Laozi Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Hey man, I'm all for North Korea. Their children's hands are as small as anyone's and as capable of the type of quality stitching I demand in my consumer goods. People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair.
Killian Kalthorne Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Just because all revolutions are drenched in blood does not make all revolutions right.Correct. The correct statement is that all progressive revolutions are right, ergo the fact that they are drenched in blood is irrelevant. The worker's state is the most progressive of all ideals, therefore all the blood shed in its processes is irrelevant. The Worker's State is not progress if there is no freedom. The only true progress is the progression of freedom and civil liberties. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
SteveThaiBinh Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 The only reason North Korea hasn't collapsed under the weight of its own corrupt, incompetent brutality is because the Chinese are propping it up. I'm not sure if that's an act of kindness or of cruelty. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov)
Killian Kalthorne Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Neither. It is an act of "tee hee." "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
lord of flies Posted August 20, 2009 Author Posted August 20, 2009 The only reason North Korea hasn't collapsed under the weight of its own corrupt, incompetent brutality is because the Chinese are propping it up.I already explained that North Korea is only on the verge of the collapse because of the collusion of a number of factors and that up until the 60s it was ahead of South Korea economically, and even after that was capable of offering them aid in September 1984. Those factors are namely, a famine, the cascading economic and social collapse following the demise of the USSR and economic isolation. Assuming for a moment that it has a "corrupt, incompetent brutality," the precise opposite would be true: the corrupt incompetent brutality being caused by it being on the verge of collapse. If you're not even going to read the OP, I don't know why you'd post in the thread.
Humodour Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 The only reason North Korea hasn't collapsed under the weight of its own corrupt, incompetent brutality is because the Chinese are propping it up. I'm not sure if that's an act of kindness or of cruelty. It's an act of cruelty that serves to divert some attention away from China itself. For the same reason, the Chinese are supporting the brutal military dictatorship in Burma.
Meshugger Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 I also explained a major cause for emigration, which is the famine and economic collapse following the demise of the Soviet Union (one of the greatest tragedies in modern history). Hahahahah.............Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahhaha Your trolling techniques are becoming better by the day. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Meshugger Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Planned economy over free economy! Collectivism over individuality! Indoctrination over freedom of thought! Suppression over freedom of speech! Propaganda over freedom of expression! You are free to do as we tell you to! Did i miss something? Sure sounds like wonderful tenets for a civilized and modern society. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Walsingham Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 I think I speak for many of us when I cordially invite you to move to North Korea. In fact if I believed you'd do it I'd actually chip in 100 pounds for the giggles alone. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Guard Dog Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 I think I speak for many of us when I cordially invite you to move to North Korea. In fact if I believed you'd do it I'd actually chip in 100 pounds for the giggles alone. I'm in for $100 This thread did not merit the effort you guys have invested in the responses you've written. This guys is just trying to get a rise out of you. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Humodour Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Hell, I make $200 a day, why not. I'll also chip in $100. How much does it cost to fly there anyway? I imagine it'd be pretty expensive since you'd probably need to hire a private jet and a pilot good enough to avoid being shot down.
Purkake Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 I also explained a major cause for emigration, which is the famine and economic collapse following the demise of the Soviet Union (one of the greatest tragedies in modern history). Hahahahah.............Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahhaha Your trolling techniques are becoming better by the day. More innocent people died under the Soviet Union's rule than under Hitler's Germany.
HoonDing Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 More innocent people died under the Soviet Union's rule than under Hitler's Germany. Leave Nikita alone! The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Laozi Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 It's an act of cruelty that serves to divert some attention away from China itself. For the same reason, the Chinese are supporting the brutal military dictatorship in Burma. Well, all that oil can't hurt either People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair.
lord of flies Posted August 20, 2009 Author Posted August 20, 2009 Hahahahah.............Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahhaha Your trolling techniques are becoming better by the day. The end of the Soviet Union saw a cascading collapse, ruining tons of peoples lives: the demise of Yugoslavia into civil war, sometimes nonsensical country borders (Belarus is not part of Russia), the creation of "independent" central Asian states that have virtually no arable land because their borders were drawn on the assumption that they would always be part of the USSR, the economic collapse of North Korea, the sudden resurgence of ethnic infighting in the Balkans. But I guess it's a "good thing" Russia's democratic now, right? Oh wait, it isn't, and the people there still have a worse standard of living.
Oblarg Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 One thing that has always bugged me: I fail to see why democratic communism is an unworkable concept. Communism is an economic system, democracy is a governmental one. Why do people always conflate communism with dictatorship? "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies
lord of flies Posted August 20, 2009 Author Posted August 20, 2009 One thing that has always bugged me: I fail to see why democratic communism is an unworkable concept. Communism is an economic system, democracy is a governmental one. Why do people always conflate communism with dictatorship? Because a false equivalency allows them to cling to the idiocy and failure that is capitalism.
Purkake Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 One thing that has always bugged me: I fail to see why democratic communism is an unworkable concept. Because no one has made it work? I don't even know if anyone has tried.
Humodour Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 One thing that has always bugged me: I fail to see why democratic communism is an unworkable concept. Communism is an economic system, democracy is a governmental one. Why do people always conflate communism with dictatorship? Because in practice, all communist regimes have been totalitarian. And to be honest, I think what you're aiming for is socialist democracy which, while not unworkable, teetters far too close to totalitarian for my liking, because the government has so much raw power.
lord of flies Posted August 20, 2009 Author Posted August 20, 2009 Because in practice, all communist regimes have been totalitarian. And to be honest, I think what you're aiming for is socialist democracy which, while not unworkable, teetters far too close to totalitarian for my liking, because the government has so much raw power. A bloo bloo bloo, my accountable politicians have more power than my terrorist-thug rich pseudo-aristocracy. Totalitarianism!!! Cuba is a functional democracy, anyway, even if it has no parties. However, since parties are the most incredibly dumb and idiotic extension of the political class, I don't care.
Meshugger Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Cuba is a functional democracy Cuba is a functional democracy Cuba is a functional democracy Cuba is a functional democracy Cuba is a functional democracy Cuba is a functional democracy l0llip0p! Yes, filled democratic institutions and traditions, ready to blossom like spring flowers. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Humodour Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 accountable politicians What happens when the politicians realise they don't need to be accountable if they just, say, close down that television studio, or order the disappearence of that journalist?
Humodour Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 He's actually pretty hilarious once you realise he's a troll, but troll or not, some interesting things get brought up in his absurd threads that are worthy of some mental enquiry.
alanschu Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 Cuba is a functional democracy Cuba is a functional democracy Cuba is a functional democracy Cuba is a functional democracy Cuba is a functional democracy Cuba is a functional democracy l0llip0p! Yes, filled democratic institutions and traditions, ready to blossom like spring flowers. ROFL I snort laughed when I saw that.
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