The Return of the son of The Comic Thread

[Kaftan Barlast]

 

 

Though I normally leave DC Comics to be read by the 12yearolds that have always been their target demographic, I did pick up Alex Ross Justice a while ago because he is wickedly skilled.

 

But when I got into this, I was faced with a Justice League that must have grown completely incompetent since the last time I read about them in the 80's. Wonder Woman gets the **** kicked out of her by some weird chick in a leopard suit, Superman is defeated by a clone and a zombie and Hawkgirl is blown to smithereens by toy spitfires. I dont know anything about hawkgirl, but someone like wonderwoman who can throw tanks like snowballs does not loose a catfight to a... catwoman. And Superman can survive a direct impact by a nuke, but he cant take a few punches from a zombie?! What the hell is going on!

[Rosbjerg]

perhaps they realized how boring the cartoons were when the heroes had no adversaries who could beat them.

[Gorgon]

Thats one impressive package on green ring guy.

 

Anywho, superheroes are usually, usually, boring, but comics is so much more than superhero stuff fortunately. I just started reading Jeff Smith's Bone from end to end now that I have them all.

Edited August 24, 2007 by Gorgon

[Tigranes]

Bone is fantastic. We have some of it in our local library but I could never get a hold of it properly, being in NZ.

[Gfted1]

So is that an example of the new direction in artwork I read you guys talking about? Not bad, although JLU is my personal favorite. Oh, and Ill take my heroes invincible. At least the ones that should be.

[Tale]

Only thing I've ever read from DC that was worth it was Kingdom Come. And Kingdom Come still qualifies as the greatest comic serial I've ever read.

 

I preferred Marvel back when I read, so I was quite dissapointed when Marvel's Kingdom Come counterpart Earth X turned out so boring. What happened with some of the characters was great, but the plot of the serial was lame.

Edited August 24, 2007 by Tale

[Kaftan Barlast]

Alex Ross did a book for Marvel called "marvels" back in the mid-ninties. It doesnt really have a plot per se, but sums up the history of the evolution of superpowered people in the marvel universe seen through the eyes of a journalist. The art is top notch though.

[kirottu]

I remember this topic. This is where we talk about manga, right?

[Jora]

I recently bought a comic book adaptation of Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser. It's a collection of short stories set in the fantasy world of Newhon, drawn by the Hellboy artist Mike Mignola. The characters Fafhrd and Mouser are thieves, mob thugs, adventurers and fighters who continuously run into all sorts of strange situations. The art is beautiful, the text well written and the adapation successful (with the exception of the second to last story "Lean Times in Lankhmar" which is just confusing). Recommended reading to all those who like good fantasy aventures.

Edited August 24, 2007 by Jora

[Oerwinde]

 

 

Though I normally leave DC Comics to be read by the 12yearolds that have always been their target demographic, I did pick up Alex Ross Justice a while ago because he is wickedly skilled.

 

But when I got into this, I was faced with a Justice League that must have grown completely incompetent since the last time I read about them in the 80's. Wonder Woman gets the **** kicked out of her by some weird chick in a leopard suit, Superman is defeated by a clone and a zombie and Hawkgirl is blown to smithereens by toy spitfires. I dont know anything about hawkgirl, but someone like wonderwoman who can throw tanks like snowballs does not loose a catfight to a... catwoman. And Superman can survive a direct impact by a nuke, but he cant take a few punches from a zombie?! What the hell is going on!

 

Supes was taken down by Grundy, Metallo, Bizarro, and Parasite if I remember correctly. Parasite and Metallo alone are capable of taking down Supes if the conditions are right. Having Bizarro and Grundy hold him down for Parasite to suck his strength and Metallo to rape him with Kryptonite radiation seems plausible to me.

 

WW getting beat by the cat chick was dumb though. And Supes was only able to survive the nuke in Kingdom Come, which gave him another 20 or so years to absorb solar radiation

[Calax]

I like Ross's art but dislike him as a person (at least from everything I've heard).

 

He refuses to use any DC character created after 1986 because he thinks things went downhill from there. (for example when kingdom come came out the reigning green lantern was Kyle Raynor, but ross used the origional alan scott.)

[Musopticon?]

Bone is fantastic. We have some of it in our local library but I could never get a hold of it properly, being in NZ.

 

It's mine, MIIINE!

 

I recently bought a comic book adaptation of Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser. It's a collection of short stories set in the fantasy world of Newhon, drawn by the Hellboy artist Mike Mignola. The characters Fafhrd and Mouser are thieves, mob thugs, adventurers and fighters who continuously run into all sorts of strange situations. The art is beautiful, the text well written and the adapation successful (with the exception of the second to last story "Lean Times in Lankhmar" which is just confusing). Recommended reading to all those who like good fantasy aventures.

