Human sacrifice: Central teaching of Christianity?

[Sand]

Faith is lame.

[Guard Dog]

It's a funny thing about faith. If you do not have it, no one can ever explain it to you. If you do have it, no explanation is necsassary. I read that one somewhere too.

[WITHTEETH]

Christianity is not about human sacrifice.

 

On the contrary it attempts to place a positive environment around our experience of suffering - experience which causes many, if not all, to doubt God.

 

Big topic.

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Whats the meaning of suffering to a Christian and why is it positive?

[Sand]

Sounds a bit masochistic. Is God a sado-masochist? He promotes suffering as being a good thing and torture to those who don't believe/follow him.

Edited January 27, 2007 by Sand

[roshan]

God creates people imperfect, Then blames them for being imperfect.Then sends his son(himself) to be murdered by these same people, to make up for how imperfect those people were, and how imperfect they will inevitably be!

 

And don't forget about the holy trinity because Jesus IS god, talks to himself in the 3rd person "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" and for the finale sacrifices himself to himself.

 

Christianity is a paradox, that is why its based on faith.

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Not only that, Christ spoke in parables so that those who arent supposed to be saved wont understand him.

 

Christianity doesnt work unless the Christian God is assumed to be a sadist who does these things for his own perverse pleasure.

 

Although, once more, paradoxically, he is a God of love! (w00t)

Edited January 27, 2007 by roshan

[Xard]

 

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[DeathScepter]

God creates people imperfect, Then blames them for being imperfect.Then sends his son(himself) to be murdered by these same people, to make up for how imperfect those people were, and how imperfect they will inevitably be!

 

And don't forget about the holy trinity because Jesus IS god, talks to himself in the 3rd person "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" and for the finale sacrifices himself to himself.

 

Christianity is a paradox, that is why its based on faith.

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God created Man with freewill and a chance to express his freewill since the Garden of Eden.

 

 

 

 

God didn't make Man to sin, just give him the tools and the chance to choose God or something else.

 

 

 

 

Man by nature is very curious regardless of the sin/imperfect factor. Whom doesn't want to be independant from your parents.

 

 

 

 

God bridge the gap between Man and God.

 

 

The willing sarfice was indeed. If Jesus Christ was unwilling, And God force him to do it. Then Jesus Christ dying on the Cross would be invain.

 

 

Jesus Christ was a willing sarfice but it does mean that he liked that path.

 

 

In the Garden the night before his execution, he was praying to God to find another way because he, like the rest of us despite he being the Son of God, didn't want to die a brutal death.

[Sand]

God gave man free will, then set up the rules stacked against the nature of man. The nature He imposed on us. This is the one thing why I will never worship God nor follow any of his prophets and progeny. Of all the sins of this Earth, of all the evil mankind can do to itself and to the Earth there is no sin, no evil, that warrants eternal torture and eternal damnation. Until God learns this I will have nothing to do with Him or his ilk.

[DeathScepter]

Why do parents have rules for their childerns?

 

 

 

Also to become better than the animals, that is why there are rules.

 

 

 

 

Also Have you ever wonder why we have so many religions in the world today?

[Sand]

Parents, good parents, don't eternally punish their kids with pain and torture if they misbehave.

[Xard]

Then Hades might be happy to know many Christians don't encourage believe in Hell.

[Tale]

Then Hades might be happy to know many Christians don't encourage believe in Hell.

I like those Christians.

[Sand]

Then Hades might be happy to know many Christians don't encourage believe in Hell.

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For there to be light, there must be dark. For there to be good there must be evil. For there to be Heaven there must be Hell.

 

edit: That was a bit over dramatic, wasn't it.

Edited January 27, 2007 by Sand

[Colrom]

Christianity is not about human sacrifice.

 

On the contrary it attempts to place a positive environment around our experience of suffering - experience which causes many, if not all, to doubt God.

 

Big topic.

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Whats the meaning of suffering to a Christian and why is it positive?

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I didn't mean to imply that suffering is positive. It isn't.

 

Christianity mostly tries to focus on the positive that remains when suffering is removed - a positive that is present to some extent, although not always appreciated, even when suffering is the focus of our experience.

 

I can only speak for my understanding of Christianity.

Edited January 27, 2007 by Colrom

[thepixiesrock]

Well, everyone has a right to their [sic] opinion.

[Colrom]

:D

[Colrom]

Then Hades might be happy to know many Christians don't encourage believe in Hell.

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For there to be light, there must be dark. For there to be good there must be evil. For there to be Heaven there must be Hell.

 

edit: That was a bit over dramatic, wasn't it.

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Oh my!

 

You want a fight don't you?!

 

Well, nah, nah, nah.

 

No fight for you!

 

You are not worthy! :D

[thepixiesrock]

Yeah, remember, there is no such thing as good, just the absence of evil.

[metadigital]

"Actually, Christianity is a bridge between the older religions and their sacrificial purifications (e.g. the witchdoctor can be sacrificed

[Tale]

Yeah, remember, there is no such thing as good, just the absence of evil.

Which only supports my claim that good people are deficient.

[metadigital]

I read somewhere that heresy and witch trials were a good way to get rid of a community member nobody wanted around. If I'm not mistaken, that is the origin of the expression "fired" used in so many work places today.

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Myth.

 

"Fired" was worse than getting "the sack" because one's tools were incinerated rather than given (in a sack) to take away on the search for new employment. (I think you had to steal something, or worse, to get fired.)

 

And don't forget about the holy trinity because Jesus IS god, talks to himself in the 3rd person "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" and for the finale sacrifices himself to himself.

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Because that is the verbatim text he spoke.

[Sand]

You are confusing the historical Jesus with the religious one.

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For some people its the same Jesus.

[Jorian Drake]

You are confusing the historical Jesus with the religious one.

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For some people its the same Jesus.

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The one and only

[Gorgon]

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You are confusing the historical Jesus with the religious one."

 

No.

 

Jesus was crucified by the Romans for political reasons whether you are religious or not.

Edited January 28, 2007 by Gorgon