Nonek Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Its funny Nonek but when someone says things like " I'd prefer to live here than in the west, but I will not take the moral high ground over Russia, even if they are trying to do so through political maneuvering " this usually comes from someone who lives in a first world country and doesn't really know any other lifestyle. And I'm not judging you, I love the UK and think you are very fortunate to be a citizen of such a progressive and important country. And the UK is also part of the West for purposes of this discussion But you being a citizen of a first world country has obviously blinded you in some areas if you think Putins actions in Ukraine shouldn't be criticized. They must and should be condemned because you need to understand why the West is passing sanctions on Russia as this could have an impact on the UK on some level in the future so you should at least understand the motivation behind the sanctions Also can you stop trying to suggest I am a hypocrite because I say I care about womens rights and also go to strip clubs. I am well aware of your constant attempts to get a reaction from me. You actually tend to repeat this point, using innuendo or course, but you have never bothered to actually ask me if I see the "contradiction ". Also I have always considered this flawed criticism from you to be really petulant and really should be below you intellectually ...at least until you know my official stance But since you asked me in a more polite way I will answer you so you don't have to keep repeating yourself in the hope I will respond I am going to assume you don't go to strip clubs or have friends that are strippers or escorts ?. Because if you did you would know your average strip club doesn't need to use girls that are victims of human trafficking. The girls that come into countries like the UK through cartels and smuggling rings don't work legally, they normally don't have access to there passports and almost all money they make goes to the cartel or there pimp. Its a terrible life and I absolutely reject it The girls I know who work in the industry are there of there own free will, no one controls them and they do that type of work for money to live on I don't judge them at all and there lifestyle choice is completely different to the seedy world of human enslavement you are referring to I have travelled and lived in several other countries Bruce, and have over three decades of experience travelling all over the world, your insinuation is factually incorrect as always. I have views on the Ukraine crisis, but they are not simplistic and so I do not air them, there are startling similarities to previous cold war conflicts that do not automatically mean I favour one side excessively. This is an international argument I have seen before, that has born bitter fruit and only harmed the nation caught between ideologies. Only the simplistic believe that this is simple. In terms of your buying women for your amusement Bruce if you insist on discussing it then I shall, paying for strippers to perform for you is hypocritical and in no way contributes to any kind of social justice, but that is your choice and you are free to excuse this in any way you choose. However your admission that you use prostitutes is disgusting, you are aiding a repressive, illegal industry that is extremely harmful to women and is involved in the international drug and human trafficking trade. To then preach to others and say you believe in social justice is hypocritical and downright despicable. Edit: This is why I have no respect for you or your opinions, or anybody else who abuses women as you do. Edited March 27, 2015 by Nonek Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longknife Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 In terms of your buying women for your amusement Bruce if you insist on discussing it then I shall, paying for strippers to perform for you is hypocritical and in no way contributes to any kind of social justice, but that is your choice and you are free to excuse this in any way you choose. However your admission that you use prostitutes is disgusting, you are aiding a repressive, illegal industry that is extremely harmful to women and is involved in the international drug and human trafficking trade. To then preach to others and say you believe in social justice is hypocritical and downright despicable. *Depending on where he lives. Though of course I don't believe he resides in a country like the Netherlands or Germany that legalizes and provides support for prostitutes. Also, hello everyone. What the HELL are we talking about? 1 "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) You're right Longknife, I got carried away listening to the abusers piffle, i'll just end my conversation with him there as I can already predict his responses. Apologies for dragging the thread down, the hypocrisy simply disgusts me. Edit: Especially so as a father of daughters, this laughing abuse off sickens me. Edited March 27, 2015 by Nonek Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 You're right Longknife, I got carried awayNah, conditions are still pretty ****ty in the legalized countries. The Nordic model is the way to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Its funny Nonek but when someone says things like " I'd prefer to live here than in the west, but I will not take the moral high ground over Russia, even if they are trying to do so through political maneuvering " this usually comes from someone who lives in a first world country and doesn't really know any other lifestyle. And I'm not judging you, I love the UK and think you are very fortunate to be a citizen of such a progressive and important country. And the UK is also part of the West for purposes of this discussion But you being a citizen of a first world country has obviously blinded you in some areas if you think Putins actions in Ukraine shouldn't be