I wonder what 'octurian poontang' refers to, I mean, they could be human, but lets not sell ourselves short. I mean, tentacle pron

I wonder what 'octurian poontang' refers to, I mean, they could be human, but lets not sell ourselves short. I mean, tentacle pron

 

Got a thing for Twi'leks I imagine?

But of course.

If you check the briefing scene on Aliens, they talk about how the mission is going to be "another bughunt." It would seem to hint that these marine units are occasionally called to handle hostile indigenous life on colony planets. In early stages the player could be made to fight these as the 'weaker aliens,' possibly establishing the character's role as a 'bug stomper.' Fighting other humans always works too, of course. First true Alien should appear somewhere around midgame and be a pretty momentous event. That's what I think.

 

agreed.

I think the situation of how the aliens are presented can give a solid amount of variation to gameplay. For instance, a hospital ward with the power out and your *hear* aliens popping from people's chests and you see them scamper about . . . Another example might be rogue human factors, psycho andriods ordered to kill all potential hosts, things like that . . . Heck, there might be a mission where you need to stop a military human facility from nuking another site and to save all those innocent lives you need to do the unthinkable . . . infest the place with aliens and give the military kooks their own medicine . . .

 

 

I want a bull alien dangit! Horns I say!

If you check the briefing scene on Aliens, they talk about how the mission is going to be "another bughunt." It would seem to hint that these marine units are occasionally called to handle hostile indigenous life on colony planets. In early stages the player could be made to fight these as the 'weaker aliens,' possibly establishing the character's role as a 'bug stomper.' Fighting other humans always works too, of course. First true Alien should appear somewhere around midgame and be a pretty momentous event. That's what I think.

 

This is probably true.

If it's not true, it's still convenient. And that's just as good.

 

Right?

If it's not true, it's still convenient. And that's just as good.

 

I am afraid this statement leaves me befuddled.

If they are doing an Aliens-based CRPG, it would be foolish not to include a Predator component, considering that the only place the Aliens franchise has gone lately is into all the "AvP" movies, including the one that's out now.

 

I think a lot of people would enjoy the option of playing a Predator hunting aliens or humans, an Alien hunting Predators or humans, or a human possibly making short-term alliances with either while fighting both.

 

The recent AvP film gives the Predators a bunch of new toys (as if the ones they didn't have already, especially the "unstoppable frisbee of death" weren't pretty cool.)

 

However ... all the AvP films are set in the present, with the humans only able to fight back with modern weapons ... it would be interesting to keep the CRPG set in the future (?) where humans already have space travel, laser weapons, exoskeletons (come on everybody wants to be Ripley in her robot exoskeleton kicking alien *ss) and other high tech stuff.

 

BTW, on the perspective question, it seems almost wrong not to do a CRPG of this type without the first person perspective ... of being a Predator or Alien closing in on your prey, or feeling the palpable terror of a human knowing one or the other is closing in on them (although like recent games it could also have a tactical mode where you switch out of 1st person view).

 

One other element ... since the final Aliens movie (set in the future) discussed the possibility of genetically modified Aliens, including alien-human hybrids, I think they should make an appearance too.

"If they are doing an Aliens-based CRPG, it would be foolish not to include a Predator component, considering that the only place the Aliens franchise has gone lately is into all the "AvP" movies, including the one that's out now."

 

SEGA and therefore Obsidian doesn't have Predator license. No preds for you.

 

 

I'm just happy with it. Stupid crossovers.

Edited January 19, 200818 yr by Xard

SEGA and therefore Obsidian doesn't have Predator license. No preds for you.

 

Who owns the "AvP" IP and couldn't they license that as well?

 

Again, to do a strict "A" game considering that "AvP" is the main focus these days in cinema and arcade games would be silly.

 

Seems to me there's already been a few "AvP" FPSes.

The cost of AvP's license back then I suspect should be greatly different than what it is now.

 

Simply because of the the popularity I guess and back then, it was mainly more of an experiment than a mainstream license.

 

Regardless, it is a fact that SEGA and Obsidian only has the Alien license, not the predator license. Presently it is not known who even owns the AvP license to make games at all with the last game created for PSP with the game basing on the second AvP movie.

 

Besides, they screwed the AvP franchise by using the present timeline instead of the Aliens timeline.

Edited January 21, 200818 yr by Zoma

SEGA and therefore Obsidian doesn't have Predator license. No preds for you.

 

Who owns the "AvP" IP and couldn't they license that as well?

 

Again, to do a strict "A" game considering that "AvP" is the main focus these days in cinema and arcade games would be silly.

 

Seems to me there's already been a few "AvP" FPSes.

 

Can you honestly compare AvP movies to awesomeness of Alien and Aliens? No? That's what I thought.

 

 

Crossovers rarely do anything good for setting.

Can you honestly compare AvP movies to awesomeness of Alien and Aliens? No? That's what I thought.

 

 

Crossovers rarely do anything good for setting.