 

The original is fantastic pulp fantasy. Supposedly Lankhmar(and Grey Mouser himself) worked as an inspiration for Thief:The Dark Project, China Mieville(of Perdido Street Station-fame) also vows in its name. I've got to find the comic.

 

Joten, mist

Edited August 24, 2007 by Musopticon?

[Kaftan Barlast]

The only thing about DC I really like is 'Big Barda' because, as a child, I read that issue where Sleeze hypnotizes Superman and Barda into starring in pornfilms 80's style and she also uses a phallic weapon called a Mega Rod. Since then, my ideal image of a woman is a 7' amazon with blue eyes and a horned helmet... an ideal my girlfriends have found hard to live up to.

 

 

Overall, I think the mainstream comics business is in a bit of a rut right now. Marvel blew all their Steam on "Civil War"(which was sheer awesomeness), so now they've left it to the interns to spew out That Hulk-thing which is among the least interesting crap Ive ever read.

[kirottu]

Also, because that's what this thread is about: I've read like a ton of Naruto lately.

 

"Tobi=Obito is truth because their names are similar! I don

Edited August 24, 2007 by kirottu

[Kaftan Barlast]

Im not really allowed to talk about Japan or the Japanese on this forum anymore(I have two warnings, both from alleged racism towards said ethnic group), but I have to say that Manga and Anime is just overhyped excrement that doesnt deserve half an ounce of the attention it's getting from morons like you.

[kirottu]

Im not really allowed to talk about Japan or the Japanese on this forum anymore(I have two warnings, both from alleged racism towards said ethnic group),

 

Really?

 

but I have to say that Manga and Anime is just overhyped excrement that doesnt deserve half an ounce of the attention it's getting from morons like you.

 

There

[Tale]

morons like you.

Trolling people in a thread you started, eh Kaft?

[Jora]

Bone is just awesome. Maybe the best comic series ever made. It works on so many levels: There's the combination of Donald Duck style characters with simple, cartoonish motivations and a well crafted, serious fantasy world. Then of course Jeff Smith's AMAZING visuals that are a constant source of joy and really do a wonderful job at supporting the jokes. Smith is a masterful storyteller whose sense of rythm and pace is unparalled. The creature and humanoid designs are also great.

 

Supposedly Lankhmar(and Grey Mouser himself) worked as an inspiration for Thief:The Dark Project

Funny you should mention that, as just a while ago I noticed how similar the cover of the upcoming Finnish translation of the Lankhmar books is with the visual style of the Thief cinematics. (look closely at the outlines of the objects and the characters):

http://www.vaskikirjat.fi/kuvat/lankhmarin...aat_preview.JPG

 

Joten, mist

Edited August 24, 2007 by Jora

[kirottu]

morons like you.

Trolling people in a thread you started, eh Kaft?

 

Dude, don

[Tale]

I think I could take the both of you.

[Pidesco]

Im not really allowed to talk about Japan or the Japanese on this forum anymore(I have two warnings, both from alleged racism towards said ethnic group), but I have to say that Manga and Anime is just overhyped excrement that doesnt deserve half an ounce of the attention it's getting from morons like you.

 

I also dislike manga, but it's not like it's any better than American comics.

[Kaftan Barlast]

First fo all, Id like to applogize for my earlier outburst of raw emotional power induced by the thought of the-people-im-not-supposed-to-talk-about. It's a shame that I allowed my dislike for the culture of the-country-im-not supposed-to-talk-about get in the way of the sacred bond of brotherly love that exists between all Finns and Swedes.

 

 

morons like you.

Trolling people in a thread you started, eh Kaft?

Dude, don

[Baley]

Sometimes when I'm really bored - and stuff - I surf wikipedia and read super-hero profiles. In truth, I do this habitually... old Wolverine is old and Hank Prym beats his wife. I know ****.

 

Uh, I've read Kingdom Come. And my dad once bought me some French Spider-Man comics, though I don't speak the language and I haven't looked - uh, gazed! - at them in years.

[Pidesco]

Im not really allowed to talk about Japan or the Japanese on this forum anymore(I have two warnings, both from alleged racism towards said ethnic group), but I have to say that Manga and Anime is just overhyped excrement that doesnt deserve half an ounce of the attention it's getting from morons like you.

 

I also dislike manga, but it's not like it's any better than American comics.

 

I meant worse... >_

[Kaftan Barlast]

I also dislike manga, but it's not like it's any better than American comics.

 

 

Phh....

 

 

no contest.