MTJ Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 hear me out!!! They should try a FPS system where your character plants steel (or light) on the target, it actually hits them but for the damage system it should be based on your skills. They could also do that for power attacks, even a finishing move where you could theorically chop a Sith Soldier's hands off, or even head.... but that may not keep a T rating
Laozi Posted April 25, 2005 Posted April 25, 2005 Haven't you play Jedi Academy and seen how sucky those games are People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair.
Darth Coran Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 Haven't you play Jedi Academy and seen how sucky those games are <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Haven't you played KOTOR 1 and 2 and seen how bad the combat systems are? its rinse and repeat,over and over and over of him jump,hit,get hit,jump,hit... atleast in Academy you can do things a little differently.
Fighter Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 They should not change the style of the game so drastically. Jedi academy is good in its own way, but KOTOR is different. Plus alot of people who play rpgs dont like 'arcade' style controls.
Maverick4101 Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 Lol I feel like I am the only one on this board that likes Jedi Academy and Jedi Oucast sometimes.
Drakron Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 Lightsaber combat is screwed in those games, far too letal and more a matter of luck instead of skill. The problem with the d20 system they put in KotOR(s) games is its a "bare bones" system that is not balanced very well ...
jaguars4ever Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 Lightsaber combat is screwed in those games, far too letal and more a matter of luck instead of skill. The problem with the d20 system they put in KotOR(s) games is its a "bare bones" system that is not balanced very well ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True. Personally, I'm all for a RT pixel specific system such as that of JE. :cool:
213374U Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 No. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
jaguars4ever Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 No. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, he kinda lost any shred of credibility when he mentioned 'FPS'. "
FaramirK Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 J4E has joined the Lego cult... Shouldn't Lightsaber strikes be instant kills on the average foe? I don't mind wading through cannon fodder as long as there are still some challenging battles with the jedi/sith. FPS would be bad, IMO.
MTJ Posted April 26, 2005 Author Posted April 26, 2005 J4E has joined the Lego cult... Shouldn't Lightsaber strikes be instant kills on the average foe? I don't mind wading through cannon fodder as long as there are still some challenging battles with the jedi/sith. FPS would be bad, IMO. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't say it should be a full FPS system.. if you read I suggest that if you hit the target it hits them, but the damage you do on the target is based on your lightsaber skills. Also if they were to make it a hybird combat system, they would never ever make it like JK:Academy. JK:A usually is all about jumping around like a rabbit attempting to slash people
FaramirK Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 I didn't say it should be a full FPS system.. And I said I don't want a FPS! Whether it includes or is merely limited to the view...I like 3rd-person. What's second person view?...
metadigital Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 No. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, he kinda lost any shred of credibility when he mentioned 'FPS'. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think you're on the wrong forum. Try here. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Stargate: 2000 Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 I think using any part of the FPS system would completely suck. If I wanted to play a FPS then I would go and buy one but since I don't then I think they should leave this style of combat in the KOTOR series till the end, maybe refine it a little (saying that is possible) but generally keep the system the same. "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part"
GhostofAnakin Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 Personally, I'm all for a RT pixel specific system such as that of JE. :cool: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wouldn't mind the JE system used for KOTOR3. Maybe JE has softened my stance on that kind of combat in a RPG. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Plano Skywalker Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 I've been playing 3rd Age and, I have to say, the combat system is pretty good. It is True Turn Based and it is based on a 1,000 pt scale (I think that's right). Maybe that is what we need: old-fashioned turn-based combat based on a 1,000 pt scale (to keep it interesting at the higher levels).
jaguars4ever Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 J4E has joined the Lego cult... Our training hones us, our numbers swell - the internet shall fear us once more!
Haitoku Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 Lightsaber combat is screwed in those games, far too letal and more a matter of luck instead of skill. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I like the lethal aspect of the JO/JA lightsaber fighting... What I hate though (online play atleast) is the fact that Duels are soo lame... They aren't even duels... more like, jumping around until you connect a Power stance attack. It would be awsome if there was an engine that could give us a more civilized way to lightsaber duel. Anyhow @ Topic. FPS + Kotor = bad Imagine how the AI would work. NPCs running all over the place, using random sabers attacks to hit enemies... Some more tweaking to the current battle system would be nice... Maybe some walking fightning, crouching attacks, etc. Just some add ons, while still keeping the current rules of the game.
-Master of All- Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 ^This is what happened to the last Lego cult I encountered in my late-night forum browsing.... :ph34r: Consider it a friendly warning against further proliferation of this growing and childish trend.
213374U Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 I like the lethal aspect of the JO/JA lightsaber fighting... What I hate though (online play atleast) is the fact that Duels are soo lame... They aren't even duels... more like, jumping around until you connect a Power stance attack. It would be awsome if there was an engine that could give us a more civilized way to lightsaber duel. I don't think a person with average reflexes would be able to handle a "realistic" lightsaber combat simulation. It'd be way too fast. ^This is what happened to the last Lego cult I encountered in my late-night forum browsing.... :ph34r: Consider it a friendly warning against further proliferation of this growing and childish trend. "Those who dare oppose us will stand knee-deep in the blood of their children" " - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
FaramirK Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 [i don't think a person with average reflexes would be able to handle a "realistic" lightsaber combat simulation. It'd be way too fast. Good point :D
Haitoku Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 [i don't think a person with average reflexes would be able to handle a "realistic" lightsaber combat simulation. It'd be way too fast. Good point :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Soo... THe rest of us would have fun
mEtaLL1x Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 Lol I feel like I am the only one on this board that likes Jedi Academy and Jedi Oucast sometimes. Your feelings deceive you. I also like Jedi Academy combat. By the way, I created a similar thread some time ago, but it was more elaborated. Well, it's deep down in the forum Lethe already....
Haitoku Posted April 26, 2005 Posted April 26, 2005 I enjoyed the combat aswell... It's ashame it goes to hell during online play.
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