If the movies were all there was to it, this would be the end of discussion, but they are not. The original comic was awesome. The games were pretty good. These franchises fit together very well, but it takes some skill to do it properly. The movies screwed it in many ways, though the more recent one is decent entertainment at least.

 

I'm not saying that this game should have preds in it, though. Maybe a hint, but no more than that. Something about a more recent species than Giants that has been spreading the xenomorphs across the stars, perhaps. Focus on the Aliens.

Crossovers rarely do anything good for setting.

It's somewhat of a moot point since Obsidian's license only covers Aliens. However, it's a point I want to make out nontheless. AvP's original incarnations and the games based on it are fantastic and bring a whole heck of a lot to the setting.

 

Just because the hack of a director Anderson got involved and was followed up by a special effects/music video brother duo does not mean jack about the potential of AvP. That's like saying that since Alien 3 and Alien 4 sucked, that any Alien movies or games must therefore also suck.

Edited January 21, 200818 yr by Tale

While the movies were awful, it's not like the directors had to try real hard to make them suck. As I've said before, AvP is synergy in the grand Godzilla v King Kong tradition. The natural inclination is to have them simplemindedly slug at each other. There's not much else you can say they ought to do. In such a case where you would combine two things the quality of the finished product is usually closer to that of the lesser part, such as with AvP. It's decidedly more Predator than Aliens. The first game was fun, but that was because the predator was an end boss and both the marine and alien campaigns could be played as straight Aliens games until that point. The second game was a slam-bang action game in the Predator movie mold. The comics were comics, and were of variable quality.

 

If anything, the success of the AvP franchise reinforces the notion that the two respective parts can't stand on their own.

Edited January 21, 200818 yr by Pop

While the movies were awful, it's not like the directors had to try real hard to make them suck.

It's not like movies avoid sucking naturally. It takes a good director and producer to make any movie not suck.

Edited January 21, 200818 yr by Tale

Cross overs can be a great thing if done right.

 

Heck, if I am to use something that is over the top, the long running game series of Super Robot War is a proof itself. Some anime titles involved in the game are a piece of poo by itself but when done right with their story interweaved together with other titles, it can be such an awesome thing.

 

Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden is such example and generally acknowledged by everyone that it has a pretty kick-ass story for a mish mash story game of 20+ anime titles.

While the movies were awful, it's not like the directors had to try real hard to make them suck.

It's not like movies avoid sucking naturally. It takes a good director and producer to make any movie not suck.

The best way to judge the potential of a movie is by its screenplay.

 

AvP was written by Paul W.S. Anderson.

 

They didn't have to try real hard.

Can you honestly compare AvP movies to awesomeness of Alien and Aliens? No? That's what I thought.

 

 

Crossovers rarely do anything good for setting.

If the movies were all there was to it, this would be the end of discussion, but they are not. The original comic was awesome. The games were pretty good. These franchises fit together very well, but it takes some skill to do it properly. The movies screwed it in many ways, though the more recent one is decent entertainment at least.

 

I'm not saying that this game should have preds in it, though. Maybe a hint, but no more than that. Something about a more recent species than Giants that has been spreading the xenomorphs across the stars, perhaps. Focus on the Aliens.

 

My point would be, make it open-ended. I'm not saying call this game "Aliens vs. Predators RPG". Instead, it should indeed be an Aliens RPG, with that being the main focus. All I'm saying is there are going to be people who within that framework want to add "AvP" flavored missions/modules/whatever, so if they can get the IP, why not at least give some info, stats, backstory, and whatever for ppl. who want to incorporate such.

 

Again, MHO, even if nothing "official" is released of that type, people will make mods to incorporate it anyway.

You know what would be totally awesome? If I could team up with a Predator and a Terminator and Robocop. And possibly also Zool, Ninja from the Nth Dimension. Sure, it's not everyones cup of tea but you don't need to make Zool the focus of the game or anything. I think it's rad and I'm sure there are dozens more like me. Please set about getting the appropriate IP please Obs/Sega. Thanks.

I think it'd be terrible if Wolverine ever crossed over from Hulk into the X-Men. And if Batman and Superman ever met? DC Comics would be finished!

Seriously though, I don't have any sort of problem with Aliens mixing with Predators, or crossovers of any type. I even paid cash money to see AVP:R. Obs/Sega don't have the Pred IP however, and that some people might like Predators in their Aliens RPG isn't a reason for them to pursue it.

 

Except Batman. Batman should most definitely should be in the game.

I read a Batman vs Predator comic before, and I can't remember which one if there is more than one.

 

It isn't bad at all I thought. It was awesome in fact.

You know what would be totally awesome? If I could team up with a Predator and a Terminator and Robocop. And possibly also Zool, Ninja from the Nth Dimension. Sure, it's not everyones cup of tea but you don't need to make Zool the focus of the game or anything. I think it's rad and I'm sure there are dozens more like me. Please set about getting the appropriate IP please Obs/Sega. Thanks.

 

I only will go for this idea if Ash, from the Army of Darkness, gets to fight all of them at once.