Atreides Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Here's a conversation. >can you not know you're insane, really? >yep, that's one of the defining characteristics of insanity >Insanity is a sane man trying to cope with an insane world. At least from the inside. Discuss. Spreading beauty with my katana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I discuss *you*. This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Sanity is defined by the society, it's part of the social contract. If socrates had wanted to free all the slaves in Athens, he would have been called insane. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 In an insane world, a sane man must appear, insane. - Golic, Alien 3. (the guy who then releases the captured Alien... irony) DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atreides Posted May 6, 2006 Author Share Posted May 6, 2006 I doubt it because each person's colours of insanity is different. It's not like those that don't fit in our world will auto-fit in other worlds. Spreading beauty with my katana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreptishus Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 >can you not know you're insane, really? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you suffer from schizophrenia then the answer is yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Horrifying illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 The first thing a doctor asks you (when you hear voices) is who's voice ? OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 There's a lot to be said about this subject. One problem with a sort of relativist idea is that makes sanity appear to be some sort of straightjacket into which the free spirited insane person is stuffed. That might be true. However, some forms of insanity transcend this "free spirit" notion. Some forms of insan--- look, a butterfly! Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_i_am Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Where? (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I doubt it because each person's colours of insanity is different. It's not like those that don't fit in our world will auto-fit in other worlds. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 (edited) I think one can know if someone is insane depending on their own definition of insanity. If the axiom disagrees with me, well, then I guess I'm insane. If it doesn't, well, then I'm perfectly sane. I doubt I'm perfectly sane. I'm pretty sure my amount of obsessive compulsive disorders (which, thankfully, are harmless enough) automatically makes me insane. Edited May 6, 2006 by TrueNeutral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf16 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 (edited) It depends on how you look it the term, I think. If you think it's just "Oh, that person's crazy for thinking that"...then that's insanity, or if you think it's "A severe medical condition inhibiting the brain's ability to function normally"...then that's insanity, though the latter form is referred to as a mental illness nowadays, of which there are many, many, many different forms. Edited May 6, 2006 by LoneWolf16 I had thought that some of nature's journeymen had made men and not made them well, for they imitated humanity so abominably. - Book of Counted Sorrows 'Cause I won't know the man that kills me and I don't know these men I kill but we all wind up on the same side 'cause ain't none of us doin' god's will. - Everlast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I think one can know if someone is insane depending on their own definition of insanity. If the axiom disagrees with me, well, then I guess I'm insane. If it doesn't, well, then I'm perfectly sane. I doubt I'm perfectly sane. I'm pretty sure my amount of obsessive compulsive disorders (which, thankfully, are harmless enough) automatically makes me insane. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No. Neurosis ≠ psychosis. n noun (plural neuroses ) Medicine a relatively mild mental illness not caused by organic disease, involving depression, anxiety, obsessive behaviour, etc. but not a radical loss of touch with reality. ORIGIN C18: modern Latin, from neuro- + -osis. n noun (plural psychoses ) a mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that perception of external reality is severely affected. ORIGIN C19: from Greek psukhosis 'animation', from psukhoo 'I give life to', from psukhe 'soul, mind'. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I psychosis *you* Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Well, lay 'insanity' isn't really a specific term, people use it for all kind of crap, not just psychosis. It's not like they're mutually-exclusive, anyway. That's when you get things like schizoaffective disorder, depression with psychotic features, and whatnot. Some would consider it a spectrum, which is where the 'borderline' from borderline personality disorder comes from, referring to someone 'in-between'. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 I was just demonstrating the difference between: a relatively mild mental illness ... but not a radical loss of touch with reality. and a mental disorder in which thought and emotions are so impaired that perception of external reality is severely affected. Otherwise the definition of insanity would include literally everyone, and therefore be completely useless (as a classificatoin or distinction). Actual impairment of the mental faculties OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 "Only the insane have strength enough to prosper. Only those who prosper truly judge what is sane." WH40k, Rogue Trader. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 I was just demonstrating the difference between: No, you were just demonstrating the difference between what I said it was and what the axiom says it was. OCD makes me insane. Because it fits my definition of insane. I really couldn't care less what society says the word means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Are you one of those guys who keeps washing their hands a thousand times until the skin falls off..? Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 No. I'm the guy who can't resist opening any door he sees, need to put any glass right in the middle of a coaster, and tries his hardest to make anything that is uneven into an even number with the exception of the numbers 1 and 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 I was just demonstrating the difference between: No, you were just demonstrating the difference between what I said it was and what the axiom says it was. OCD makes me insane. Because it fits my definition of insane. I really couldn't care less what society says the word means. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you just use any definition of a word to suit your needs at a whim, then what is the point of words at all? I could call someone a twit...but I don't really care what society says the word means, I use it for upstanding individuals that make a real difference in their community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 The difference being that mine is still close enough to the original axiom that only nitpickers will give a dingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 If by nitpickers, you mean the entire field of psychology, then I guess so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonarch Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Actually, insanity is simply a legal term. Psychologists and psychiatrists prefer not to use it, because of the labeling effect. And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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