criticized. They must and should be condemned because you need to understand why the West is passing sanctions on Russia as this could have an impact on the UK on some level in the future so you should at least understand the motivation behind the sanctions Also can you stop trying to suggest I am a hypocrite because I say I care about womens rights and also go to strip clubs. I am well aware of your constant attempts to get a reaction from me. You actually tend to repeat this point, using innuendo or course, but you have never bothered to actually ask me if I see the "contradiction ". Also I have always considered this flawed criticism from you to be really petulant and really should be below you intellectually ...at least until you know my official stance But since you asked me in a more polite way I will answer you so you don't have to keep repeating yourself in the hope I will respond I am going to assume you don't go to strip clubs or have friends that are strippers or escorts ?. Because if you did you would know your average strip club doesn't need to use girls that are victims of human trafficking. The girls that come into countries like the UK through cartels and smuggling rings don't work legally, they normally don't have access to there passports and almost all money they make goes to the cartel or there pimp. Its a terrible life and I absolutely reject it The girls I know who work in the industry are there of there own free will, no one controls them and they do that type of work for money to live on I don't judge them at all and there lifestyle choice is completely different to the seedy world of human enslavement you are referring to I have travelled and lived in several other countries Bruce, and have over three decades of experience travelling all over the world, your insinuation is factually incorrect as always. I have views on the Ukraine crisis, but they are not simplistic and so I do not air them, there are startling similarities to previous cold war conflicts that do not automatically mean I favour one side excessively. This is an international argument I have seen before, that has born bitter fruit and only harmed the nation caught between ideologies. Only the simplistic believe that this is simple. In terms of your buying women for your amusement Bruce if you insist on discussing it then I shall, paying for strippers to perform for you is hypocritical and in no way contributes to any kind of social justice, but that is your choice and you are free to excuse this in any way you choose. However your admission that you use prostitutes is disgusting, you are aiding a repressive, illegal industry that is extremely harmful to women and is involved in the international drug and human trafficking trade. To then preach to others and say you believe in social justice is hypocritical and downright despicable. Better dead than red Nonek ...better dead than red Sometimes the reasons for political and military conflicts are nuanced and nebulous and it becomes difficult to comment as a person doesn't want to be seen to be unfairly criticizing a particular country But Russian interference in Ukraine is not one of those examples and because it is relevant to the UK and the EU I'm surprised you suddenly don't have a opinion, I mean you have an opinion on basically everything else But I am more concerned with your view that you may favor Russia in this development ? Considering the fact you are a proud Brit who also is informed about world events I find this view most incongruous? Now back to the strippers discussion, I consider the girls I know in the industry to be friends in the party scene. So I have a real relationship with them that I can imagine is difficult to believe or understand. And you right Nonek, I dont go to strip clubs to discuss SJ issues with the strippers. They would get annoyed with me and think I was being patronizing if I said to them " do you girls know that you aren't helping the greater cause of reducing the objectification of women in society by working in a strip club " Sorry Nonek I'm not perfect and can't always raise and enforce SJ issues. Sometimes its just not feasible and in the case of strip clubs its not necessary to raise it when you there Edited March 27, 2015 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I'll expand what I mean in relation to modern leftism in a bit. Making dinner.Expansion. What I mean is the modern (Western) left’s analyses and praxis is highly individualistic and highly submerged in the consumer mentality. Although they’ll certainly pay lip service to X oppressive structure their understanding of it comes from an ultra-liberal idealist perspective so they inevitably always focus on how this effects the individual and more importantly how the individual chooses to respond to this. This is where we get tumblr po-mo nonsense like “agency” and free choices which leads to ridiculous positions like support for institutions such as prostitution or pornography and support for acts like beating and strangling your girl-friend. There are of course those who are somewhat more radical and they’ll highlight that such choices are not free but due to being ignorant of or rejecting the existence of a societal “superstructure” they will then fall back on liberal tactics where they try to challenge them through consumer habits and consumer “shaming”. Another example would be the modern “gender” and “social justice” movements. Gender, rather than being a social construct, a hierarchy or what have you is now a way for the individual to express their own individual style and is an expression of your own agency. Rather than examining what creates and reinforces gender, what purpose it fills and who it harms and benefits the modern leftist instead focuses on “finding which gender fits best” which tends to mean buying a bunch of products and then throwing a label on it. Likewise with “social justice” the emphasis seems to be less concerned hammering out concrete tactics to challenge the existing power structure and more focused on “performance”. I.e. Wearing the right clothes, drinking the right coffees, buying from the right people and shaming those who don’t . Rather than being a movement for liberation and challenging the status-quo modern leftism has reduced itself to a commodity which one can buy to portray an image of uniqueness and individuality. Honestly this is pretty rambley, but what do you expect it’s nearly half past one in the morning here. Pretty what i said, just more eloquent. