Oblivion megamovie

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Incorrect.

 

Your EQ example is a poor one, you "need" to level (i.e. follow the achiever route) to see those high end areas.

 

In morrowind you can see the whole game from level 1 (except for a few key location)

 

I get the feeling you're not an explorer type SP, so I don't think it'd be possible to really explain it to you

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What is ?

 

Actually it's the need to explore that motivates me to "suffer" the leveling. Rather than leveling just to level which is boring since once you level you have to do it again. It's leveling for a higher purpose. The carrot if you like is being able to explore a new zone. Think of it like preparing for an expedition to climb everest, it may be your ultimate goal but if you could do it right away then it would lose all meaning.

 

There is something seriously wrong with a game where you can kill a Solar at level 4 though. It also gives you nothing to aim for especially once you realise that there are no real key locations. By key locations I mean for example the base where you found Bahumet in FFVIII. Not the easiest place in the world to find, but the reward was something that you could be justly proud of, rather than a few more bits of stuff which you already had a ton of from other ruins.

[Darque]

You sound jaded

[Kaftan Barlast]

I dont understand "explorers", I dont understand how seeing ruin_wall_6e or leaftree_4c for the millionth time can be exciting in any way?

[Nartwak]

What's at the top of mountains that makes people climb them?

[Kaftan Barlast]

What's at the top of mountains that makes people climb them?

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phat loot?

[Nartwak]

That's right Kaftan. phat loot.

 

There is also popcorn, but that is part of the phat loot.

[mkreku]

Okay, mkreku, enough of the flaming.

Sorry, Master Hades :">

 

Edit: Took the Bartle-test.

 

Killer 80%

Explorer 73%

Achiever 33%

Socializer 13%

 

Sounds about right.

Edited October 9, 2005 by mkreku

[Musopticon?]

^"Killer 80%

Socializer 13%"

 

How quaint. :D

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Have a link to this thing?

[Musopticon?]

The 4 (mmorpg)player types According to Richard Bartle;

 

Achievers ( Im level 47 wohoo!)

Explorers ( Did you know theres an easteregg in the..if you..and.. under the..)

Socialisers ( So when is George back from his holiday with his grandpa? )

Killers ( Whoah! I got a critical hit 3 times when fighting those kobolds )

 

 

Take the Bartle test:

http://www.andreasen.org/bartle/

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There, Potent.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Thanks

 

my scores

 

Your answers were split as follows:

Explorer 86%

Socializer 60%

Achiever 40%

Killer 13%

[Baley]

Socializer 86%

Explorer 60%

Killer 40%

Achiever 13%

[Kitch]

Your type is: SKE. 2% of respondents so far fall into that type.

 

Your answers were split as follows:

Socializer 53%

Killer 53%

Explorer 53%

Achiever 40%

[Darque]

^"Killer 80%

Socializer 13%"

 

How quaint. :D

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I'm strangely not surprised

[Noceur]

For the dialogue; as I said: Hopefully, but I fear the worst here. Since we have voices they can't just give 2000 NPC's the same "Last Rumor" without having a lot of lines recorded and taking up space...

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I think there's a huge chance that "Latest Rumors" is out... I say this because of the way Bethesda have advertised NPC to NPC conversations. If it works like Bethesda say, then the NPCs will walk around and actually discuss the latest rumours with eachother.

As seen in the 20 minutes of gameplay video, the PC overhears two NPCs discussing a rumour/some news and the PC can then ask NPCs about that rumour/topic.

 

If this works, I think it'd really add to the gameworld... it'd certainly make the characters less stiff (unless all characters in the game repeat the same rumour convos over and over again until eternity)

But I'd also like to be able to ask the bartender about the latest news

[Kaftan Barlast]

WIll you have a party? Or is it the usual "one man army" approach?

[Noceur]

WIll you have a party? Or is it the usual "one man army" approach?

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(If you speak of Oblivion)

There may be quests in which you battle together with NPC(s), as there were in Morrowind, but the only thing close to a party member you get (I presume) is your mount.

 

Hmm, In one of the Morrowind expansions you could hire a mercenary to follow you around and carry stuff, help you in fights. I'm not sure if this is a feature in Oblivion.

I believe the question has been asked and answered by the devs, although I cannot remember the answer.

 

I'll do a little fishing around.

 

EDIT: Not 100% sure but it seems even hired mercenaries are out. You're alone, safe for certain quests.

Edited October 9, 2005 by Noceur

[Guest Fishboot]

Where do you see the TES series going anyway ? Since I've given my glimse into the future I'd be interested to hear yours.

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I don't really know, to be honest. TES games are a one-developer genre, so their direction is volatile. I'd like to see them attempt to converge the Arena/Daggerfall and Morrowind/Oblivion traditions they've developed (that is, merge heavy procedural content and mass handbuilt content - more so than just the SpeedTree forests of Oblivion) but frankly that's unlikely because almost no one in the company was around when Daggerfall was made. I'd also like to see them attempt much more non-linear or distributed narrative rather than linear questline narrative (they already have distributed lore, a good start).

 

I think a lot depends on how Fallout 3 works and whether it succeeds. If they find they have a talent for BIS-style stuff like dialog trees they could integrate them into TES.

[Calax]

I'll join in the scores party!

 

Socializer 73%

Achiever 53%

Explorer 46%

Killer 26%

[SubBassman]

Will Fallout 3 have the same gameplay?

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

Will Fallout 3 have the same gameplay?

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Probably similiar since it's pretty much a Beshesda trademark. Might actually turn out better though , especially if they let you go at it road warrior style rather than have to slog across the world on foot (not a huge issue when you had map movement). And a car just has more possibilities than a horse when it comes to what you can do with it.

