Deus Ex 3

[Gorgon]

CGI trailers that have nothing to do with the engine are utterly pointless.

[Syraxis]

CGI trailers that have nothing to do with the engine are utterly pointless.

 

But they can be a fun watch.

[Slowtrain]

CGI trailers that have nothing to do with the engine are utterly pointless.

 

 

You would think that would be obvious to people who have played games for a while, wouldn't you?

[WorstUsernameEver]

There have been screenshots and gameplay info by the way, it's not like we've got only the CGI trailer to discuss about.

And by the way, while CGI are as far from the meat of a game as you can get and are essentially a marketing gimmick, this was good in giving you an immediate visual representation of the game's art direction, of some plot points and of a couple of things you can do in the game (though of course, they'll probably end up looking much less awesome).

[Hell Kitty]

That's right folks, advertisements are completely pointless. Reality may disagree, but cynical internet men know the Truth!

[Syraxis]

There have been screenshots and gameplay info by the way, it's not like we've got only the CGI trailer to discuss about.

And by the way, while CGI are as far from the meat of a game as you can get and are essentially a marketing gimmick, this was good in giving you an immediate visual representation of the game's art direction, of some plot points and of a couple of things you can do in the game (though of course, they'll probably end up looking much less awesome).

 

 

That's right folks, advertisements are completely pointless. Reality may disagree, but cynical internet men know the Truth!

[Hell Kitty]

There have been screenshots and gameplay info by the way, it's not like we've got only the CGI trailer to discuss about.

And by the way, while CGI are as far from the meat of a game as you can get and are essentially a marketing gimmick, this was good in giving you an immediate visual representation of the game's art direction, of some plot points and of a couple of things you can do in the game (though of course, they'll probably end up looking much less awesome).

 

 

That's right folks, advertisements are completely pointless. Reality may disagree, but cynical internet men know the Truth!

 

I think you forgot to include some commentary with those quotes.

[Syraxis]

There have been screenshots and gameplay info by the way, it's not like we've got only the CGI trailer to discuss about.

And by the way, while CGI are as far from the meat of a game as you can get and are essentially a marketing gimmick, this was good in giving you an immediate visual representation of the game's art direction, of some plot points and of a couple of things you can do in the game (though of course, they'll probably end up looking much less awesome).

 

 

That's right folks, advertisements are completely pointless. Reality may disagree, but cynical internet men know the Truth!

 

I think you forgot to include some commentary with those quotes.

 

Simply expressing my agreement with above statements.

[Raithe]

It's an interesting choice of art direction.. but until there's more to see I'm not going to make up my mind on whether its bad or good. At least there's a known reasoning behind it... rather then just something thrown in for no reason in particular..

[WorstUsernameEver]

Pro-tip : gotta reread my posts before posting them.

[Gorgon]

That's right folks, advertisements are completely pointless. Reality may disagree, but cynical internet men know the Truth!

Well they are completely poinless to me. Does that make me cynical ?.

 

You fail at sarcasm.

[Oner]

In Eidos Montreal's quest to be different, Jacques-Belletete said he focused the team to have two design analogies in mind--the Icarus myth and the Renaissance. Jacques-Belletete said Icarus fit the theme of transhumanism perfectly. "Dude, this guy is augmented. That's transhumanism," he said. "He has too much fun with transhumanism, and then he burns and falls to his death--this is my metaphor; this is perfect."

DX3's gonna own you guys!!!

Just remembered, DX 1's premise came into existence somehow like this: My (Warren Spector) wife loves X-Files. What is X-Files made of? Conspiracies, aliens, conspiracies. Why not make a game with even more conspiracies and hair raising theories?

[WorstUsernameEver]

In Eidos Montreal's quest to be different, Jacques-Belletete said he focused the team to have two design analogies in mind--the Icarus myth and the Renaissance. Jacques-Belletete said Icarus fit the theme of transhumanism perfectly. "Dude, this guy is augmented. That's transhumanism," he said. "He has too much fun with transhumanism, and then he burns and falls to his death--this is my metaphor; this is perfect."