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 In terms of your buying women for your amusement Bruce if you insist on discussing it then I shall, paying for strippers to perform for you is hypocritical and in no way contributes to any kind of social justice, but that is your choice and you are free to excuse this in any way you choose. However your admission that you use prostitutes is disgusting, you are aiding a repressive, illegal industry that is extremely harmful to women and is involved in the international drug and human trafficking trade. To then preach to others and say you believe in social justice is hypocritical and downright despicable. *Depending on where he lives. Though of course I don't believe he resides in a country like the Netherlands or Germany that legalizes and provides support for prostitutes. Both prostitution and the purchasing of services from prostitutes is illegal in South Africa. So Nonek is correct in this case. Also, hello everyone. What the HELL are we talking about? Circular arguments, which pretty much happens any time we don't have any happenings. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Pray tell, do these phrases sound familiar? -There are no objective truths, just personal experiences -Feelings matter more than facts -Listen & Believe -Patriarchy (western culture, white men) is problematic. Especially in games How are these any different from what the Gramscian example before? Yes they are similar but all these statements would concern me if someone really used them as form of a political manifesto for any group. Thats why that Gramscian article distances itself from them So you would be concerned about the "Gamers are dead"-articles if, and only if, they all officially abided by an ethos or from a political manifesto? No not at all, I read any article that is relevant and then react to it based on what the message is, how its getting explained and finally does it resonate with me I will never understand how some of guys reacted to that Leigh Alexander article. It fascinates me that people like me took something positive from it yet many people were really offended which then lead to them getting annoyed I do think the reaction to the Leigh Alexander article and the creation of GG was really just a result of years of frustration from gamers by being treated a certain way and being lectured by SJW on what is acceptable in gaming The irony being yes SJ movements are real and influential but not much has changed or will change...so its like you guys reacted more to the suggestion of change than actual change So when we have demonstrated the similarities of destructive lines of thought to one philosophy, but you still think think that one positive and other is not without telling the difference? Oh wow. But those are two different things that you are making the same. I had no real issue with the Alexander article but I did find it a little insulting to white gamers because she generalized and didn't explain properly who she was referring to when she said " gamer " so understandably people who were already annoyed reacted a certain way But come on guys...a few generalizations shouldn't effect us and cause us to feel we need to respond in such a dramatic way? Anyway those other points are ideological statements that applied to Communism...not really the same thing as Leigh Alexanders view on transformation in the gaming industry ? See Baroth's post. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) You're right Longknife, I got carried away listening to the abusers piffle, i'll just end my conversation with him there as I can already predict his responses. Apologies for dragging the thread down, the hypocrisy simply disgusts me. No it doesn't, to be truly disgusted you would have to actually care about what happens to strippers and escorts and we both know you are just feigning " disgust " at the fact that I " say I care about womens rights and go to strip clubs " because you think it proves I'm a hypocrite " which would be a good way to dismiss what I say....I mean who would listen to a hypocrite ? Sorry to disappoint you Nonek but I am not embarrassed or see any hypocrisy by the fact I know strippers..back to he drawing board for you or at least stop bringing it up because I believe I have adequately answered the question Edited March 27, 2015 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 In terms of your buying women for your amusement Bruce if you insist on discussing it then I shall, paying for strippers to perform for you is hypocritical and in no way contributes to any kind of social justice, but that is your choice and you are free to excuse this in any way you choose. However your admission that you use prostitutes is disgusting, you are aiding a repressive, illegal industry that is extremely harmful to women and is involved in the international drug and human trafficking trade. To then preach to others and say you believe in social justice is hypocritical and downright despicable. *Depending on where he lives. Though of course I don't believe he resides in a country like the Netherlands or Germany that legalizes and provides support for prostitutes. Both prostitution and the purchasing of services from prostitutes is illegal in South Africa. So Nonek is correct in this case. Also, hello everyone. What the HELL are we talking about? Circular arguments, which pretty much happens any time we don't have any