Blarghagh Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I think that wasn't hypocrisy so much as a lack of reading comprehension because I'm pretty sure you weren't referring to his joke with your "spitting on consumers who've funded his company" but by his tendency to not deliver any finished kickstarter products at all. 1
BruceVC Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I know that anti gamergate mainly consists of morons, one just has to read their pathetic ramblings but now sitmple addition is beyond them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEDCcdjgMNs No wonder this gentleman cannot complete his games, feels comfortable spitting on the consumers who've funded his company and has single handedly helped tarnish Kickstarter for those companies whom are honestly trying to make games for a living. 1+1+40 does not equal 50. Well technically he isn't spitting on his consumers....he is spitting on GG supporters But Nonek his joke is very juvenile anyway and not really funny. So I'm surprised you are getting upset? Or rather let me ask you this...does this type of thing upset you ? Troll somebody else Bruce i'm tired of your hypocritical act. Geez Nonek.....you definitely got out of the wrong side of bed this morning "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
BruceVC Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I think that wasn't hypocrisy so much as a lack of reading comprehension because I'm pretty sure you weren't referring to his joke with your "spitting on consumers who've funded his company" but by his tendency to not deliver any finished kickstarter products at all. Exactly, that was what I thought. I assumed Nonek was talking about the joke. Why can't others understand me like you TN ...... "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Malcador Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Ah, Schafer, still annoyed at his "LEAVE PETER ALONE!!" video, but that's expected. Weird to dignify GG with mockery at a professional event like GDC, but I am noticing developers are that way these days. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Malcador Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Geez Nonek.....you definitely got out of the wrong side of bed this morning Well he is right, or are you going to peddle more of your bull**** ? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Amentep Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Well technically he isn't spitting on his consumers....he is spitting on GG supporters Should he be spitting on anyone? I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
Chilloutman Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I hope that I will not live to day when games will be considered successfull on same basis as movies today I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
BruceVC Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Geez Nonek.....you definitely got out of the wrong side of bed this morning Well he is right, or are you going to peddle more of your bull**** ? Ah Malc, another one of my loyal fans on these forums...I dont know what I would do if you didn't believe and support me as much as you do. I would probably get depressed Well technically he isn't spitting on his consumers....he is spitting on GG supporters Should he be spitting on anyone? True, rational people don't conduct themselves like that but lets be honest. We are dealing with GG and anti-GG and there are elements in both those groups that probably consider spitting on people perfectly reasonable "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Malcador Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I hope that I will not live to day when games will be considered successfull on same basis as movies today Aren't we there already, considering the income generated by the 'AAA' games and series. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Blarghagh Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Having similar revenue isn't the same as being considered succesful by the public, though.
Fighter Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Is that really want you think? So exoctic dancers get paid to work at parties and functions, this is their livelihood What do you think they would think if you walked up to them and said something similar to " hey do you realize that by doing this job you are undermining feminist causes and not doing justice to gender equality "....they would think you were being patronizing and condescending and probably tell you to " f***k off " Now before I am accused of hypocrisy I have always maintained that unless you can offer those girls another job its makes sense to rather not judge them and utilize there services if required But this has nothing to do with the objectification of women in society...well I don't think it is the same thing. Its all about the girls doing what they doing willingly in order to earn revenue and pay the bills. But its a tough life and career choice so we should always respect them It's not what I think. I thought this should be clear from my stance on "objectification" issues. It's what the people that complain about these things think. I don't have a problem with it. And, yes, I think if you think fictional strippers are sexist but real ones are not it's hypocrisy.
BruceVC Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Is that really want you think? So exoctic dancers get paid to work at parties and functions, this is their livelihood What do you think they would think if you walked up to them and said something similar to " hey do you realize that by doing this job you are undermining feminist causes and not doing justice to gender equality "....they would think you were being patronizing and condescending and probably tell you to " f***k off " Now before I am accused of hypocrisy I have always maintained that unless you can offer those girls another job its makes sense to rather not judge them and utilize there services if required But this has nothing to do with the objectification of women in society...well I don't think it is the same thing. Its all about the girls doing what they doing willingly in order to earn revenue and pay the bills. But its a tough life and career choice so we should always respect them It's not what I think. I thought this should be clear from my stance on "objectification" issues. It's what the people that complain about these things think. I don't have a problem with it. And, yes, I think if you think fictional strippers are sexist but real ones are not it's hypocrisy. Oh I see your point...I never thought about it before Are you suggesting that because I think strippers in games are unacceptable but in RL I have no issue with them I am contradicting myself ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Fighter Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Oh I see your point...I never thought about it before Are you suggesting that because I think strippers in games are unacceptable but in RL I have no issue with them I am contradicting myself ? Do you think that? You seem pro Anita and her kind. This is her kind of opinion.
