Volourn Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/816/816533p1.html For 'just' an Action RPG that people accuse of being nothing more than a glorified 'shooter'; it has it's shae of role-playing ideas like how characetr abckground actually influences others' reactions to you, and how the player can shape the story. Great read. Coolio beanios. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 (edited) *yawn* Boring read, nothing new. I knew about the facial generator before, and how it works. This seems just to be a gimmick to me. Let's better wait how well ME pulls of the choice/consequences part. Edited August 29, 2007 by Morgoth Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 Did you read it? ME's characetr creation is more than face gen. It has backgrounds ( two different choices) which effect how others interatc with you. True, it's one thing to read ana rticle about it's 'rpgness' than to see it in action. The point is ME is not just about combat. Not even close. What will your background(s) be? I'll be an 'Earthborn War hero'. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 Uh whatever. A PC version would be nice for a start before I get too deeply into background talk. Is there also a background choice for "sick dirty space-bastard"? Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 L0L Not quite; but you probably can act like one... Your BG choices consist of 1 of the following: spacer, colonist, or earthborn and soul survivor, ruthless, or war hero For you, you'd likely choose 'ruthless spacer'. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) Three backgrounds? And three 'psych' backgrounds that don't even make sense, I mean in the way that they've been picked. Why not 'sheltered officer boy', or 'the brigade punching bag', etc? Surely 'ruthless' applies to everyone, too. I mean, they sound well done and I think you will see them pop up throughout the game, which is good; looking forward to that. But it's really asking for a bit more variation. Not Arcanum's 30, since you can't really make 30 things pop up in dialogue later, but 6 or 7? Why not that? Also, the bit about female Shepard not being a caricature will strike fire with Sand and the other "I wanna create my own character" people. Personally I have nothing against premade characters, but the personality of the female they describe is so ridiculously a caricature. Edited August 30, 2007 by Tigranes Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) Heh. Well, I presume how you play your character (female or otherwise) will be up to you 9wityhin the limits of the choices of course). Sand can play his own character in ME. He's not forced to play a certain way. And, while more BG chocies are always nice; BIO probably went with this smaller number so they cna be used mor eoften. Probably why DA only has a handful of backgrounds as well (but, of course, DA's BGs all come with their very own prologue *and* potential nemesis, IIRC). Edited August 30, 2007 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Sand can play his own character in ME. He's not forced to play a certain way. Well, yeah, but is that gonna stop him complaining? I understand the logic but I think 3 is *too* small. For that number, it better have a huge and real impact responses to the PC unlike anything we've seen before. Which would be very nice. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) Sand can play his own character in ME. He's not forced to play a certain way. Well, yeah, but is that gonna stop him complaining? I understand the logic but I think 3 is *too* small. For that number, it better have a huge and real impact responses to the PC unlike anything we've seen before. Which would be very nice. Somehow I doubt that, since most NPCs wouldn't really care what his background is, they'd be caught up in how the PC is currently "first human (space cop whatever)" I'm expecting the background to be just like NWN2's - only really relevant to stats and to what NPCs say at the very beginning of the game. Edited August 30, 2007 by Pop Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deraldin Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Sand can play his own character in ME. He's not forced to play a certain way. Well, yeah, but is that gonna stop him complaining? I understand the logic but I think 3 is *too* small. For that number, it better have a huge and real impact responses to the PC unlike anything we've seen before. Which would be very nice. Somehow I doubt that, since most NPCs wouldn't really care what his background is, they'd be caught up in how the PC is currently "first human (space cop whatever)" I'm expecting the background to be just like NWN2's - only really relevant to stats and to what NPCs say at the very beginning of the game. Spectre. Cops who don't have to abide by the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEME! "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 only really relevant to stats and to what NPCs say at the very beginning of the game. In which case, 3 is just mindnumbingly stupid. We shall see. Spectre. Cops who don't have to abide by the rules. What. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) Sand can play his own character in ME. If its not on PC I can't. Beyond that its sounds cool, but only 3? I wouldn't mind if we had more choices, like 10 maybe. Edited August 30, 2007 by Sand Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deraldin Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 Spectre. Cops who don't have to abide by the rules.What. The space cop people. They are called Spectres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) To bad you can't pick your own name otherwise you can be... SPECTRE GADGET! GO GO GADGET DEATH STAR! Edited August 30, 2007 by Sand Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 30, 2007 Author Share Posted August 30, 2007 "Well, yeah, but is that gonna stop him complaining?" You win. That said, where is everyone getting this 'only 3' thing from? It's 2 seperate choices of background stuff so you have variant background combo checks. And, I'm sure it's used more than just at the start of the game. It's supposed to effect certain quests, too. You can choose your first name. P.S. Sand, xbox 360's price has lowered so buy it. You know you want to. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 P.S. Sand, xbox 360's price has lowered so buy it. You know you want to. Nah. If the Premium or Elite edition of the console was a $100 or less I would consider it but its not and I am not going spend several hundreds of dollars for one game. When it comes to the PC, if it comes to the PC, I will most certainly will get it. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted August 30, 2007 Share Posted August 30, 2007 It's 2 seperate choices of background stuff so you have variant background combo checks. Yeah, 3 general + 3 psych. It's still very, very small. Now, for that number, I expect to see, throughout the game, substantial NPC responses and recognisance of not only your backgrounds but also them in combination, and there be some juicy consequences to your background, i.e. lots of NPC prejudice. And if that happens, the system would be very successful and I'd be very happy to see it there - it would represent new ground of a sort being broken, as well. However, if the 3+3 backgrounds don't really have more impact than we've seen in previous games, then it would be sorely lacking. So I'm not making any presumptions Volo, just saying that for 3+3 number, I expect and hope to see some extensive interaction / response. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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