I am never 100% certain on anything because something can happen at any moment that can cause a change in the current situation.  Suffice it to say, I am 90% certain that the next game Obsidian released is not a Bioware hand me down.

 

What would be the change a totally original IP "suddenly" *TURNS* into a sequel to another game?

 

Scratching is way more logical than a transformation like that...

What would be the change a totally original IP "suddenly" *TURNS* into a sequel to another game? 

 

Scratching is way more logical than a transformation like that...

Isn't PNJ based on an existing IP though?

Bloodlines is the name of the game.  Like KOTOR.  Masquerade and Requiem are the settings.  Some dudes can probably fill us in better.

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Correct. World of Darkness is dead-dead. No more releases ever. WW made a big deal about sticking to their original vision that the apocalypse/gehenna was nearing and ended the Masquerade/Apocalypse/Ascension product lines.

 

Requiem and other current WW products are seemingly available.

Isn't PNJ based on an existing IP though?

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I believe they did say that, yes.

 

So it's within the realms of possibility that PNJ's not the first game to come from that IP. If the first game was a long time ago, or a different genre, or unsuccessful, they might want to produce another game while signalling clearly that it wasn't a sequel to the first.

 

Only time and/or Obsidian can tell for sure.

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Only time will tell what this means.

Bloodlines is the name of the game.  Like KOTOR.  Masquerade and Requiem are the settings.  Some dudes can probably fill us in better.

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Correct. World of Darkness is dead-dead. No more releases ever. WW made a big deal about sticking to their original vision that the apocalypse/gehenna was nearing and ended the Masquerade/Apocalypse/Ascension product lines.

 

Requiem and other current WW products are seemingly available.

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requiem is no longer about "I'm a monster but I don't want to be"

 

It's I'm an immortal redeeming my self.

What would be the change a totally original IP "suddenly" *TURNS* into a sequel to another game? 

 

Scratching is way more logical than a transformation like that...

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I don't know, but anything could happen between now and the game's release.

Bloodlines is the name of the game.  Like KOTOR.  Masquerade and Requiem are the settings.  Some dudes can probably fill us in better.

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Correct. World of Darkness is dead-dead. No more releases ever. WW made a big deal about sticking to their original vision that the apocalypse/gehenna was nearing and ended the Masquerade/Apocalypse/Ascension product lines.

 

Requiem and other current WW products are seemingly available.

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requiem is no longer about "I'm a monster but I don't want to be"

 

It's I'm an immortal redeeming my self.

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Requiem is D20 vampire <_<

 

Maybe not litterally... but they're definately trying to go the same route WotC did.

 

Major disappointment.

 

Though it's always possible they'll redeem themselves in my eyes with Changeling.

requiem is no longer about "I'm a monster but I don't want to be"

 

It's I'm an immortal redeeming my self.

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Sounds vaguely familiar.

Requiem is D20 vampire <_<

 

Maybe not litterally... but they're definately trying to go the same route WotC did.

 

Major disappointment.

 

Though it's always possible they'll redeem themselves in my eyes with Changeling.

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How is it D20 Vampire? Because they have one rule-book that all the settings use as a base? That, to me, is a vast improvement. Doing any sort of cross-setting campaign was a nightmare with the old rules.

 

I think the new rules are a big improvement over the old ones. At first glance I didn't but after having played with them a bit, I've come around to them. The only thing I think is a bit worse is the removal of the freebie point system at character creation, but it's fairly minor (mostly it's annoying when 7 points in backgrounds aren't enough for the history you want your character to have).

 

On another note, the new setting is still called World of Darkness. It's just a new WoD, the other one ended. And afaik it was the old one WW no longer wanted to support, which is what caused problems for Bloodlines (Activision wanted to axe it, but Troika convinced them to let them finish it but with a shorter deadline, something like that).

Versitily and streamlining of rules make it easier for new players to get into the game and allow greater flexibility for the game master to use cross reference material. A Spider said it was a nightmare trying to get Werewolf stuff to mesh with Mage stuff and to work with Vampire stuff smoothly. Now it can be.

And now Obsidian can make a Requiem game happily.

As long it comes to the PC I'm happy.

How is it D20 Vampire? Because they have one rule-book that all the settings use as a base? That, to me, is a vast improvement. Doing any sort of cross-setting campaign was a nightmare with the old rules.

 

I think the new rules are a big improvement over the old ones. At first glance I didn't but after having played with them a bit, I've come around to them. The only thing I think is a bit worse is the removal of the freebie point system at character creation, but it's fairly minor (mostly it's annoying when 7 points in backgrounds aren't enough for the history you want your character to have).

 

On another note, the new setting is still called World of Darkness. It's just a new WoD, the other one ended. And afaik it was the old one WW no longer wanted to support, which is what caused problems for Bloodlines (Activision wanted to axe it, but Troika convinced them to let them finish it but with a shorter deadline, something like that).

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You make a character, you add a template, and another, yadda yadda yadda...

 

Bleak and generic Just like a D20 product.

 

Requiem has no soul, Forsaken is lame, and Awakening is just plain akward

 

dunno about promethian, and I still have hope for changeling.

Obsidian has existed for what? Nearly 4 years? They've made 2 games both of which are sequels to BIO games. Of course, people are gonna think that. Don't blame the fans, blame Obsidian.

 

Not that Obsidian is gonna cry about it, anyways. Those sequels have sold million + copies (KOTOR2), or will sell million + copies (NWN2).

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I think Obsidian's been very lucky to inherit two of Bio's games. Even though some of its devs came from BIS, Obsidian was a new name in the buisness, and it is often hard to get into the dough as a startup company.

 

I'm just saying, Obsidian is probably grateful to Bioware for these first two "hand-me-downs".

And now Obsidian can make a Requiem game happily.

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It would make me happy.

And that would make me happy ^_^

And that would make ME happy *wink wink*

And that makes me feel creepy.

As we all happily derail another thread ..!