Blarghagh Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) I'd say at a certain level of play StarCraft becomes all about hand-eye coordination and physical speed. A big deal is made out of APM for a reason. That's really showcasing faults in the game more than anything else. Frantic mouse clicking should not be much of an RTS asset. Decisionmaking should be. Actions per minute =/ clicks per minute. It's everything that actually does something. Anything that does nothing is not counted. Edited June 15, 2012 by TrueNeutral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 APM exists because in RTS, positioning and ability usage are always important. The higher your APM, the faster you can update your units' orders. APM is just more often more spectacular than thinking. Nice tricks still have their moments of glory and they are still the reason you win in the end. APM may be very important, but no-one thinks that's what'll win your game in the end in SC2 for example. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 If you have to be all over the place with the mouse all the time it just means the controls and shortcuts are bad. There is no option to queue up construction & research, you can't set a unit to auto use its ability, that kind og thing. Maybe they made them that way so we could be dutifully impressed with people who are good at being hyper, it's still just bad controls though. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmp10 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 If you have to be all over the place with the mouse all the time it just means the controls and shortcuts are bad. That's exactly the point in RTS 'esport'. The controls must be bad (especially in games like SC2) or skill celling would be too low and professionals would have similar results to casual gamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 That's unfair, there is a lot of strategy going on in SC2 competetive gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 The point is how much of that frantic imput goes to respond to the tactical situation and how much is just filler. There is fair ammount of filler in series like SC and Warhammer at least. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmp10 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 The point is how much of that frantic imput goes to respond to the tactical situation and how much is just filler. There is fair ammount of filler in series like SC and Warhammer at least. Likely 99% of input is unnecessary but that doesn't matter. The ability to have your fingers warm and in good rhythm is so important that everybody dose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 I watch a lot of CoH tournies and APM is pretty important, that and an almost sensei-like understanding of the meta-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero_or_more Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If those games were to center around strategy and decisions they would stick to turn-based format. QFT Generally I have a hard time calling anything 'sport' which is an interface to an API... And no problem with people having fun for sure, but the expression 'professional gaming' always makes me lol so hard. 1 Words to avoid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 This is my problem too. I love high-level skilled gaming but a.... sport? Gedouttahere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Don't see what problem you guys have with a game being a sport. o.O Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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