Baron Bawookles Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I've read a fair share of criticism of the stronghold, that it's nothing more than a money sink, you don't get any bonus for finishing building the thing, and you end up losing more money than making money. So I'm just wondering, what's worth building that's good? I assume the Warden's place is so you can do the bounties. Are the items in the Merchant Hall or Craft Hall worth building for them or is it just generic stuff I can get from another merchant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukefx Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Just generic stuff. The artificer has 2 traps... wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chep Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I think the botanic garden and the craft shop (?) are also decent options since they give you free recipe parts, at least if you're into crafting/enchanting. I also think that you can buy the mindflayer-brains in that shop, so you can do some "exceptional" enchantments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Bawookles Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 I think the botanic garden and the craft shop (?) are also decent options since they give you free recipe parts, at least if you're into crafting/enchanting. I also think that you can buy the mindflayer-brains in that shop, so you can do some "exceptional" enchantments. So no cool or unique weapons from the Merchant Stall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corylea Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) The Gamepressure Guide recommends these. (Everything that follows is from the Gamepressure guide, not from me.) Main Keep - It will allow you to welcome visitors and further upgrade the fortress . Bailey - it cleans up strongholds surroundings and allows further upgrades. Warden's Lodge - you receive the possibility to get new quests. Barracks - they allow you to recruit hirelings, and thus increase prestige and safety pretty cheaply. Dungeons - it allows you to take prisoners during some fights. Botanical Gardens - each turn your stronghold will produce one random plant that can be taken from the chest in the keep. Edited April 1, 2015 by Corylea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanuckle Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I just built everything because roughly halfway through the game, I had 42,000+gold. Once you get out of Defiance, money isn't an object anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corylea Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Once you get out of Defiance, money isn't an object anymore. Good to know! I won't worry so much about it at this point in the game, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukefx Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 You only get the nicer stuff from visiting merchants if you have enough prestige. The merchant will offer one item at a time and it'll only show you its name, no properties are shown until you buy it, and if you don't, next time he may have the same thing for sale, so you better buy the junk if you are after one of those ?9? items. Imo the shield is nice, I wasn't fond of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chep Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 there is a trader in the market place of Twin Elms (well, the village....Heartsong?) that pays 2-3 times the normal selling price for items. In case you still need money lategame (don't expect it) I never understood what the Dungeon is actually good for. Yeah storing prisoners, but what's my benefit? a more "benevolent" reputation since I kill less? more exp/loot somehow? The Merchant has some decent items but nothing unique (I think he has everything in "fine" and getting fine plate armor might be interesting for you, if you build it early on). I really think the craft/curio-shop that sells the body parts is a good building, since improving your stuff to exceptional level is (at least on easy/normal/hard) sufficient until the end of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukefx Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I can tell you what the dungeon is good for... The bad: - unable to complete bounty quest if you imprison a bounty target - less loot because you didn't kill whoever you imprisoned - wasted time and money on building it - prisoners can escape if your security is low The neutral: you can chat with your prisoners (good for people who like to read) The good thing - according to the wiki: You can also get rare items in exchange for one of the prisoners in your dungeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevBlue Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I gotta say so far the stronghold seems underwhelming. I was expecting it to be a little class specific, like in BG2, and to give you special quests and special items available. Man the Planar Sphere in BG2 was just amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icezera Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Barracks definitely. I was able to recruit one potential enemy as a hireling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Bawookles Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 I gotta say so far the stronghold seems underwhelming. I was expecting it to be a little class specific, like in BG2, and to give you special quests and special items available. Man the Planar Sphere in BG2 was just amazing Planar Sphere was the gift that kept on giving... until your apprentices died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasta11 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Barracks, to recruit hirelings. A few NPCs can be convinced to work for you, including a large fellow. Warden's Lodge to get bounties, which award good xp and unique items. Tough fights, so don't get it right away. I finished Act 2 and still haven't been able to put anyone in prison, albeit I did only complete the dungeon recently. General merchant and armorer don't have anything special. And start with Keep and Bailey so that the place doesn't look abandonned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draek Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) I made the dungeon thinking I could put the king in it. Lets just say after the discussion he really wasn't in the mood to breathe a word to me or anyone anymore. Edited April 1, 2015 by draek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvanpyxie Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I never understood what the Dungeon is actually good for. Yeah storing prisoners, but what's my benefit? I had a slaver visit, looking for prisoners to buy. I sold him a guy for a boat load of coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukefx Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 That's something, thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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