Bokishi Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Artist formerly known as "Mistress". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OT, but what happened to The Lair? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Save taking this thread off the rails completely, you can find the answers here. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who are you??? Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Artist formerly known as "Mistress". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OT, but what happened to The Lair? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Save taking this thread off the rails completely, you can find the answers here. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who are you??? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Former Global Moderator Mistress. " War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 "They'll probably do it the Piranha Bytes' way: release a demo after the game has been released." Meh. They'd be doing it the same way it was done with NWN. "In Piranha Bytes case I can understand it (small team, not enough time), but for Obsidian..? It just feels so illogical to release the demo after the game. Isn't a demo supposed to make you interested in a not-yet-released game? Also, a demo is a good indication if your computer can handle the game in question." Nah. A demo is simply a way to see if you like a game before playing it. It shouldn't matter if the demo is released before or after the game is released. In fact, it's more intelligent if a company releases a demo after the actual game is released business wise. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Haven't quite a few demos been released after the actual game release, or am I going a bit mad? For some reason I seem to remember that the BG2 demo came after the game - but I might well be wrong...I don't generally pay a great deal of attention to demo releases. "Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell Kitty Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 In fact, it's more intelligent if a company releases a demo after the actual game is released business wise. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is that? A demo could get people to buy a game they are hesitant to buy without trying first. There have been numerous games I wouldn't have bought if if hadn't been for a demo, ones that I never thought of getting but figured I'd try the demo anyway. They only way I see it as bad for business releasing a demo beforehand is if the game is poo. Haven't quite a few demos been released after the actual game release, or am I going a bit mad?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, I don't think it's that uncommon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Haven't quite a few demos been released after the actual game release, or am I going a bit mad?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, I don't think it's that uncommon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi HKD Good to know I'm not going mad (well...). "Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 They'll probably do it the Piranha Bytes' way: release a demo after the game has been released. In Piranha Bytes case I can understand it (small team, not enough time), but for Obsidian..? It just feels so illogical to release the demo after the game. Isn't a demo supposed to make you interested in a not-yet-released game? Also, a demo is a good indication if your computer can handle the game in question. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sure. I'm curious why this doesn't work if the demo was released after the intended release date though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorian Drake Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I hope things are going ok for Obsidian. Or maybe this could be a good thing that they got more time to polish things up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have a bad feeling, clouds gather like by BI and Troika... hope its not true. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I hope things are going ok for Obsidian. Or maybe this could be a good thing that they got more time to polish things up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have a bad feeling, clouds gather like by BI and Troika... hope its not true. :ph34r: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just how this is somehow a bad thingie? I got bit delayed. Big freaking deal. This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Doom-da-doom-doom-dooom. "Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 It's an rpg, why do we need a demo at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_i_am Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I don't follow that line of logic. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Artist formerly known as "Mistress". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OT, but what happened to The Lair? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Save taking this thread off the rails completely, you can find the answers here. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Who are you??? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The Former Global Moderator Mistress. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't remember that name Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Sure. I'm curious why this doesn't work if the demo was released after the intended release date though? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It still works. But I'm curious why they're not using the hype surrounding the game before the release to gain attention for the demo. After a game is released, I seldom bother to download demos. I just read reviews instead. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 The Former Global Moderator Mistress. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't remember that name <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Antimatter. "Imagination is more important than knowledge." - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 (edited) Sure. I'm curious why this doesn't work if the demo was released after the intended release date though? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It still works. But I'm curious why they're not using the hype surrounding the game before the release to gain attention for the demo. After a game is released, I seldom bother to download demos. I just read reviews instead. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why not? It's effectively still the same thing, in terms of trying out the game and seeing how it runs. I don't typically play demos to build up the hype for a game for me, but rather to see what the game is like. I still feel it's a much better assessment of the game than a review. As for why they wouldn't do it to help build the hype with a prerelease demo, maybe they'd rather have their team working on the final product since they already had a minor delay recently, and are likely in a huge crunch. Taking people off the project to work on a demo is probably low priority. Edited September 20, 2006 by alanschu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Never trust a reviewer; only your own experiences. Having said that I barely buy any games before having played a demo (B&W and Oblivion made sure of that) exception line GTA... From my experience most demo's are shipped AFTER the final game is done; to lure in any doubters (scaring off the real-sure-buyers is a risk of pre-game-demo's)... And Demo's can give some great insights and make you buy games I would otherwise would never have bought (Majesty, Deus Ex, GTA (1), Dungeon Siege, Freelancer, Painkiller etc. etc. etc.) ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 NWN didn't have a demo. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karka Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 No. It had. http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/demo.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 That wasn't there at release was it? Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 That's not what you claimed though... DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 No. It had. http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/demo.html <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I remember that. Takes you right to the end of the tutorial area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 That's not what you claimed though... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Eh? When did I claim anything about a NWN demo? Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 "NWN didn't have a demo." That's what you claimed. Your claim was proven wrong. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Foot Invisible Rabbit Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Yes, and your point? I was proven wrong then I asked if that was there at the game's release. Then you said that isn't what I claimed. I am asking now if that was there when the game was released. Harvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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