The bravest woman in the middle east

[6 Foot Invisible Rabbit]

Let just say I had an experience few years back and I'll leave it at that.

Edited March 6, 2006 by 6 Foot Invisible Rabbit

[WITHTEETH]

I do not go by belief, but what I know.  Does God exist, yes.  Do I worship him?  F**k no.

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Okay. You're an empirical rationalist from what you say, yet believe in God. So what evidence do you have that "proves" God exists to you?

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Well the Intelligent design think tank would say the complexity of this universe is proof enough Mothman. But i agree with you for once mothman, there is no empirical evidence for god, only rational, which can be logical, but based on a false premise.

 

just because you believe something doesn't mean its true.

[Atreides]

It's good she gave voice but a shame she will not around for too much longer for her actions.

 

"Nail that sticks out, gets hammered."

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What do you mean by that?

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When someone sticks up for others, against a powerful force like a government, they will usually get themselves into trouble. By being silenced by any means necessary.

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Ok. I thought it was something along the lines of

"Sledgehammer

A heavy hammer ostensibly used for construction. Great for getting that song out of somebody's head, as well as anything else inside."

[Dark Moth]

Well the Intelligent design think tank would say the complexity of this universe is proof enough Mothman. But i agree with you for once mothman, there is no empirical evidence for god, only rational, which can be logical, but based on a false premise.

 

just because you believe something doesn't mean its true.

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That's fine. But just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean it's not true.

[WITHTEETH]

Well the Intelligent design think tank would say the complexity of this universe is proof enough Mothman. But i agree with you for once mothman, there is no empirical evidence for god, only rational, which can be logical, but based on a false premise.

 

just because you believe something doesn't mean its true.

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That's fine. But just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean it's not true.

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You are absolutely correct.

[Volourn]

What i find funny about Hades is that he loathes extremists espicially religious ones yet that's *exactly* what he is.. an extremist, and his religion is one of hate. Very scary!

[thepixiesrock]

Hurray for Volourn!

[Dark Moth]

It's funny because it's true.

 

Volourn FTW.

[Atreides]

It's funny because it's Volourn and Hades.

[6 Foot Invisible Rabbit]

Hey, if those wackos leave me alone I will leave them alone yet at least once a week if not moreso some Christian nutjob thinks it is his or her duty to God to bother me with their useless rhetoric. Oh, I don't follow any religion.

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[WITHTEETH]

What did everyone think of the cleric who was calling what this woman was saying blasphemy. Is he doing a good job at representing his religion?

[thepixiesrock]

Well, it just depends on your opinion of what a "good job" is, and what your personal goals and beliefs are.

[WITHTEETH]

Thats redundant though, really what do you think?

 

In my opinion he was very rude, and the sad part is he represents a large portion of muslims that actually do think and talk like that, not that all muslims do of course. And not that Many Christians and hedonists like myself are that rude too. This woman hit it right on the head when she said islam has to ask itself what it can do for humanity before humanity accepts islam.

[Arkan]

It's good she gave voice but a shame she will not around for too much longer for her actions.

 

"Nail that sticks out, gets hammered."

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What do you mean by that?

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When someone sticks up for others, against a powerful force like a government, they will usually get themselves into trouble. By being silenced by any means necessary.

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And thus a history icon is born. Your Martin Luther King Jrs and such.

[alanschu]

I prefer the term martyr.

[LoneWolf16]

I've never met this woman and I already have a wealth of respect for her. Hopefully, she'll remain safe in the coming days...

[thepixiesrock]

Well she is American and all.

[Walsingham]

There are thousands of even braver women in Afghanistan risking life and limb simply by trying to get an education. It is quite normal for them to have acid thrown in their faces, up in the boondocks, and their teachers have been beheaded. But I'd wager that's more to do with rednecks than Islam.

 

Point is, courage is all around us.

[Surreptishus]

yeah, i don't get the praise for her. She's just some woman criticising Islam from the outside as it were.

[Walsingham]

yeah, i don't get the praise for her. She's just some woman criticising Islam from the outside as it were.

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People can and do get killed for this kind of behaviour. Maybe she ain't more special than some, but I'll salute her for being more gutsy than me!

[Lucius]

Well Sur, outspoken critics of Islam, especially females of arabic origin, are kinda more at risk than, say, you for example. <_<

[astr0creep]

I wouldn't trust a news report so heavily edited and from Al-Jazeera of all things.

If anything, it is for promoting another attack on US soil(she's American-Arabic, so... corrupted, heretic and must be destroyed).

 

Anyway I'm a total non-believer and religion is for the lazy and retarded. She is 100% right. Everything that happens to me is MY fault, MY doing and I control MY life, not some non-existent all powerful entity.

 

That being said, anyone can believe in whatever they want. Just don't impose on me. <_<

[Surreptishus]

Well Sur, outspoken critics of Islam, especially females of arabic origin, are kinda more at risk than, say, you for example.  <_<

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Well since you know nothing about me, thats a mighty big assumption but that is beside the point.

 

I was puzzled by all the back slapping and praise heaped on her by posters in this thread. I did say that she raised valid and reasonable points but its just another atheist criticising a religion.

 

 

Oh, I seemed to have answered my own question.

Edited March 6, 2006 by Surreptishus

[Lucius]

Oh well do tell why you might be more at risk, then.

[astr0creep]

Well Sur, outspoken critics of Islam, especially females of arabic origin, are kinda more at risk than, say, you for example.  <_<

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Well since you know nothing about me, thats a mighty big assumption but that is beside the point.

 

I was puzzled by all the back slapping and praise heaped on her by posters in this thread. I did say that she raised valid and reasonable points but its just another atheist criticising a religion.

 

 

Oh, I seemed to have answered my own question.

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She's not criticising the religion. She's speaking out about how many members of that religion are behaving and how contrary it is to what they are supposed to believe in. They ask for respect by using violence when they did nothing to earn that respect.