New XCOM game

[Tigranes]

But why not just make it a new franchise? There's no difference.

[Mamoulian War]

Maybe it'll be a squad-based horror-type thingie.

 

If it would be squad-based coop only thingie, then it might be worth to at least look at it... if just another random singleplayer, i'll rather install me back HL-Blue Shift...

[Morgoth]

But why not just make it a new franchise? There's no difference.

It's all about building up hype. Have the "old" players raging and moaning around sort of also creates hype and awarenes. It worked with Fallout 3.

[Morgoth]

Maybe it'll be a squad-based horror-type thingie.

I thought they'd recreate a X-Com Alliance, but from the artworks it seems it's set in the 50s or 60s. Not sure if a squad-based gameplay there makes sense.

[Rostere]

Deja vu! And to think someone would get this stupid idea again.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-COM:_Enforcer

 

Geez, you really are stubborn.

 

Shooters have increasingly got better and better. Remember trash like Quake, Doom and Blood (no story, boring level design) and compare it with what Monolith, Valve or Irrational does today.

 

Seriously, dude. Don't talk **** about those games. Only a month or so since I last played Blood. It's an excellent game, with a lot more character than games in general have today.

[Mamoulian War]

Geez, you really are stubborn.

 

Shooters have increasingly got better and better. Remember trash like Quake, Doom and Blood (no story, boring level design) and compare it with what Monolith, Valve or Irrational does today.

 

Seriously, dude. Don't talk **** about those games. Only a month or so since I last played Blood. It's an excellent game, with a lot more character than games in general have today.

 

+1

 

Blood, Unreal Tournament Classic and Quake 3 Arena are 3 best FFA Multiplayer games ever created, everything new just lacks the simplicity of their map design... when you are running for your life, antialiasing on the grass leafs under the dynamic shadow of the tree is the last thing you care about...

Edited April 14, 2010 by Mamoulian War

[Morgoth]

Seriously, dude. Don't talk **** about those games. Only a month or so since I last played Blood. It's an excellent game, with a lot more character than games in general have today.

Just because you and your two friends enjoy that old nonsense won't mean that publishers suddendly decide to go back and make old-fashioned corridor shooters again that only require you to use 4 keys and 1 mouse button.

[213374U]

Doesn't AvP already cover that market segment?

AvP had squadies?

He may have been referring to Gearbox's Alien: Colonial Marines.

 

As for the game in question, I'll just wait and see. Most cross-platform shooters are turds without any redeeming qualities, though. So chances are Morgy will get his fix. \o/

[Morgoth]

Most cross-platform shooters are turds without any redeeming qualities, though. So chances are Morgy will get his fix. \o/

2K Marin proved themselves with Bioshock2, so yeah, I'm sure I'll get my fix, while you still can wait for your next big non-cross-platform shooter...whenever that will be.

[213374U]

Yeah, with great amounts of "professional narrative", no doubt. lololol

[Slowtrain]

btw, slowtrain: if you want to tell me why I'm wrong that's cool, I'm not blind to the possibility. But so far I just see a sarcastic trivialisation, so I don't really have a response yet.

 

 

wait, what?

 

I haven't even posted my response to this bit of news yet.

[Slowtrain]

Didn't Bioshock 2 pretty much suck?

[Morgoth]

Didn't Bioshock 2 pretty much suck?

No it didn't. News at 11.

[Mamoulian War]

btw, slowtrain: if you want to tell me why I'm wrong that's cool, I'm not blind to the possibility. But so far I just see a sarcastic trivialisation, so I don't really have a response yet.

 

 

wait, what?

 

I haven't even posted my response to this bit of news yet.

 

I bet he knew what you were thinking about!!!

[Slowtrain]

Didn't Bioshock 2 pretty much suck?

No it didn't. News at 11.

 

 

Seems to me I recall a concensus that while the combat was better, pretty much everything else was much worse. The game brought nothing to the table except arcade powers and stuff.

[Morgoth]

Have you played it yourself? Did you hate Bioshock1? Chances are if you did, you'll also hate BS2.

[Slowtrain]

Have you played it yourself? Did you hate Bioshock1? Chances are if you did, you'll also hate BS2.

