Azure79 Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 While I do hope that Obsidian is making an original character rather than rely on the comics, this theory is interesting. I don't think however that King Ommin is Darth Sion. King Ommin was more like Palpatine in his endeavors, secretive, manipulative and shadowy. Sion feels more like an active character. He is held together by pure darkside hatred. I think that he would relentlessly hunt down his enemies taking them down using all his anger and hate. We do know that our character from KoTOR 2 will have several encounters with him. He is probably given the task of hunting you down, or has his own agenda for seeing you permanently dead. Besides the King Ommin storyline is basically over and I doubt the Devs at Obsidian would resurrect him for KoTOR 2 However if there is a relationship with the comics and Sion, I think a character that appears briefly anf then dies just as quickly will be a better candidate for Sion. His name is Warb Null, an armored darkside user that was like the hand of King Ommin. He was in charge of assaulting Jedi Master Arca and his apprentices Ulic, Cay and Tott Doneeta when they were trying to remove the remains of Freedon Nadd and Queen Amanoa. He suceeded in taking the sarcophgi from Arca. He then was beheaded by Ulic Qel-Droma in their second encounter. This is a character with absolutely no back story, armored from head to toe so that his appearance is a mystery and also sustained major physical abuse at the hands of a Jedi. Any takers? Attached is a pic of him
kumquatq3 Posted August 16, 2004 Posted August 16, 2004 I still think were onto something here, maybe not the sion=king, but there just seems to be some kind of connection
Sweeper Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 Well... the hole thing seems rather complicated.... but i think itcould just fit. firstly the comics never say Ommin actually died. he only was believed dead by the main characters in the story as he was befor by others! secondly there is the fact that lucasarts indeed offers methods to bring dead jedi back. (like in jedi akademy: the sith try to bring lord ragnos back to life. (died 5000 years befor the plot!) ) thirdly i do not really see a problem in ommin beeing arround already 49 years befor TSL.dark lords seem to life quite long: who old do you think Palpatine was in episode one? ...i guess about 60 years old.. or even more. in episode two anakin was at least 10 years older. so palpatine must have been about 70. when luke fought him in episode six he must have been 90 years old at least! and he did not look like already dieing to me.(maybe he was even older- he could have been- he was count dokus master who himself was quite old!) ommin could be 100 years old as well. (he doesn't look young does he:lol:) some have objected to the idea that obsidian just stole the sion-charakter. if sirius theory is write one could say that they really have...but i wouldn't rever to it as stealing; in my opinion it is more like finding an idea you like and developing it. to say they stole the character (if the theory is right) would be an exegeration. he only occured in a comic. i don't think you can have real characters in comics. so most of sion would be made up by obsidian anyway. also the story of TSL may not have much to do with the story in the comic. so IMO it would be alright. by the way i don't think obsidian is allowed to write theirstory without interferences by some LA official. (obsidian seems to have got their senior designer and writer AFTER the story of TSL must have been finished!)
Nur Ab Sal Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 Hmm Novar would be about 80-90 years old around TSL. I always thought that Freedon destroyed Novar's brain the same way Joruus Cbaoth did with General Covell's mind. In end of Freedon Nadd Uprising Satal and Aleema met Freedon and Novar who was lying on his desk without conscience. Big probability that Dark Side Ghost just had some perverse fun with that smart acolyte and change his mind into a plant - wisest option cause Jedi would probably interrogate Novar and find out about many secrets of the fallen dynasty. HERMOCRATES: Nur Ab Sal was one such king. He it was, say the wise men of Egypt, who first put men in the colossus, making many freaks of nature at times when the celestial spheres were well aligned. SOCRATES: This I doubt. We are hearing a child's tale.
Sweeper Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 D*mn! i will read my next post befor i post it! *ing mistakes! write and right...if i mix them means i'm tired...
Chemix Posted September 14, 2004 Posted September 14, 2004 aparently his "soul" was devoured by freedon nad so I don't think there is a real connection here. However had his soul not been devoured it might have been an interesting concept, tying in more and more EU would be quite interesting
Sweeper Posted September 15, 2004 Posted September 15, 2004 who ever read (and wrote) this might be interested in this Topic: "Who is Atris?, I think it is time to work this out!" i have a deep suspition that whoever this Atris is, she has pritty much to do with Sion... -> if sirius is right with Ommin. therefor your knowledge about Ommin could help solving the mistery of Atris. if a conection between Ommin and Atris could be made it would help sirius' theory.
Topaz Quasar Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 What if Darth Sion is this king's illegetimate son?
SilentSentinel7 Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 well then let the chips fall where they may it's interesting but still only speculation :ph34r: :ph34r:
Tel Aviv Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 i have a deep suspition that whoever this Atris is, she has pritty much to do with Sion... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If the word on the grapevine is true, her connection is with Nihilis, not Sion.
DarthRevan987 Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Obvious she will have a strong connection with Nihilis seeing as how she is seen fighting him in alot of the concept art....Maybe a brother and sister feud? Who knows all i know is that it better be good.
Ameorn Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Who knows all i know is that it better be good. I don't think we need to worry about it being good... These devs have alot of experience, i doubt they'll dissapoint us
Laozi Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 The only thing that we do know about Sion is that hes got to be iron like lion from zion Like Natty Dread People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair.
Shadow Diath Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 i have a deep suspition that whoever this Atris is, she has pritty much to do with Sion... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> in case you weren't aware, sion's connection is with [possible spoiler] kreia, according to OXM, i belive. they think she was his master. but its really hard to tell whats true and whats not, when it comes from these mags...
Darth Sirius Posted November 17, 2004 Author Posted November 17, 2004 Obvious she will have a strong connection with Nihilis seeing as how she is seen fighting him in alot of the concept art....Maybe a brother and sister feud? Who knows all i know is that it better be good. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I also had a theory about them being related a while ago, whether by family ties or old master/apprentice relationship, and that still holds. Make no mistake if any of these things turn out to be true, there won't be an opportunity missed for me to remind everyone how clever I am! (w00t)
DarthRevan987 Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 It would be nice if they were bro and sis...would understand the constant feud
DarthRevan987 Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 BTW this topic is old...One of the first threads i posted on here when i joined the forum... Back on topic..On the previous pages of this thread it would seem that it is Sion but they say it isnt.
Tel Aviv Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 i have a deep suspition that whoever this Atris is, she has pritty much to do with Sion... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> in case you weren't aware, sion's connection is with [possible spoiler] kreia, according to OXM, i belive. they think she was his master. but its really hard to tell whats true and whats not, when it comes from these mags... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its also been stated that Nihilus was Atris' padawan before falling to the dark side . I can't recall where this rumor came from though. I think it may have been leaked by an alleged Australian journalist. No confirmation yet though. And at this point I suppose we have to doubt everything.
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Isn't Atris a bit young to have a padawan? Especially an adult one like Darth Nihilus And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
Tel Aviv Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Isn't Atris a bit young to have a padawan? Especially an adult one like Darth Nihilus <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know. Its pretty dubious business isn't it. I wouldn't put too much faith in the rumor at the moment.
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Yeah I wouldn't bother with the rumour as well. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
KOTORFanactic Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Isn't Atris a bit young to have a padawan? Especially an adult one like Darth Nihilus We do not know the age of Atris, or Nihilus for that matter. So though possible, it could also be other way round. Atris could have been Nihilus apprentice before Nihilus fell. Most likely the answer will be revealed in the game.
MASTER Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 I hope it aint. I want it to be oringal but being baised and supported by other star wars stuff.
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