happenings. Since when did we start discussing the legality of visiting a strip club as if its relevant? If you think the legality of visiting a strip is what should influence your decision then I suggest you get out more KP All the places I visit are legal entertainment venues, see below http://thegrandrivonia.co.za/ http://www.teazers.co.za/menu.php http://www.lollipoplounge.co.za/door.php?return=/&e=3600 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 We were talking about prostitutes Bruce, try reading what you're quoting. Perhaps you should apply your online values to your personal life and stop using the services of prostitutes? "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 We were talking about prostitutes Bruce, try reading what you're quoting. Perhaps you should apply your online values to your personal life and stop using the services of prostitutes? I have been only really discussing strippers and strip clubs, not prostitutes. So I would encourage you to try to at least read my posts before you dispute them. And of course an element of prostitution exists in strip clubs but that's not there focus What you guys don't seem to understand, and I tried to explain this, is that what Nonek is pretending to show concern for is the illegal trafficking of women in the sex industry. I am also concerned with that but the places I go to aren't associated with that type of illegal and iniquitous practice "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) We were talking about prostitutes Bruce, try reading what you're quoting. Perhaps you should apply your online values to your personal life and stop using the services of prostitutes? I have been only really discussing strippers and strip clubs, not prostitutes. So I would encourage you to try to at least read my posts before you dispute them. And of course an element of prostitution exists in strip clubs but that's not there focus What you guys don't seem to understand, and I tried to explain this, is that what Nonek is pretending to show concern for is the illegal trafficking of women in the sex industry. I am also concerned with that but the places I go to aren't associated with that type of illegal and iniquitous practice You've previously admitted to using the services of prostitutes Bruce. Nonek is calling your frequent attendance of strip clubs hypocritical but stating that it's your choice so he's fine with it, however he finds your use of prostitutes disgusting and hypocritical. I'm sure attacking Nonek's sincerity is far easier than confronting your own hypocrisy and support of a system that harms real life women. Why do you use the services of prostitutes Bruce? Why support something that treats women that badly? Edited March 27, 2015 by KaineParker "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 We were talking about prostitutes Bruce, try reading what you're quoting. Perhaps you should apply your online values to your personal life and stop using the services of prostitutes? I have been only really discussing strippers and strip clubs, not prostitutes. So I would encourage you to try to at least read my posts before you dispute them. And of course an element of prostitution exists in strip clubs but that's not there focus What you guys don't seem to understand, and I tried to explain this, is that what Nonek is pretending to show concern for is the illegal trafficking of women in the sex industry. I am also concerned with that but the places I go to aren't associated with that type of illegal and iniquitous practice You've previously admitted to using the services of prostitutes Bruce. Nonek is calling your frequent attendance of strip clubs hypocritical but stating that it's your choice so he's fine with it, however he finds your use of prostitutes disgusting and hypocritical. Why do you use the services of prostitutes Bruce? We were talking about prostitutes Bruce, try reading what you're quoting. Perhaps you should apply your online values to your personal life and stop using the services of prostitutes? I have been only really discussing strippers and strip clubs, not prostitutes. So I would encourage you to try to at least read my posts before you dispute them. And of course an element of prostitution exists in strip clubs but that's not there focus What you guys don't seem to understand, and I tried to explain this, is that what Nonek is pretending to show concern for is the illegal trafficking of women in the sex industry. I am also concerned with that but the places I go to aren't associated with that type of illegal and iniquitous practice You've previously admitted to using the services of prostitutes Bruce. Nonek is calling your frequent attendance of strip clubs hypocritical but stating that it's your choice so he's fine with it, however he finds your use of prostitutes disgusting and hypocritical. Why do you use the services of prostitutes Bruce? Oh so we are making a big deal about something I said in the past and not focusing on my actual current posts ...okay typically this would be where you guys say a person is now debating in bad faith but I don't mind because I sometimes rehash older points people have made I am not prepared to explain how I know and interact with escorts unless you are really interested? I'll happily explain if is this isn't some stratagem to try to catch me out..so do you really want to know? