Eddo36 Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 If the kids grow up and become conscript soldiers as adults anyways, how different would it be than if they just started soldiering as a kid?
Aram Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Good point! The trenches also wouldn't have to be dug as deep.
Tigranes Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Sounds like a fantastic idea. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
Walsingham Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Children are, by their very nature not osychologically the same as adults. This is one of the reasons that child soldiers are used. They are far lesss likely to disobey orders, and far more ruthless. However, they are also affected in by their own brutality and the brutality around them in ways that an adult is not. Probably because they are encoding those experiences differently at the time. They do not know how to construct defences against what they witness, nor that they should construct defences. The effect of brutality on child soldiers is tantamount to any type of abuse on children. It destroys the mind, stunting its development, and twisting the emotional complex. You destroy the individual who is the soldier, and many absorb the template of abuse into themselves, later going on to perpetrate abuse on others. I have no idea why on Earth anyone would consider these consequences worth the 'benefits'. The use of child soldiers in combat is utterly wrong on almost every level. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Walsingham Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 No reason we couldn't use midgets though. Absolutely. The British Empire narrowly avoided a total disaster in the first Boer war because one of the officers was practically a midget. He was the only leader in the force not killed by snipers. Lead his men out of an ambush. Also, midgets rock. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Sand Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Children are, by their very nature not osychologically the same as adults. This is one of the reasons that child soldiers are used. They are far lesss likely to disobey orders, and far more ruthless. However, they are also affected in by their own brutality and the brutality around them in ways that an adult is not. Probably because they are encoding those experiences differently at the time. They do not know how to construct defences against what they witness, nor that they should construct defences. The effect of brutality on child soldiers is tantamount to any type of abuse on children. It destroys the mind, stunting its development, and twisting the emotional complex. You destroy the individual who is the soldier, and many absorb the template of abuse into themselves, later going on to perpetrate abuse on others. I have no idea why on Earth anyone would consider these consequences worth the 'benefits'. The use of child soldiers in combat is utterly wrong on almost every level. I completely and totally, without a single shred of doubt, agree. Child should have a childhood. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Pidesco Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Eddo is totally a genius. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Lord Mayyn Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 either they die now or later. it doesnt matter When you are suffering, know that I have betrayed you.......
Dark_Raven Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Sure why not. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Guest Accept Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Good point! The trenches also wouldn't have to be dug as deep. ---- Hey, why not. Just equip them with half of all the things you have in your armory, Eddo, and we will have a squadron of living Terminators.
Walsingham Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 either they die now or later. it doesnt matter Riiiight. Because the quality of the life in between is irrelevant. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Musopticon? Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Man, I wish I was 14 still, I would have totally gone with Mayyn and been all cool. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
Checkpoint Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 I'm glad Eddo isn't my dad. ^Yes, that is a good observation, Checkpoint. /God
Walsingham Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 I'm glad Eddo isn't my dad. Sadly I don't have that luxury. BTW, I caught this article, and wondered how it looked when you got more detailed about what it means to use kids as combatants. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6579487.stm "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
kirottu Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 If the kids grow up and become conscript soldiers as adults anyways, how different would it be than if they just started soldiering as a kid? What a grreat idea! You know, adults have sex and if they would start to have sex already as kids I This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Lord Mayyn Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) either they die now or later. it doesnt matter Riiiight. Because the quality of the life in between is irrelevant. Man, I wish I was 14 still, I would have totally gone with Mayyn and been all cool. its more along the lines of that i dont care. i would use children for my army. send a 10 year old in enemy territory with a bomb strapped to his back. genius. the universe is massive. our world is insignificant in comparison. every action you and i make is meaningless on the grand scale. Edited April 21, 2007 by Lord Mayyn When you are suffering, know that I have betrayed you.......
Tale Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) Because the only scale that matters is size related, right? The explosion is only about 20 meters across. That's really nothing compared to the size of the galaxy. Edited April 21, 2007 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Lord Mayyn Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 exactly. insignificant When you are suffering, know that I have betrayed you.......
Diamond Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 Uganda children soldiers. I'm glad Eddo isn't my dad. I concur.
Walsingham Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 exactly. insignificant Mayyn, I'm sorry to greet you with teh proverbial hail of fire. I hope we'll continue to see you here. BUt I really can't believe you've considered the consequence of your position. If you are honestly saying that you are unomved by the systematic destruction of an individual's mind, let alone taht of a small child, then I can only feel sorry for YOU! "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Sand Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 A person's mind, personality, intelligence, and knowledge is what makes him or her human. Remove that and all you have is another bipedal animal. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
metadigital Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 If the kids grow up and become conscript soldiers as adults anyways, how different would it be than if they just started soldiering as a kid? At last! A clue! So Ed-D'Oh, what war did you grow up fighting? its more along the lines of that i dont care. i would use children for my army. send a 10 year old in enemy territory with a bomb strapped to his back. genius. Congratulations on displaying the empathy of a psychopath. I suppose you would extend your philosophy to others butchering you for small change, raping and murdering your loved (a big assumption, I know, but I'm talking hypothetically and assuming you have a shred of humanity) because you matter not at all. Or are you a hypocrite as well? And now I wonder why anyone would want to live in the same society as you. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Walsingham Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 If the kids grow up and become conscript soldiers as adults anyways, how different would it be than if they just started soldiering as a kid? At last! A clue! So Ed-D'Oh, what war did you grow up fighting? Weren't you listening? He grew up fighting Godzilla and the Vietcong* in the mean streets of Swansea. its more along the lines of that i dont care. i would use children for my army. send a 10 year old in enemy territory with a bomb strapped to his back. genius. Congratulations on displaying the empathy of a psychopath. I suppose you would extend your philosophy to others butchering you for small change, raping and murdering your loved (a big assumption, I know, but I'm talking hypothetically and assuming you have a shred of humanity) because you matter not at all. Or are you a hypocrite as well? And now I wonder why anyone would want to live in the same society as you. Steady on there, Meta. It's quite normal for peopel to feel less emotional about things that don't affect their immediate family. For example: some kid being flung into a churchtower = mildly funny. My brother getting flung into a churchtower = hilarious. * Some people still seem to be ignorant of the fact that the main reason the yanks lost in Vietnam is because LBJ refused to bomb Godzilla or Swansea. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Sand Posted April 21, 2007 Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) As much as I am mostly indifferent to those outside the US I still think that it is morally reprehensible to use a child as a soldier or instrument of war or terrorism. And any adult who seek to actively kill or harm children in any form should have all the layers of the dermis peeled and thoroughly salted. Edited April 21, 2007 by Sand Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
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