Guard Dog Posted October 18, 2009 Posted October 18, 2009 Stinkin Bucs. I'm too frustrated to even rant. It just sucks. Volo, I think you might be in trouble. I count eight wrong just as things stand now. So far Enoch is looking like the winner this week. Wow, what a finish to the Vikes Ravens game. And I think it's safe to say the Saints are for real. Can you believe I actually watched a UFL game from start to finish? Yep, I watched the delay broadcast of the Redwoods/Sentinels game at 2 this morning. Sloppy, sloppy game play and very ugly uniforms. But is was intersting and there were a lot of "so thats where that guy ended up" moments. I doesn't make sense though, this league was supposed to be in underserved markets like Orlando and Las Vegas. Why the heck did they put teams in San Fransisco and New York, two markets with four NFL teams each? Sacramento and Memphis would have made more sense. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Hurlshort Posted October 18, 2009 Posted October 18, 2009 Does Sacramento have a Stadium? I'm guessing it comes down to costs and market research. But it will still probably collapse. XFL part two!
Guard Dog Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Does Sacramento have a Stadium? I'm guessing it comes down to costs and market research. But it will still probably collapse. XFL part two! Dunno about Sacramento, I just threw that out there as a city likely to support a team with no other pro sport. As for the UFLs long term prospects, who knows. I think it can succeed if it does five things: 1. Do not antangonize the NFL. Do not go after NFL advertisers, compete with the NFL for broadcast time, aggesively pursue NFL free agents. They can not help but lose. The NFL casts off legions of players every year, those are the ones you build your teams with. 2. Do not exepect or plan on TV revenue in your business model, focus on attendance and local marketing (local indepedent broadcasts coupled with cable deals with a network like VS or Fox Sports. Offer games for free (with commercials) on the internet until the brand grows. Radio (including satellite/internet radio) is a must as well. 3. Keep control over your franchises and their business models. Let the league own the teams because an owners interests are not always the leagues interests. This will also keep salaries under control (that is what killed the Arena League). 4. Stay within your scope while you grow your brand. They should be locating in midsize cities that have no other pro sports like Memphis, Birmingham, Oklahoma City, etc. they should target cities with a fair standard of living and basic necessities are not too expensive. Not San Fransisco where everything is expensive and if you do have money for a game, you are going to see the 49ers or Raiders. Keep the tickets cheap and make deals for families and activities for kids and for Gods sake, outreach, outreach outreach. Get the team and players out in the community, sponsor little leagues, charity drives etc. Make the team part of the community. Minor League baseball does this very well. 5. Respect the game and your brand. The XFL wanted to be NFL meets Pro Wrestling. The result was an utter abortion. Basicly follow the AFL model from the 60's and 70's. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Hurlshort Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 I agree with all those. There is definitely room for development leagues in football, it seems like Canada and Europe have done well enough. I guess time will tell.
Volourn Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 CFL is a joke. Espicially considering the fact that the NFL is actually more popular here. CFL should have been buried years ago. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Gfted1 Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 Thank god Dallas was on its bye week, the NFCE took a beating yesterday. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Guard Dog Posted October 19, 2009 Posted October 19, 2009 I agree with all those. There is definitely room for development leagues in football, it seems like Canada and Europe have done well enough. I guess time will tell. Actually after browsing their website it looks like the UFL is actually doing 3.5 of the five things I suggested. The best part is the free game video on the internet. I always thought it was low class by the NFL charging what the do for that. MLB too. www.getufl.com "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Volourn Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 "I always thought it was low class by the NFL charging what the do for that. MLB too." Low class is expecting everything to be free, and handed to you. These ar ebusiness. They are supposed to be making money. That's how they keep in business. NFL didn't get to be a big shot by giving freebies to selfish, greedy, arrogant customers who think they should get entertainment for free, and have NFL pay for it. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Guard Dog Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 "I always thought it was low class by the NFL charging what the do for that. MLB too." Low class is expecting everything to be free, and handed to you. These ar ebusiness. They are supposed to be making money. That's how they keep in business. NFL didn't get to be a big shot by giving freebies to selfish, greedy, arrogant customers who think they should get entertainment for free, and have NFL pay for it. I don't expect it to be free but $50 for streaming audio via the internet especially when it's not live is a little unreasonable. It's even more for the MLB audio. It is not delayed at least. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 This weeks results: Kelverin: 8-6 Enoch: 8-6 GD: 8-6 Volo: 3-11 (ouch) Season Standings GD: 60-30 Volo: 60-30 Kelverin: 57-33 Enoch: 54-36 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Enoch Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 The NFL doesn't do streaming online video because their contracts with the TV networks won't let them.
