 7 Ultimate 64. I have no mods running, it is vanilla.

 

My appologies, I did mean Red recticle for the enemies. Still no luck. I just tried the Gilded Vale boss Lord. I couldnt do it due to the fact my chanter didnt do anything, my ranger didnt either after she finished her abilities and any more than 1 character on a mob just kept running around the enemy I was trying to target.

 

Im sorry that I am going on but I love this game and want it to get better

 

Am pulling what little hair  I have out lol,

 

Graeme.

[Dalhara]

I am running the steam version on Win 7 Ultimate 64 and it is unmodded.

 

I appologies, I did mean the red circle for the enemies. Still no auto attack, still running up to the mob and standing there. Deffo have a bow equiped and a blunderbuss for the big fella. No ranged attacks

 

Tried to do the keep lord for gilded vale but no luck. After all my specials were cast that allowed bow work to follow on my ranger just stoofd there as the team wiped with 3 mobs left. So did the chanter, not a shot fired. Was so disheartening.

 

When is the next patch due out and is this addressed?

 

Many thanks all

 

Graeme.

[Silent Winter]

For saved games - on some setups (like mine - i5 8GB RAM Win7) it takes a while for the game to read the saved games folder - waiting a few minutes after boot-up , before opening the program, should allow you to load the game as normal.

[Ink Blot]

 

Im sorry that I am going on but I love this game and want it to get better

 

Graeme.

No need to apologize. There are a ton of people on here who can give you some ideas to try so you may be able to solve your problem. Just keep posting whatever info you think may be relevant and keep providing answers to peoples' inquiries and hopefully we'll be able to get you rolling without further issues.

 

*edit* I've got to think its an issue on your end though, since so many people have played through the game without these problems. So - fingers crossed - maybe we'll be able to help you figure this out.

Edited June 23, 2015 by Ink Blot

[Fardragon]

 

 

When is the next patch due out and is this addressed?

 

Many thanks all

 

Graeme.

These are not bugs, and therefore will not be "fixed" in a patch.

 

You are doing something wrong. Pressing the wrong mouse button I suspect.

 

1) Load screen. At the top is the name of your current character, with a downwards gold arrow. After that is the list of save games. Scroll right down to the bottom of the screen, and you will see a list of the names of your OTHER characters. Next to them is a gold arrow pointing left. Click on that and your other saved games will be shown.

 

2) Attacking. Pause the game (not essential, but it helps). Hover the cursor over the red circle indicating an enemy. The icon changes into a sword. Left click on the target and the red circle changes into red cross hairs. Unpause. Your target will now proceed to make a default attack with the weapon shown on the leftmost hotkey box. Make sure it doesn't show fists - you can switch to fists even if you have a weapon in both weapon slots. Note that after you attack there will be a pause when nothing will happen, depending on armour worn and reload time. If you are using a ranged weapon you must have a line of sight to your target, otherwise your character will run in until they can see the target. They will also run in if they have been blinded.

Edited June 23, 2015 by Fardragon

[Dalhara]

Morning all,

 

I have just watched Mr Odds lets play Pillars of Eternity No 4. Cypher, war and wizard in the Gilded Vale temple. I am watching the battles and mine do nothing  like this. When CO sets the wizard to attack only a sword appears in the bar above his head. In mine it is feet. All the time no matter where I target the mobs, I never get that icon in my overhead bar. It  will show spells and abilities but never just the sword.

 

I know that I am no where near as good as you guys, but I am sorry Fardragon, I am doing nothing wrong. I have a bow/rod/gun in hand and selected. I am standing of but still I cannot get them to shoot at the mobs. They are not standing directly behind anyone, I am trying to get to grips with positioning and flanking.

 

My game runns nothing like Chris ODDS.

 

Cheers all. Will try and install on another computor and see,

 

Be safe all and happy gaming

 

Graeme.

[Fardragon]

The "feet" Icon appears when you target the ground, rather than the enemy. This will make a green circle appear too. Note that if you correctly target the enemy, no green circle will appear. If you press the right mouse button rather than the left mouse button, you will be able to target the ground and issue a move order, but you will not be able to target an enemy (I've just tested it).

 

I assure you the game is not bugged (well it is, but not in any of the ways you think it is). The way you can tell is this: no one else has the same problem. If you can't accept that you are doing something wrong, you may as well delete the game now.

 

It's just possible that there is a problem with your mouse, causing it to display the cursor in the wrong place, or the left button isn't working. I don't think that is very probable though.

Edited June 23, 2015 by Fardragon

[Dalhara]

Cheers for the reply, Fardragon, deleting now.

[NightRevan]

Well I can't speak to the other issues but when I first got the game I had something similar happen to my save games, having established to characters while figuring which one to focus on in my first playthrough and got to Gilded Vale and was going through the Eothosian temple dungeon when they just disappeared and was frustrating, I created new characters and re-played it while making sure to copy my saves elsewhere. Then one day those saves were gone and the old ones restored, follows eventually but all saves finally showing.

 

Since 1.03 patch it hasn't happened again so I'm sorry if that is still happening for you. It was frustrating for me. I'm sorry you've got to the point of having to delete a game you otherwise would love to play, and just wanted to let you know that you aren't the only one to experience at least some of those issues you listed so it's likely you are not alone on other issues.

 

I certainly don't think it's just because you are doing something wrong, not after this time, so I hope you don't end up thinking that. Sometimes rare and odd glitches do happen on a particular PC and setup. The only thing I can think now if you still wish to persevere is a complete uninstall and delete followed by a clean re-download and install and re-downloading the latest patch in case anything in the first ones got corrupted.