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 How do you reconcile your stated beliefs on women's issues with your patronage of prostitutes, something that actively contributes to the exploitation of women? "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 How do you reconcile your stated beliefs on women's issues with your patronage of prostitutes, something that actively contributes to the exploitation of women? You see now I'm disappointed but not surprised, I was hoping you had real some interest apart from a lame attempt to try to prove I'm a hypocrite...which is exactly what Nonek keeps suggesting So there is no need for me to explain because you don't really care and its waste of my time I blame Nonek for your parroting of his views as he makes sense on loads of topics. I just don't agree with his GG stance...well duh !! I know you guys get on well and are forum friends. I respect that but he is wrong about this and now you are as well "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Using the services of prostitutes while taking the positions you do, such as banning prostitutes from GTA, is very hypocritical Bruce. Since you are either unwilling or incapable of explaining how you reconcile your stated beliefs with your actions, I must assume that you are either a very elaborate parody of a neo-liberal capitalist or a hypocrite. In either case, I will discard any input you have when it comes to gender issues. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Using the services of prostitutes while taking the positions you do, such as banning prostitutes from GTA, is very hypocritical Bruce. Since you are either unwilling or incapable of explaining how you reconcile your stated beliefs with your actions, I must assume that you are either a very elaborate parody of a neo-liberal capitalist or a hypocrite. In either case, I will discard any input you have when it comes to gender issues. Oh stop ....its not like you ever cared about what I said when it came to gender issues. In fact I can't remember a time where you ever supported my posts on SJ developments? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Using the services of prostitutes while taking the positions you do, such as banning prostitutes from GTA, is very hypocritical Bruce. Since you are either unwilling or incapable of explaining how you reconcile your stated beliefs with your actions, I must assume that you are either a very elaborate parody of a neo-liberal capitalist or a hypocrite. In either case, I will discard any input you have when it comes to gender issues. Oh stop ....its not like you ever cared about what I said when it came to gender issues. In fact I can't remember a time where you ever supported my posts on SJ developments? Its true, I don't value what you say because you seem to be a hypocrite and most of your SJ topics focus on petty stuff like banning "bossy". "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Insanity: doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results. (this thread gets derailed this way just about every iteration and nothing constructive has ever come out of it. If you cannot little i ignore him- the best solution- you may have to consider big I Ignoring him because otherwise the exact same thing with the exact same people will happen again, in a months time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Insanity: doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results. (this thread gets derailed this way just about every iteration and nothing constructive has ever come out of it. If you cannot little i ignore him- the best solution- you may have to consider big I Ignoring him because otherwise the exact same thing with the exact same people will happen again, in a months time) So your contribution towards this thread is that people should ignore me , thats ironic because thats a comment that isnt relevant to the thread? But I suppose you wanted to say something so that must make it relevant Did it ever occur to you that this thread isnt exactly active anymore and maybe people enjoy discussing the SJ issue I raise, even if it is to disagree with me I assume you are not suggesting that people on this thread can't think for themselves and they need you to tell them the solution is " just to ignore people who try to derail the conversation" Yes I think people on this thread understand what the ignore function means and how to use it but thanks for explaining it....again Edited March 27, 2015 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) Removing pixalated jugs is progressive: http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/03/aesop-games-interview-being-denied-media-coverage-for-sociopolitical-stances/ Progressiveness is awesome! everybody join the hate-train: http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/03/dev-interview-denied-publication-because-it-wasnt-anti-gamergate/ Edited March 27, 2015 by Meshugger "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Removing pixalated jugs is progressive: http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/03/aesop-games-interview-being-denied-media-coverage-for-sociopolitical-stances/ Progressiveness is awesome! everybody join the hate-train: http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/03/dev-interview-denied-publication-because-it-wasnt-anti-gamergate/ Edited March 28, 2015 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longknife Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Why don't SJWs go after some of the pranking community instead? It's so clearly staged and it's sad to see the amount of comments on the video of guys thinking all women are like this, let alone that the video is real. Now I've got a tone of "Gold Digger prank" videos, each more fake than the last, followed by a bunch of dumbasses convincing themselves all women are like this to cover up for their own social ineptitudes. "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Plenty of women are like that. As for video being fake, it happens. But, yeah, absolutely fake. L0L Just like there are men who are gold diggers. Your point? Oh, I forgot. Women are perfect and they can't be criticized. What's funny it shows how little you think of women cause you see them as weak and pathetic. Me, on the other hand,s ee women as string independent adult human beings who can handle life including criticism. So why do you see women as pathetic children, huh? Edited March 28, 2015 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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