Volourn Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 "Volo: 3-11 (ouch)" DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Guard Dog Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 One thing is for sure, the season race between the four of us got tight pretty quick. Volo had a big lead and it vanished in one week. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted October 20, 2009 Posted October 20, 2009 The NFL doesn't do streaming online video because their contracts with the TV networks won't let them. And I believe their deal with Siruis is why they have a delay on internet audio. At least I can't imagine any other reason. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Volourn Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 I must ahve been drunk when making my predictions this week... L0L DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Kelverin Posted October 21, 2009 Author Posted October 21, 2009 Week 7 Sunday, October 25 early games * Green Bay (3-2, win) at Cleveland (1-5, loss) * San Diego (2-3, 2 loss) at Kansas City (1-5, win) * Indianapolis (5-0, bye) at St. Louis (0-6) * Minnesota (6-0) at Pittsburgh (4-2, 3 win) * New England (4-2, win) at Tampa Bay (0-6) * SF 49ers (3-2, loss, bye) at Houston (3-3, win) Sunday, October 25 late games * Buffalo (2-4, win) at Carolina (2-3, 2 win) * NY Jets (3-3, 3 loss) at Oakland (2-4, win) * Atlanta (4-1, 2 win) at Dallas (3-2, win, bye) * Chicago (3-2, loss) at Cincinnati (4-2, loss) * New Orleans (5-0) at Miami (2-3, 2 win, bye) * Arizona (3-2, 2 win) at NY Giants (5-1, loss) Monday, October 26 * Philadelphia (3-2, loss) at Washington (2-4, 2 loss) Bye week: Denver, Detroit, Tennessee, Seattle, Jacksonville, Baltimore J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Volourn Posted October 23, 2009 Posted October 23, 2009 Week 7 Green Bay at Cleveland: GB San Diego at Kansas City: SD Indianapolis at St. Louis: INDY Minnesota at Pittsburgh: .... .... ..... .... ... MIN New England at Tampa Bay: NE SF 49ers at Houston: SF Buffalo at Carolina: CAR NY Jets at Oakland: NYJ Atlanta at Dallas: DAL Chicago at Cincinnati: CHI New Orleans at Miami: NO Arizona at NY Giants: NYG Philadelphia at Washington: PHI DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Guard Dog Posted October 24, 2009 Posted October 24, 2009 Green Bay at Cleveland: Packers have a lot of question marks, Brown have a hell of a lot more. Packers win San Diego at Kansas City: Weather will be a factor. Chiefs win. Indianapolis at St. Louis: An unusually long scrimmage for Indy today. Colts win Minnesota at Pittsburgh: Once again weather will be a factor. Big Ben will be a bigger factor. Steelers win. New England at Tampa Bay: Hey Coach Morris, what is this hand basket we're in and where are we going? Pats win. SF 49ers at Houston: This game will come down to QBs, and Schaub is better. Texans win close Buffalo at Carolina: This one could go either way but Carolinas O is better and the Bills D. Panthers win NY Jets at Oakland: If the Jets lose this one they had better stay in Oakland, a lynch mob will be waiting at JFK. Jets win Atlanta at Dallas: Cowboys are a paper tiger. Falcons win. Chicago at Cincinnati: Cincy screwed me last week but I'll give them another chance. Begals win. New Orleans at Miami: Only a real gambler would vote against the Saints right now. So I'm a gambler! Dolphins win! Arizona at NY Giants: If this were in Tempe I might go the other way. In New Jersey the Cards are dead. Giants win. Philadelphia at Washington: Go Redskins. Eagles win. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Enoch Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 Green Bay at Cleveland: GB San Diego at Kansas City: SD Indianapolis at St. Louis: IND Minnesota at Pittsburgh: MIN New England at Tampa Bay: NE SF 49ers at Houston: HOU Buffalo at Carolina: CAR NY Jets at Oakland: NYJ Atlanta at Dallas: ATL Chicago at Cincinnati: CHI New Orleans at Miami: NO Arizona at NY Giants: NYG Philadelphia at Washington: PHI