 

Nope. Bioshock was a terrible game. Wasn't going to spend my money on BS2 after the wretched experience that was BS1.

 

But I'm not talking about me, just recalling what the general take on BS 2 was when it was released.

[Morgoth]

But I'm not talking about me, just recalling what the general take on BS 2 was when it was released.

Critically it was pretty good, it also sold buckets of money, the old fans hated it but it also created new fans.

 

Overall, I liked it more than BS1, but I guess I'm in the minority there.

[Slowtrain]

But I'm not talking about me, just recalling what the general take on BS 2 was when it was released.

Critically it was pretty good, it also sold buckets of money, the old fans hated it but it also created new fans.

 

 

From what I understand though, it focused on the arcade shooter elements of the gameplay and didn't another much (or at all) with the developing or expanding on more serious story-telling aspect of BS1.

 

Doesn't give me much faith that they can create a intense, narrativedriven game based on the XCOM IP. What it tells me is that XCOM FPS will be an arcade shooter.

 

Personally, I don't care much what they call. XCom is just a name, it doesn't mean a game will be good or bad.

 

But a developer's track record is a lot more indicitive of how the game will turn out.

 

 

Overall, I liked it more than BS1, but I guess I'm in the minority there.

 

No one says you can't like a game. Liek is personal. I liked STALKER a lot more than Bioshock. You didn't. That's fine.

[Mamoulian War]

Overall, I liked it more than BS1, but I guess I'm in the minority there.

 

No one says you can't like a game. Liek is personal. I liked STALKER a lot more than Bioshock. You didn't. That's fine.

 

Though he is surprised how some minority people might like TBSs or Blood

[Malcador]

Man, this makes me wish Alliance never got cancelled. Also, FBI agents ?

[Meshugger]

XCom was incredible back when i was a kid. Shooters however? Meh, meh, meh, meh. Often crappy atmosphere and sense of scope.

 

- Doom 1 & 2 and Quake 1,2,3 were ok, but nothing that you really cared about outside some fun with your friends.

- Unreal 1 was sublime, it was the reason that i started to appriciate shooters as a serious genre in gaming. Incredible all the way through. Transcended the genre.

- System Shock 2 was an andrenaline rush. Excelling within the same areas as Unreal 1. Intense atmosphere.

- Unreal Tournament 1 was fun with your friends + it had some of the vibe of Unreal 1.

- Half-life was a brown, red and grey combination of bore, same with its successor(s).

- Halo: CE had the same impact as Unreal 1. Trancended the genre, and truly was Combat Evolved back in the day. Made my personal shooter-meter go through the roof. Halo 2 and 3 were real turds though.

- Deus Ex 1 transcended the genre for other reasons than Halo. More like System Shock 2. Unparalelled.

- NOLF 1, 2 were ok, but nothing special.

- Serious Sam was not that serius.

- Fear 1 was ok, but gimmickly. Nice A.I. though. Nothing special in the long run.

- Doom III and Quake IV? hahahah.

- Bioshock. Pretty, nice art design and ideas (= A MAN CHOOSES, A SLAVE OBEYS). Failed in everything else.

 

(I never finished System Shock 1(slow comp. at the time), nor any of the Thief games(crashing non-stop))

 

 

So there you have it: The only worthwhile shooters than have been released during the last 20 years have been: Unreal 1, System Shock 2, Deus Ex 1 and Halo CE. I have very little confidence that XCom: pew-pew-edition will be anything interesting.

[HoonDing]

Can't anyone just finish Dune Nukem Forever?

 

[Slowtrain]

I'm waiting for Deus Ex, the MMORPG.

[funcroc]

Kotaku AU editor's tweets

"Also, the Canberra studio is leading the design, and these guys made Freedom Force."

"they're heading it up, with assistance from Marin. Not sure why the PR only mentioned Marin though..."

"Canberra is part of California now? That's worse than Team Bondi being based in Pyrmont.."

 

official PR

"About 2K Marin: With sister studios in Novato, California and Canberra, Australia, 2K Marin is a 2K development studio focused on creating new IP and expanding proven franchises for 2K Games."