Colrom Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 (edited) Also from wiki about South Africas abandonment of nuclear weapons- "With the anticipated changeover to a majority-elected government in the 1990s, the South African government dismantled all of its nuclear weapons, making it the only nation in the world which voluntarily gave up nuclear arms which it had itself developed. The country has been a signatory of the Biological Weapons Convention since 1975, the Chemical Weapons Convention since 1995, and the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty since 1991." So it seems that the move was really done to keep the weapons out of the hands of the black majority government. More of a scuttling move than a real voluntary giving up of the weapons. They just wanted to deny the capability to the blacks. Ain't history illuminating?! Edited October 9, 2006 by Colrom As dark is the absence of light, so evil is the absence of good. If you would destroy evil, do good. Evil cannot be perfected. Thank God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Bite me USA! Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 they are costly to maintain. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> May just be cheaper to fire 'em of, then, aye? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only if you ignore the opportunity costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skynet Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 US, Russia, India, Pakistan, China, France, UK and Germany are, I believe, the nuclear powers of the world right now. With NK theres nine total. It should be pointed out that once a country has nukes, it will never give them up via diplomacy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As I remember, some of the smaller nations that broke off of the Soviet Union have limited nuclear capabilities too. "Who could blame Skynet? He's such a cute, innocent, steel-bolted robot." -Gauntlet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCrichton Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 For many years I have found it funny that some countries has nukes but goes insane when other get them as well... Yes Yes I know that some leaders are evil sith lords... I actually finds it funny because now a relatively small contry as north korea has the power to negotiate on fair terms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 US, Russia, India, Pakistan, China, France, UK and Germany are, I believe, the nuclear powers of the world right now. With NK theres nine total. It should be pointed out that once a country has nukes, it will never give them up via diplomacy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Didn't South Africa have nukes and give them up? I think they did. So it is possible. That example notwithstanding I agree that it is unlikely that a country will give up military capabilities. But they might let them decay if there is no perceived need for them and they are costly to maintain. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> but were they diplomatically pressured into giving up their nuclear capability or did they just do it because they were cool? Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 For many years I have found it funny that some countries has nukes but goes insane when other get them as well... Yes Yes I know that some leaders are evil sith lords... I actually finds it funny because now a relatively small contry as north korea has the power to negotiate on fair terms! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nah, I predict that North Corea will be bent over and reamed hard; already this morning China has said it will back sanctions against them. The UN needs to show that it isn't a toothless tiger, and the Japan has made up with China, and the US, South Corea and Japan and even China are all talking the same talk, even Russia is making angry noises! It's actually helped stabilize the area, in effect: my enemies enemy is my friend ... OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 With a hairdo like this... ...ya simply gotta let the man have his nukes baby. DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 The man's as mad as a spoon! He needs a comb, and Queer eye for the crazed dictator long before he starts trying to hit the world stage. And yes, North Korea's hilarious until the old man really loses it and decides to nuke the Kuriles. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I don't think eating grass for lunch is hilarious. ) kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 I thought that's what Finnish students lived on? (Grass.) /bad joke OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Reporter: In 2003 Pres. Bush said he would not tolerate a nuclear armed N. Korea, what went wrong? Tony Snow: I don't think anything went wrong. If there is a failure, it's on the part of the N.Korea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Well, you don't exactly eat the thing, if you catch my drift. And I think you don't, old codger kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 What about cookies? Oh, that's right: students can't cook. " OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Hey, I can cook! kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 As a student I spent an entire doing nothing but learning to cook the cheapest curry and soups possible. I discovered you can make a curry for three people cost less than a pound and be delicious. Of course that was a while ago. :"> In korea they would understand this as they are mired in the 1960s and eating beetles most years. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colrom Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 (edited) As a student I spent an entire doing nothing but learning to cook the cheapest curry and soups possible. I discovered you can make a curry for three people cost less than a pound and be delicious. Of course that was a while ago. :"> In korea they would understand this as they are mired in the 1960s and eating beetles most years. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I read somewhere that the effects of malnutrition on the development of NK children has been very significant. What a disaster! I don't think that asset freezes and nukes and embargos and such stuff will help much. Edited October 10, 2006 by Colrom As dark is the absence of light, so evil is the absence of good. If you would destroy evil, do good. Evil cannot be perfected. Thank God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 According to CNN, the nuke didn't quite work. It was purported to be a 4 kiloton payload. The evidence since the test seems to indicate around a half kiloton of ordinance. Hell, a lot of the early Manhattan Project tests fizzled, and we were better off than these guys /:| Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 They apparently just popped off another one...possibly. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 They apparently just popped off another one...possibly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, that was me. I always get those seismic sensors a buzzin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 They apparently just popped off another one...possibly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, that was me. I always get those seismic sensors a buzzin' <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You won't think it's so funny when we invade you And on that nuclear powers list, you forgot Israel. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 They apparently just popped off another one...possibly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, that was me. I always get those seismic sensors a buzzin' <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You won't think it's so funny when we invade you ....Colorado is going to invade Illinois? Bring it, hippies. Israel hasn't formally annouced having nuclear weapons, I don't believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Swap Isreal for Germany. My local Paper did a huge spread about it (this is the Sacramento Bee) and said that there are five countries in the poliferation treaty: US, France, UK, China, and russia. Three other countries are KNOWN to have nukes: Isreal (who is militarily something of a puppet for the US in that they get 90% of their equipment from us) Pakistan India then it put NK in the "possibly" catagory that only contained NK Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Isreal (who is militarily something of a puppet for the US in that they get 90% of their equipment from us) pfff, do you know how many contries thats true of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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