Kelverin Posted October 25, 2009 Author Posted October 25, 2009 Green Bay at Cleveland: GB San Diego at Kansas City: SD Indianapolis at St. Louis: INDY Minnesota at Pittsburgh: Pittsburgh New England at Tampa Bay: NE SF 49ers at Houston: Houston Buffalo at Carolina: CAR NY Jets at Oakland: Oakland Atlanta at Dallas: DAL Chicago at Cincinnati: Cincinnati New Orleans at Miami: Miami Arizona at NY Giants: NYG Philadelphia at Washington: PHI J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Guard Dog Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 This weeks results: Kelverin: 10-3 Volo: 10-3 Enoch: 8-5 GD: 8-5 Season Standings: Volo: 70-33 GD: 68-35 Kelverin: 67-36 Enoch: 62-41 Volo is alone in front again. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Volourn Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 I'm just happy to rebound from that disasterous week, I had. That was hideous. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Kelverin Posted October 28, 2009 Author Posted October 28, 2009 Sunday, November 1 early games * Houston (4-3, 2 win) at Buffalo (3-4, 2 win) * Cleveland (1-6, 2 loss) at Chicago (3-3, 2 loss) * Seattle (2-4, loss, bye) at Dallas (4-2, 2 win) * St. Louis (0-7) at Detroit (1-5, 3 loss, bye) * Denver (6-0, bye) at Baltimore (3-3, 3 loss, bye) * SF 49ers (3-3, 2 loss) at Indianapolis (6-0) * Miami (2-4, loss) at NY Jets (4-3, win) * NY Giants (5-2, 2 loss) at Philadelphia (4-2, win) Sunday, November 1 late games * Jacksonville (3-3, win, bye) at Tennessee (0-6, bye) * Oakland (2-5, loss) at San Diego (3-3, win) * Carolina (2-4, loss) at Arizona (4-2, 3 win) * Minnesota (6-1, loss) at Green Bay (4-2, 2 win) Monday, November 2 * Atlanta (4-2, loss) at New Orleans (6-0) Bye week: Cincinnati, Kansas City, New England, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Washington J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Kelverin Posted October 30, 2009 Author Posted October 30, 2009 Buffalo Chicago - Which Cutler shows up today? The good one, which has more to do with the competition than anything else. Dallas - The home team is over rated as is their division but the seahawks are to banged up to provide much competition. Detroit Bmore - broncos lose for the first time this year Indianapolis Miami - I should pick the Jets, but I'll take the healthier squad NY Giants - Can't see the gmen losing 3 in a row Jacksonville - Still not picking Tenn until they win San Diego - We are going to rough this team up. Arizona Minnesota - Old man tears it up and wins it, although it will have more to do with Adrian and the fierce pass rush than #4 New Orleans - rolls at home. J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Volourn Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 HOU at BUF: BUF CLE at CHI: CHI SEA at DAL: DAL DEN at BAL: BAL SF at INDY: INDY MIA at NYJ: NYJ NYG at PHI: NYG JAX at TEN: TEN OAK at SD: SF CAR at ARI: ARI MIN at GB: MIN AT at NO: NO DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
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