DX3's gonna own you guys!!!

Just remembered, DX 1's premise came into existence somehow like this: My (Warren Spector) wife loves X-Files. What is X-Files made of? Conspiracies, aliens, conspiracies. Why not make a game with even more conspiracies and hair raising theories?

 

I thought Deus Ex's premise was 'why the **** can't I fight in Thief if I want to? why am I forced to stealth? NERDRAEEEEEEEEG, me gonna go and make Deus Ex', or at least, that's pretty much how I remember Warren Spector describing it in a blog post.

[Oner]

Well you're talking about gameplay, I'm talking about story.

[Hell Kitty]

Well they are completely poinless to me.

 

Fair enough, though with that cleared up Slowtrain's comment no longer makes any sense.

 

You would think that would be obvious to people who have played games for a while, that Gorgon thinks ads are pointless, wouldn't you?

 

The foibles of internet communication.

 

Does that make me cynical ?.

 

I don't think that was ever in question. In my opinion.

 

Just remembered, DX 1's premise came into existence somehow like this: My (Warren Spector) wife loves X-Files. What is X-Files made of? Conspiracies, aliens, conspiracies. Why not make a game with even more conspiracies and hair raising theories?

 

That's a filthy lie. The original's premise came about in some incredibly complex, PC-centric way. Don't go dumbing down the past. Sigh. I don't know why I even play games any more. Sigh. I'm too old for this ****.

Edited June 6, 2010 by Hell Kitty

[WorstUsernameEver]

Well you're talking about gameplay, I'm talking about story.

 

Oh ok, that sounds about right.

[Gorgon]

*Cynical internet man dodges another sniping remark from his arch nemesis sarcastic internet man*. Unfortunately his world weary indifferent nature does not allow him to get sufficiently emotionally motivated to return fire. Instead he counters with a seasoned thousand mile stare*

Edited June 6, 2010 by Gorgon

[Malcador]

Not really seeing what's the issue about being cynical about advertising. Just thinking about it, it's foolish to fall for it. Anyway, aren't cynical internet man and sarcastic internet man the same man ? Seems to be most of the time

[Gorgon]

They were created in the same freak gamma ray accident.

[Hell Kitty]

Not really seeing what's the issue about being cynical about advertising. Just thinking about it, it's foolish to fall for it.

 

If one is commenting on it, then one has already fallen for it. Although seeing advertising as something you "fall for" suggests it's some kind of trap, which is a terribly cynical way of looking at things. The only way to avoid "falling" for it is to ignore it completely, and if we're taking notice of and commenting on it then the ad has done it's job. As much as folks like to think they're smarter than the average bear and totally above the hype, by being a part of the conversation they make themselves a part of the hype. The only winning move is not to play, but the burning desire to express our opinion, even if it's a whiny negative one, will always win out in the end.

[Gorgon]

Well, isn't a CGI trailer a trap. It tells you nothing about how the game is going to play, it just dazzles you with effects and action.

[Malcador]

Weird, I'm not contributing to the hype at all, none of us posting here are. How many eyes do you think come across this thread and what do they add to it ? User Malcador being negative about this game isn't going to carry very far. Some of "day one purchase!" cries may lead to people believing it's good because some dude online on a forum said so, though. It really is a trap though, not that cynical, just looking at it reasonably. Nice touch adding the "whiney" though, heh. Gotta remember to check avatars for hints

[Oner]

I don't see the problem.

CGI trailer, it's primarily there to catch people's attention, send them in an awe and set mood. It's setting the mood quite well and regardless of it's actual representation of the final games' quality, it is a great video. And we are talking about it so it got our attention, yes?

As a bonus, there even are a few gameplay sneak peaks in them (arm blade, energy shield).

[Gorgon]

The way his sunglasses retract mechanically.... just... I dunno what to say. Retarded would be inadequate.

[Purkake]

I just remembered that the Squadron of Shame had a really good Deus Ex retrospective, discussing what it was, what it was trying to accomplish and how well it did that. Good stuff.

Edited June 6, 2010 by Purkake