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[Mamoulian War]

What's wrong with charging a smaller amount upfront and then having to pay for the parts if you like it? If it comes up to a normal game's cost and length you'll end up saving money if the game sucks, no?

 

It might lead to games being frontloaded, but that's pretty much the case anyway.

 

EDIT: This is assuming that all the parts of the game are completed at release.

 

Or what about using already established way of distributing incomplete software? You get part of it for free, and if you like you buy the cut-off content... Shareware worked great for id Software and Apogee...

Edited July 15, 2010 by Mamoulian War

[Azdeus]

Indeed, the id

[Mamoulian War]

Indeed, the id

[Purkake]

Maybe they ship a game without the exe file so that you have to pay extra for that. It would be hilarious.

Bioshock did that and probably quite a few other Online Securom using games.

 

@ all the hate. There is nothing wrong with the idea itself.

[Azdeus]

Yep, and the whole concept also reeks as a PR scheme to get away with paying for Demo's. "Lulz", I'm losing more and more faith in humanity with each passing day. And I'm 25 years old...

[Malcador]

Nice, so we pay for demos. I remember seeing those on shelves long ago. I really hate this industry.

[Mamoulian War]

Maybe they ship a game without the exe file so that you have to pay extra for that. It would be hilarious.

Bioshock did that and probably quite a few other Online Securom using games.

 

@ all the hate. There is nothing wrong with the idea itself.

 

If you don't see anything wrong with the idea of buying game for 50EUR and then paying another 10EUR for final boss fight, so just you could finnish the game, then i say, there is something wrong with you

[Thorton_AP]

If you don't see anything wrong with the idea of buying game for 50EUR and then paying another 10EUR for final boss fight, so just you could finnish the game, then i say, there is something wrong with you

 

Is that the pricing model that they will be using?

[Azdeus]

In his defence, he did say;

What's wrong with charging a smaller amount upfront and then having to pay for the parts if you like it? If it comes up to a normal game's cost and length you'll end up saving money if the game sucks, no?

 

It might lead to games being frontloaded, but that's pretty much the case anyway.

 

EDIT: This is assuming that all the parts of the game are completed at release.

 

@Thorton_AP; Depends on how cynical you are, as far as I read it he did'nt make a sound resembling "pricing" anywhere.

Edited July 15, 2010 by Azdeus

[Purkake]

Maybe they ship a game without the exe file so that you have to pay extra for that. It would be hilarious.

Bioshock did that and probably quite a few other Online Securom using games.

 

@ all the hate. There is nothing wrong with the idea itself.

 

If you don't see anything wrong with the idea of buying game for 50EUR and then paying another 10EUR for final boss fight, so just you could finnish the game, then i say, there is something wrong with you

I was speaking of the model where you get the first part for free or for ~$10 and then pay another 10 for another part and get about the same value out of them at $50 as you would a normal $50 game. All that changes in this case is the initial investment.

 

As for paying for demos, we hardly ever get demos any more.

 

The model you describe would be a ye olde "screw the second hand market" trick, if the cost comes out the same in the end, it doesn't really matter other than being slightly less convenient.

Edited July 15, 2010 by Purkake

[Mamoulian War]

Maybe they ship a game without the exe file so that you have to pay extra for that. It would be hilarious.

Bioshock did that and probably quite a few other Online Securom using games.

 

@ all the hate. There is nothing wrong with the idea itself.

 

If you don't see anything wrong with the idea of buying game for 50EUR and then paying another 10EUR for final boss fight, so just you could finnish the game, then i say, there is something wrong with you

I was speaking of the model where you get the first part for free or for ~$10 and then pay another 10 for another part and get about the same value out of them at $50 as you would a normal $50 game. All that changes in this case is the initial investment.

 

As for paying for demos, we hardly ever get demos any more.

 

The model you describe would be a ye olde "screw the second hand market" trick, if the cost comes out the same in the end, it doesn't really matter other than being slightly less convenient.

 

I am not affraid to bet my ass, that this move is again more about ****ing 2ndhand sales customer rights in the ass, than about piracy...

[Niten_Ryu]

PC Zone UK magazine is to shut after 17 years

 

I bought few PC Zone magazines before the internet was common in early 90's. Content was usually garbage but before the internet (and if you didn't ware). demoCDs or floppies were important. For some reason or other finnish magazines at that time didn't have demodisks. Well, PC gaming is just about dead so no wonder PC Zone died.

[Thorton_AP]

I am not affraid to bet my ass, that this move is again more about ****ing 2ndhand sales customer rights in the ass, than about piracy...

 

That is pretty much what Purkake said...

[Purkake]

Indeed, second hand sales are hurting publishers as much as piracy is and they would love to get rid of it.

[Oner]

I know that the video game industry is a merciless beast but the publishers are getting more and more insane.

[Purkake]

It's a business like every other, the point is to maximize your profits.

[Oner]

Hey, others got by just fine in the last few centuries.

Then again, Acti hasn't sent assassins to EA. Yet.

[Mamoulian War]

Indeed, second hand sales are hurting publishers as much as piracy is and they would love to get rid of it.

 

they are hurting them, as much, as the seconds hand sale of used cars is hurting car industry... it creates more new car sales... fighting this is the most stupid and ridiculous idea ever...

[Thorton_AP]

Indeed, second hand sales are hurting publishers as much as piracy is and they would love to get rid of it.

 

they are hurting them, as much, as the seconds hand sale of used cars is hurting car industry... it creates more new car sales... fighting this is the most stupid and ridiculous idea ever...

 

This assumption is only true if people sell their games to stores, and then buy new copies of the game.

 

Having worked in game stores, second hand game sales make a killing. And we'd happily buy back that used copy of the game, for some guy to buy a used copy of another new game that just came out.

[Malcador]

It'd be neat if they would ever quantify these losses that they're suffering.

[Calax]

Tim Schafer has retracted his statements about Kotick being a complete Cheney, because he didn't realize the mic was on.

 

[Thorton_AP]

Really? HAHA

[Purkake]

Here's an article on second hand sales and piracy.

 

The car analogy is somewhat flawed because making each car cost money, giving each individual copy a significant value. On the other hand you can copy data infinitely and perfectly for a negligible cost.

[funcroc]

New Oddworld games to be revealed soon

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[Nihilus5078]

Heard that Capcom might make a Resident Evil 6. That will be sweet as hell if they do. Also heard they will release The Force Unleashed II on October 26th.

Edited July 16, 2010 by Nihilus5078