ramza Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Very funny video and so true... I don't understand why some people hate the EU. http://www.whathaseuropedone.org/ "Ooo, squirrels, Boo! I know I saw them! Quick, throw nuts!" -Minsc "I am a well-known racist in the Realms! Elves? Dwarves? Ha! Kill'em all! Humans rule! -Me Volourn will never grow up, he's like the Black Peter Pan, here to tell you that it might be great to always be a child, but everybody around is gonna hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Hmmm... everything they claim has only really been provided on paper. I mean "a single voice in world trade"? Pull the other one, mate. It's got a mad French cow hanging off it. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramza Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 As a student specialized in EU law, I can tell you that everything they say is correct apart from the "single voice in world trade"., which is simply an exaggeration. The EC (European Communities, which are different from the EU) are indeed a member of the WTO but they cannot conclude agreements on any field of trade (the EC is mainly competent to conclude agreements on trade of goods, and agreements on just some aspects of trade of services and intellectual property matters). Besides that, the EU has done a lot more than what is said in this video: EU citizenship, setting up of social standards, cooperation in the fields of security, justice, immigration, education, promotion of national cultures, etc etc etc (the list can be quite long). Some people just cannot accept that times have changed and that the preservation of national sovereignty alone will not save their countries. Those are called "eurosceptics" and will do anything to criticize the EU despite all the benefits it has brought. OK, I admit that the EU also has its share of problems but they are insignificant compared to how much it has improved our life quality since WW2. "Ooo, squirrels, Boo! I know I saw them! Quick, throw nuts!" -Minsc "I am a well-known racist in the Realms! Elves? Dwarves? Ha! Kill'em all! Humans rule! -Me Volourn will never grow up, he's like the Black Peter Pan, here to tell you that it might be great to always be a child, but everybody around is gonna hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramza Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Hmmm... everything they claim has only really been provided on paper. I mean "a single voice in world trade"? Pull the other one, mate. It's got a mad French cow hanging off it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You say that all of these things have been provided on paper which is wrong. All the legislation that is adopted by the EU is implemented both at EU and national levels. Specific bodies have been set up for that purpose. "Ooo, squirrels, Boo! I know I saw them! Quick, throw nuts!" -Minsc "I am a well-known racist in the Realms! Elves? Dwarves? Ha! Kill'em all! Humans rule! -Me Volourn will never grow up, he's like the Black Peter Pan, here to tell you that it might be great to always be a child, but everybody around is gonna hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Cheaper flights leads to more flights, which leads to greater environmental pollution, yet they pair up cheaper flights and environmental protection as their first two points. Of course, a lot of the achievements of Europe could have been achieved by sovereign governments, individually or in co-operation, but the point is that they weren't. The UK government could have cleaned up the beach near my old house any time it liked, but it didn't - until Europe forced it to. In many trade negotiations, the EU does indeed give Europe a single voice, and as the EU position is for the Common Agricultural Policy and trade tariffs, it hasn't benefited the UK much and has probably done great harm to developing countries. The EU has, in money terms, benefited countries like Spain, Greece and the former communist Eastern Europe more, by reinforcing democratic institutions and investing in infrastructure that allows these countries to trade and prosper. In the long run, we benefit from the stability that provides as much as anyone. I have more doubts about Europe than I used to, but on balance I'm still firmly a euro-enthusiast. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 As a student specialized in EU law, I can tell you that everything they say is correct apart from the "single voice in world trade"., which is simply an exaggeration. The EC (European Communities, which are different from the EU) are indeed a member of the WTO but they cannot conclude agreements on any field of trade (the EC is mainly competent to conclude agreements on trade of goods, and agreements on just some aspects of trade of services and intellectual property matters). Besides that, the EU has done a lot more than what is said in this video: EU citizenship, setting up of social standards, cooperation in the fields of security, justice, immigration, education, promotion of national cultures, etc etc etc (the list can be quite long). Some people just cannot accept that times have changed and that the preservation of national sovereignty alone will not save their countries. Those are called "eurosceptics" and will do anything to criticize the EU despite all the benefits it has brought. OK, I admit that the EU also has its share of problems but they are insignificant compared to how much it has improved our life quality since WW2. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As an employer, and as someone who has friends 'serving' in the euro-machine, I say there is a world of difference between legislating on a subject and actually doing something about it. Yes, the EU has plenty of laws on these topics. My objection is firstly that the laws are convoluted and intrusive. And secondly that the EU has only a circuitous mandate to make so many damn laws. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 They hate us because of our freedom! Eh... wait a minute... - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigboy2 Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) Very funny video and so true... I don't understand why some people hate the EU. http://www.whathaseuropedone.org/ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Honestly that movie pretty much said that they only improved stuff that evolves of relationship ship with them. Student exchange programs? Oh wow... As a student specialized in EU law, I can tell you that everything they say is correct apart from the "single voice in world trade"., which is simply an exaggeration. The EC (European Communities, which are different from the EU) are indeed a member of the WTO but they cannot conclude agreements on any field of trade (the EC is mainly competent to conclude agreements on trade of goods, and agreements on just some aspects of trade of services and intellectual property matters). Besides that, the EU has done a lot more than what is said in this video: EU citizenship, setting up of social standards, cooperation in the fields of security, justice, immigration, education, promotion of national cultures, etc etc etc (the list can be quite long). Some people just cannot accept that times have changed and that the preservation of national sovereignty alone will not save their countries. Those are called "eurosceptics" and will do anything to criticize the EU despite all the benefits it has brought. OK, I admit that the EU also has its share of problems but they are insignificant compared to how much it has improved our life quality since WW2. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh they meant the EU, I thought they meant Europe. Edited June 4, 2006 by Craigboy2 "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Ask not what Europe has done for you, ask what you have done for Europe. Jerkface. Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 As a student specialized in EU law, I can tell you that everything they say is correct apart from the "single voice in world trade"., which is simply an exaggeration. The EC (European Communities, which are different from the EU) are indeed a member of the WTO but they cannot conclude agreements on any field of trade (the EC is mainly competent to conclude agreements on trade of goods, and agreements on just some aspects of trade of services and intellectual property matters). Besides that, the EU has done a lot more than what is said in this video: EU citizenship, setting up of social standards, cooperation in the fields of security, justice, immigration, education, promotion of national cultures, etc etc etc (the list can be quite long). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So I take a break from studying to set my mind on something else for a moment, and then I see the exact same stuff I'm studying right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigboy2 Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 (edited) Ask not what Europe has done for you, ask what you have done for Europe. Jerkface. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> WWII... Edited June 4, 2006 by Craigboy2 "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 hahaha!in means of sarcasm, funny video,however i dont believe that eu has brought peace.i think what eu brings is a reign of chaos like the warcraftiii game after considering the war on kosova. for recent days, i describe eu as an ameoba trying to go somewhere, but not being able to go cuz of the political struggles of the major countries to be at the helm.attempts to enlarge makes the unbalanced random movements of ameoba similar to that as if it is about to xplode cuz f the hesittion to eat the things around or not. The Illuminator Democracy starts with allowing different political opinions to express themselves. Fascism starts with killling all, who has different political opinions than yours. It's a pity for earth as it is full of fascists claiming to be democratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigboy2 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 You need to use spell check... "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 You need to use spell check... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think i dont need to as im not in an british english exam. The Illuminator Democracy starts with allowing different political opinions to express themselves. Fascism starts with killling all, who has different political opinions than yours. It's a pity for earth as it is full of fascists claiming to be democratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Don't mind Craigboy, he's the new Jodo. Isn't he? Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf16 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Since when? I had thought that some of nature's journeymen had made men and not made them well, for they imitated humanity so abominably. - Book of Counted Sorrows 'Cause I won't know the man that kills me and I don't know these men I kill but we all wind up on the same side 'cause ain't none of us doin' god's will. - Everlast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 You're right, he just doesn't have that Jodo feel, does he? Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf16 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Very few can accomplish a "feel" like that. I had thought that some of nature's journeymen had made men and not made them well, for they imitated humanity so abominably. - Book of Counted Sorrows 'Cause I won't know the man that kills me and I don't know these men I kill but we all wind up on the same side 'cause ain't none of us doin' god's will. - Everlast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigboy2 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 You need to use spell check... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think i dont need to as im not in an british english exam. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But it hurts my eyes to read your uncapitalized Is. "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Don't mind Craigboy, he's the new Jodo. Isn't he? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> what is jodo?i dont need to google for it though'n ive signed up'ere last year.not very old ha?however my age is muh older than u i think as u seem to be teen. The Illuminator Democracy starts with allowing different political opinions to express themselves. Fascism starts with killling all, who has different political opinions than yours. It's a pity for earth as it is full of fascists claiming to be democratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 You need to use spell check... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think i dont need to as im not in an british english exam. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But it hurts my eyes to read your uncapitalized Is. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> u may ignore my nonbritishly english posts. The Illuminator Democracy starts with allowing different political opinions to express themselves. Fascism starts with killling all, who has different political opinions than yours. It's a pity for earth as it is full of fascists claiming to be democratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 The guy is from Istanbul. Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illuminator Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 The guy is from Istanbul. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> how could u realize that?u must have an high IQ The Illuminator Democracy starts with allowing different political opinions to express themselves. Fascism starts with killling all, who has different political opinions than yours. It's a pity for earth as it is full of fascists claiming to be democratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigboy2 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 (edited) You need to use spell check... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think i dont need to as im not in an british english exam. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But it hurts my eyes to read your uncapitalized Is. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> u may ignore my nonbritishly english posts. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Britishly? The guy is from Istanbul. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> how could u realize that?u must have an high IQ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You don't make a lot of friends from insulting everybody left to right. Edited June 5, 2006 by Craigboy2 "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepixiesrock Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Haha, "an high IQ." LOLIRONY. Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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