[Marky]

It sounds to me like your game is not installed properly. Since you using steam; try and verify the game cache integrity:

1. Load Steam.
2. From the Library section, right-click on the game and select Properties from the menu.
3. Select the Local files tab and click the "Verify integrity of game cache" button.
4. Steam will verify the game's files - this process may take several minutes.

By the way, what version of the game do you have installed? Is it 1.06?

[Fardragon]

Well, I can exactly reproduce all the OP's so called "glitches" if I click with the right mouse button instead of the left...

 

It's quite possible to go on making the same mistake "after this time" if you can't admit that you are making a mistake.

[Fardragon]

It sounds to me like your game is not installed properly. Since you using steam; try and verify the game cache integrity:

1. Load Steam.
2. From the Library section, right-click on the game and select Properties from the menu.
3. Select the Local files tab and click the "Verify integrity of game cache" button.
4. Steam will verify the game's files - this process may take several minutes.

By the way, what version of the game do you have installed? Is it 1.06?

If the game was installed incorrectly, it is far more likely that it wouldn't run at all.

[NightRevan]

Um, I have had one or two games that had issues which were result of corrupted and improperly installed files which those of which were steam games were solved in the manner Marky describes (Skyrim being one). They still ran, but this can be a cause of problems, which doesn't involve the game not running. If you haven't experienced it I'm glad but it's not that uncommon either.

 

And while it's possible Dalhara here is just determined to keep pressing the wrong mouse button and just adamantly refusing to press any other, consistently on and on, even after been suggested it's an issue. However given the posters clear desire to be able play the game and quite open willingness to try more strong measures the idea that they would refuse to stop pressing the wrong mouse key after it has been suggested when such a thing would both cause an obvious 'ahh, that's what I'm doing wrong, how could I be so daft' (and would be something that would have been attempted or thought of earlier) and something easy to try (then allot of other suggestions) giving their apparent open willingness to try all solutions seems very improbable and to strain credulity for me.

 

So I do think something is corrupted in the files or improperly installed as the more likely and probably of those two hypotheses. So I prefer to trust the person's account rather then go to they are just playing wrong and refuse to admit it, particularly when their behaviour and attitude and what they describe all seem to make that kind of daft stubbornness you suggest highly improbable to me.

 

As such I prefer to trust them.

[Fardragon]

I'm a teacher, so I encounter a lot of daft stubbornness...

[jacksonbenete]

Morning all,

 

I have just watched Mr Odds lets play Pillars of Eternity No 4. Cypher, war and wizard in the Gilded Vale temple. I am watching the battles and mine do nothing  like this. When CO sets the wizard to attack only a sword appears in the bar above his head. In mine it is feet. All the time no matter where I target the mobs, I never get that icon in my overhead bar. It  will show spells and abilities but never just the sword.

 

I know that I am no where near as good as you guys, but I am sorry Fardragon, I am doing nothing wrong. I have a bow/rod/gun in hand and selected. I am standing of but still I cannot get them to shoot at the mobs. They are not standing directly behind anyone, I am trying to get to grips with positioning and flanking.

 

My game runns nothing like Chris ODDS.

 

Cheers all. Will try and install on another computor and see,

 

Be safe all and happy gaming

 

Graeme.

 

Dalhara, the auto-attack sometimes doesn't work properly.

This is something that happens to me, when Edér knockdown an enemy, he doesn't attack the enemy unless I select him and order the attack. Somethings still need improvements in the game.

 

For your problem with the mouse, I suggest you to bind the attack for a button and the move command to another mouse button, you can change the layout and playstyle of your mouse in the options.

 

If someone doesn't want to help, should consider to avoid replying.

If you can, record a video of your problem.

[Marky]

If nothing else works, you could try pressing "a" before clicking on enemies. Pressing "a" should change your icon into a sword, which means you should be able to attack.

[waltc]

 

It sounds to me like your game is not installed properly. Since you using steam; try and verify the game cache integrity:

1. Load Steam.
2. From the Library section, right-click on the game and select Properties from the menu.
3. Select the Local files tab and click the "Verify integrity of game cache" button.
4. Steam will verify the game's files - this process may take several minutes.

By the way, what version of the game do you have installed? Is it 1.06?

If the game was installed incorrectly, it is far more likely that it wouldn't run at all.

 

Not necessarily...People should never install to C:\program files(x86)\PoE or C:\program files\PoE (depending on whether the game you are installing requires 64-bits or 32-bits), because Windows has in place several safeguards in the C:\ root directory that *might* conceivably cause problems for game installations.  The newer your version of Windows is the more stringent are those protections (eg., Win7 is tougher than Vista, Win8.1 is tougher than Win7, etc.)  It's never affected me because I never install games to C:\, anyway, but I have heard of issues arising because of that.  Additionally, I also think it is very important that people not install their Steam directory to C:\program files (x86)\Steam, either...and for the same reasons.  I have my Steam library installed to D:\, E:\ & F:\ and try somewhat loosely to balance the load among those three partitions.  My C:\ drive I reserve for the OS, OS utilities, and hardware drivers.  An advantage of a small C:\ drive--no more than 200GBs, max, is that backups take very little time & space on another drive.  I have a 250GB EVO 850 for C:\, and it takes ~15-30 minutes to do a system image backup.  (Also, separate partitions are nice because if one partition falls because of a write error, you won't lose everything, just what you have installed on that partition--and if a partition should ever fail other than the boot partition C:\, then you can still boot because C:\ will still be up.)

[bjon045]

I'm thinking it could possibly be a corrupted .ini of .cfg file (whichever PoE uses). A steam full re-check probably wouldn't validate this file, similar to how it doesn't for Skyrim. Might be worth looking for the config file and deleting it. Normally these files can be found close to where you would find the save files.

 

Did the re-install work?

[Marky]

I think Dalhara decided to give up on the game.