Chilloutman Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) Oh I see your point...I never thought about it before Are you suggesting that because I think strippers in games are unacceptable but in RL I have no issue with them I am contradicting myself ? Read your last sentence and reply yourself - I am looking forward to that answer xD Edited March 5, 2015 by Chilloutman 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
BruceVC Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Oh I see your point...I never thought about it before Are you suggesting that because I think strippers in games are unacceptable but in RL I have no issue with them I am contradicting myself ? Do you think that? You seem pro Anita and her kind. This is her kind of opinion. Mmmm..I need to think about it I don't think I have ever been specifically against strippers in games and I do use adult mods so I can't claim to be opposed to it....yet I am opposed to certain cases of objectification of women It gets complicated, I'll get back to you "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Chilloutman Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Oh I see your point...I never thought about it before Are you suggesting that because I think strippers in games are unacceptable but in RL I have no issue with them I am contradicting myself ? Do you think that? You seem pro Anita and her kind. This is her kind of opinion. Mmmm..I need to think about it I don't think I have ever been specifically against strippers in games and I do use adult mods so I can't claim to be opposed to it....yet I am opposed to certain cases of objectification of women It gets complicated, I'll get back to you Well, at least we now know you are not eunuch, just hypocrite xD I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Malcador Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Having similar revenue isn't the same as being considered succesful by the public, though. Hm, well, I think they still are - was not really sure what one counts as being successful so I ran with something quantitative. But then again, perhaps I can't see it from outside of the hobby. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Chilloutman Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Having similar revenue isn't the same as being considered succesful by the public, though. Hm, well, I think they still are - was not really sure what one counts as being successful so I ran with something quantitative. But then again, perhaps I can't see it from outside of the hobby. Yeah, I should not used word sucessful but I am now struggling to find correct word I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Meshugger Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 I know that anti gamergate mainly consists of morons, one just has to read their pathetic ramblings but now simple addition is beyond them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEDCcdjgMNs No wonder this gentleman cannot complete his games, feels comfortable spitting on the consumers who've funded his company and has single handedly helped tarnish Kickstarter for those companies whom are honestly trying to make games for a living. 1+1+40 does not equal 50. Kotick was right. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Chilloutman Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Well-regarded? Yeah probably something like that. Sucessful is too much attached to quantity of sold copies or milked monies I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
aluminiumtrioxid Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 And, yes, I think if you think fictional strippers are sexist but real ones are not it's hypocrisy. ...Fictional strippers entirely brought into existence by men, to increase a game's appeal for men is somewhat different from real life, living, breathing, flesh-and-blood people choosing to do that job because - Heavens forbid! - they enjoy it. 1 "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says."
Chilloutman Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 And, yes, I think if you think fictional strippers are sexist but real ones are not it's hypocrisy. ...Fictional strippers entirely brought into existence by men, to increase a game's appeal for men is somewhat different from real life, living, breathing, flesh-and-blood people choosing to do that job because - Heavens forbid! - they enjoy it. Yes right, they would be strippers even if men would not exist xD I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
aluminiumtrioxid Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Yes right, they would be strippers even if men would not exist xD Obviously, women who find other women attractive don't exist outside of porn. "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says."
BruceVC Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 And, yes, I think if you think fictional strippers are sexist but real ones are not it's hypocrisy. ...Fictional strippers entirely brought into existence by men, to increase a game's appeal for men is somewhat different from real life, living, breathing, flesh-and-blood people choosing to do that job because - Heavens forbid! - they enjoy it. Phewwwwwww,.....I am so glad you decided to comment...I was completely stumped Guys what alumin said...there is a difference "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
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