Edited October 10, 2005 by ShadowPaladin V1.0

[Epiphany]

360's backwards combatibility relies on a HD. MS is shipping units on the cheap without a HD.

 

MS has done nothing but back peddel on release two SKU's in the US. The rest of the world got one SKU - they obviously screwed up, but BC is still there.

 

Ps3 is backwards compatible over 2 generations, clear win for the PS3.

 

That proves what?

 

The DVD which was forced into the 360 because Toshiba couldnt get its act together in time is obsolete. Developers are already complaining about lack of space and the thing isnt even released yet. And this console is supposed to have a 5 year life span.

 

Or perhaps because they didn't want HD-DVD in their console due to being scared that Blu-Ray, by some fluke, might actually succeed? Remember, you can swap discs, running out of space was a thing of the past when CD drives came out.

 

Blu Ray is new tech and 5-10 times the capacity of a DVD , again win for the PS3 it's far more future proof.

 

It only has a future if hollywood accepts it as the standard medium. Now China is throwing in a third HD drive into the mix, to make things even more insane.

 

The only place where the PS3 falls down is in the price, but when figure in that your getting a Blu Ray which will retail at around $199 anyway it's a bargain.

 

Blu-Ray will not cost $199 at launch, nor around the time of the PS3 launch. You've lost your mind. The PS3 falls short in several other areas, but you've been unable to understand those fundamental concepts, so we won't go over all that again.

 

BTW the 360 is about as popular as clamidia in Japan and everyone was in fits of laughter when those developers reported running out of DVD space.

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Your sources? It appears as though a LOT of Japanese developers are supporting the system in a great way, and despite your G4TV analysis of the consoles popularity in Japan, it will succeed to a far greater level than the Xbox ever did. Hell, just look at the exclusive titles the console has from Japanese developers... Don't be so ignorant as to claim the console is not popular to some degree before launch.

[Guest Fishboot]

Will Fallout 3 have the same gameplay?

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It's unknown at this time. Bethesda has a pretty tight-lipped doctrine so it might be a while before we get any information, too.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

MS has done nothing but back peddel on release two SKU's in the US.  The rest of the world got one SKU - they obviously screwed up, but BC is still there.

 

That proves what?

 

Or perhaps because they didn't want HD-DVD in their console due to being scared that Blu-Ray, by some fluke, might actually succeed?  Remember, you can swap discs, running out of space was a thing of the past when CD drives came out.

 

It only has a future if hollywood accepts it as the standard medium.  Now China is throwing in a third HD drive into the mix, to make things even more insane.

 

Blu-Ray will not cost $199 at launch, nor around the time of the PS3 launch.  You've lost your mind.  The PS3 falls short in several other areas, but you've been unable to understand those fundamental concepts, so we won't go over all that again.

 

Your sources?  It appears as though a LOT of Japanese developers are supporting the system in a great way, and despite your G4TV analysis of the consoles popularity in Japan, it will succeed to a far greater level than the Xbox ever did.  Hell, just look at the exclusive titles the console has from Japanese developers...  Don't be so ignorant as to claim the console is not popular to some degree before launch.

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No HD no backwards compatibility as far as the 360 goes, ergo not a standard feature.

 

That the PS3 is backwards compatible over two generations, dosnt have to prove anything beyond that.

 

The only reason the 360 has a DVD is because Toshiba couldnt be ready in time. Believe anything else and your delluded.

 

Six out of seven major studios are supporting Blu Ray right now.

 

$199 was a conservative estimate, it will likely be even more.

 

Oh you mean the stuff you either lied about or got totally wrong. Dont blame you for not wanting to bring that up again.

 

I've been there. Despite MS throwing shedloads of money at Japanese developers there is little interest in the machine on the street. That might change after release, but since the Xbox has remained about as popular as something that floats in the toilet and the 360 has already become a laughing stock when it comes to storage space I wouldnt hold my breath.

[Epiphany]

Epiphany, here is the link to the story of DVDs being too small:  http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/xbox-360/xbox...pace-123350.php

 

I'm fully aware of the real disc limitations. Enchant Arms was the first game to max out disc space, and they're simply using multiple discs.

 

Also, true and full backward compatibility is an impossibility for the X Box 360.  It uses different graphical architecture than the original X Box.  MS said screw you Intel and Intel got pissed and not allowing any of their X Box hardware licenses go into the X Box 360.  There will be limited backwards compatibility on some high selling games.  The reason why a HD is required is because an emulator program is needed.

 

The X360 can emulate every Xbox game with little to no problems except the few dual layer games (I believe, last number was around 15-16). Of those games, a few are "top sellers" of which, MS has promised will be BC.

 

On the plus side X Box games that do make it over to X Box 360 will look sharper and better than they did on the X Box.

 

Emulation brings all faults of the previous game over - much like the Metroid emulation on Metroid Prime still has the framerate issues of the old NES classic.

 

Actually I think it is prudent for MS to take the DVD approach.  It is a proven technology, holds a lot of data, lots of people use it on a regular basis, and it will skip over the VHS vs Betamax wars that Blue Ray and HD DVD formats will get into.

 

It was their only viable option, and with the new HDWMV compression, even more data can be stored on a disc. It'll work just fine, few games, if any, will have limitations to such a degree that the storage medium will impact it being published/developed.

 

If I was part of the development team of the X Box 360 I would take a good solid look at the various available technologies and probably go withthe Blue Ray or at least a method of upgrading an X Box 360 system.

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I think they're doing what they should do. Stick with a proven medium, advance the compression techniques, and push the games. Going with Blu-Ray would be silly, since there is a chance Blu-Ray will fail.