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Ok I mentioned in the other thread that I was holding off for that Penryn Q9540, but I might hold off again after reading about this

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/2..._This_Year.html

 

Imagine you can get a SkullTrail Mobo and put two of those in for a 12-core system!!!

 

Then again it's going to be expensive as hell, so I might just get the Q9540 along with an nForce 790i Ultra


 

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I thought Intel was releasing their Octacore systems later this year? Or am I too far ahead?

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Is this new 6 core nehalem going to be compatible with the mobos that support 1333FSB? I think the highest my motherboard will support so far are the new Yorkdales 1333FSB quad core 45nm cpus. that might be the nail in the coffin upgrade for my 965P mobo. whats the last CPU your mobo will support bok?

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According to Wikipedia, "Nehalem" quad- and octacore will be released late this year. It doesnt say which socket or chipset it will use, but its likely that you'll need a completely new mobo to support it.

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According to Wikipedia, "Nehalem" quad- and octacore will be released late this year. It doesnt say which socket or chipset it will use, but its likely that you'll need a completely new mobo to support it.

The only things I've been able to dig up so far is this:

 

http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/540

 

715, 1160 & 1366 sockets if I understood the the analysis correctly.

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Since this is a CPU thread, which of these is better the Core 2 Duo E6850 or the Core 2 Quad Q6600? There both near the same price, in my price range but the E6850 cost a little more than the Quad.

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Don't buy the e6850, because there's the e8400 now (same clockspeed, but newer generation, more cache, thus faster), and that is even cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115037.

Buying a quad or a dual core... I'd say for todays games the c2d8400 is faster than the c2q6600, but I don't know what the future brings :) Probably there's a Quad-Core user here that can share some experience :p

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I would choose the Core 2 Duo, as even the extremely low Ghz module in my laptop can handle Half Life 2: Episode Two at almost full specs and a thirty-two person game of Team Fortress Two.

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No, you wouldnt. Clockspeed is a very inaccurate way to measure speed since what a CPU actually accomplishes during a clock cycle varies considerably. A single 2gHz C2D core is faster than a P4 3gHz. You could measure CPU power in FLOPS, but thats not accurate either since far from every process is about grinding floating point calculations.

 

 

The best thing is to go to Tom's Hardware or similar and look at the benchmarking charts. If you want a gaming CPU, look at how it performs in gaming

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I am by no means a computing wonk, but I also suspect that moving from a 3GHz P4 to a 2GHz C2D Core would result in a performance hit for applications using only a single core. My reasoning is that the P4 has a poweful single core architecture optimized for single core applications (it's problem was heat, not speed) and on top of that has a 50% higher clock speed (assuming the above numbers). Besides, C2D Core must have some kind of 'sorter' on the input side (and indeed a 'joiner' on the output side) that splits instructions among the two cores. When one of the cores is inactive, instructions must still pass through it, but it only acts as overhead, as do other processes/controllers/instruction sets that are there for multi-core processing.

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stop da presses! I think I'll get the e8400. It's a dual core but can be oc'd to 4ghz+

I was just reading about that. They had it at 4.1GHz.

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I know it can't support anything Penryn

Hmm so all motherboards that support penryn Im talking about (975,965,Missing one in this spot... fill in the blank, 38X, 48X) will be set for Yorkfields, and thats about the last generation of cpus that will be compatible, correct, or no?

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Well, Ive ben looking at TH's charts and if you compare the vanilla C2D "conroe" E6600 which is 2,4gHz to a Pentium 4 E "prescott" 3gHz

 

 

C2D: 106

Pntium4: 49.8

 

 

Twice as fast and that is with the C2D using only a single core, as Quake4 does not support multithreading. Intel made one hell of a performance leap with the C2D

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Well, Ive ben looking at TH's charts and if you compare the vanilla C2D "conroe" E6600 which is 2,4gHz to a Pentium 4 E "prescott" 3gHz

 

 

C2D: 106

Pntium4: 49.8

 

 

Twice as fast and that is with the C2D using only a single core, as Quake4 does not support multithreading. Intel made one hell of a performance leap with the C2D

 

That's interesting. I would suspect that Quake 4 is using one core and the other core runs the various backround processes of the operating system. Otherwise, I simply cannot explain it. The performance gap you show is huge.

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The P4 was just a waste. It was slower (at the same clockspeed) than its predecessor pIII. It used more power. The Athlons easily let it bite the dust (?), having a significantly higher IPC. The Core2 architecture has an IPC (instructions per cycle) higher than the A64, making it absolutely superior to the P4. If it really is a 50% increase in performance is doubtable, but certainly not impossible in certain scenarios. Quake 4 actually does support multithreading, so it's not an ideal basis for comparing a single core P4 to a C2D. Take a Pentium D, for example, to compare it to a C2D.

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