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  1. 1. Who shot first

    • Han
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    • Greedo
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I just noticed in Kotor2, one of the Rodians in the Iziz cantina says: "Damn, I forgot my blaster!" if you click on him... :thumbsup:

Beware that Iziz Cantina, Gorth - it's pretty messed up! :p

 

There's a homosexual Twi'lek in there who goes on "Do you like my Lekku?", "I just got them waxed.", "Go ahead, touch them - I don't mind".

 

:thumbsup: ---> :ph34r:

 

 

 

 

 

(My hat's off to Obsidian's creativity though :D )

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I think the orginal was funnier, han shooting greedo like that, I think big George tried to make them both fire as to make greedo look at least competent.

 

I for one would rather fire and miss than get blown away by a guy im aiming a gun at without even realising it was about to happen. :lol:

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[quote name=>' date='Mar 20 2005, 12:26 AM]just watched ANH and im sure greedo shot first.

You were probably not watching the original then, but the "edited" versions.

 

What episode number did the scrolling text say at the start of the movie ?

 

If it said episode IV, you've been cheated and only seen the one with lots of cosmetic surgery and implants.

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If you really want to experience the hype of the Original movies, I suggest trying to get your hands on the actual original ones, not the bastardized versions that Georgie Boy did later on.

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There is no doubt that Han shot first. Greedo didn't even realize Han had taken is gun out and was going to take him back to Jaba alive. At any rate the Jaba they added into star wars a new hope doesn't even look like Jaba. Hes way to small.

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Oh man this again? Gotta be honest here, I don't really care who shot first. Had Greedo shot first in the 77 version and missed would that really have made much difference?

 

I've seen the OT about a 100 times the original way it was realesed, I still have them taped on VHS probably older than some people on these boards. I consider myself a true SW fan, and frankly I don't mind anything that people have complained about in the revisions of the OT...well ok that dancing thing in Jabba's palace in RotJ makes me cringe like watching the Exorcist for the first time; but then again RotJ makes me cringe that way pretty much anyway in any shape way or form, there is very little I like of that movie and that's the freaking ending to the story, like K2's ending a real letdown there.

 

In the original cut of ANH right beofre Han shoots, Greedo says "I've been looking forward to this for a long time" meaning he was about to shoot Han, so Han hardly murdered him in cold blood as many depict. Han just won the quickdraw as Greedo did the stereotipycal villain monologue which delayed him enough to be fried.

 

Do I think the change was necessary? No absolutely not, there was no point to change that scene at all. Am I traumatized by it or does it change the way the movies play out for me, no it doesn't do that either. At least the DVD version almost puts both Han and Greedo firing simultaneously, almost. The only reason I don't like the revision is because it's clearly a cgi mess that looks fake in the final product, had the scene been filmed like that with Ford moving to the side as Greedo fired, I wouldn't have thought any less of the scene.

 

Besides short of ANH, many things in the OT never panned out the way they were described in the orignal versions: Han was never a true badass in any of the following two movies, stormtroopers who were represented as crackshots and elite soldiers in ANH (Remember the intro in the Tantive 4, those guys were on fire) were defeated by Care Bears with rocks, Boba Fett did nothing except pose in the background and get swallowed (Jango at least had a little role in Ep2), Vader couldn't hold up contniuity between the movies of the OT themselves (Vader in ANH is very different from Vader in ESB), many subplots were changed midway through the movies very sloppy (Luke's revenge subplot against Vader murdering his father altered to Vader actually being his father which I didn't mind since it was done very well, the love triangle between Luke, Leia and Han was altered into Luke and Leia being twins which was just disturbing considering their kiss and also pretty much a lame repeat of the discovery that Vader was Luke's father), the Death Star ray which desintegrates planets was actually being used to target and destroy ships(Come on, that ray would have taken out half of both fleets in a single shot) and the villains couldn't come up with a better plan than trying to rebuild the same dud of a space station which was taken out by snubfighters a few years before.

 

So besically Greedo shooting first doesn't affect the way I see Han, the way I see the movies or the way I feel about SW. And I feel the same way about the prequels; they could have been much better sure but I don't think they were as horrible as some people say but that's just a matter of personal taste.

 

If there's anything I think should be changed, well how about almost everything in RotJ: get rid of Death Star part deux (Don't repeat the same thing give me something original), get rid of Ewoks (Go back to the Wookie slave revolt originally written), go back to the original duel between Vader and Luke in the Emperor's palace in Coruscant, have the darn Rebel fleet and Imperial fleet actually fight each other instead of just letting the fighters do all the work (In that fight only once do you see cap ships firing on one another for a split second), oh yeah did I mention get rid of the Ewoks!  :cool:

 

Who shot first?Han, Greedo, HK-47 hidden in a booth...whoever. This is all just my opinion of course and I know I'm in the minority.

 

Wow great post here. I actually like the DVD versions better then I like the special edtions. Of course adding Hayden in to the end of ROTJ is somewhat amusing since his expression doesn't look right. Star Wars a new Hope will always be my favorite even though I was born the year it came out. Mark Hamil had his best apearance by far in that movie and he had something going on with Carry/Harrison that was special.

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Mark Hamil had his best apearance by far in that movie and he had something going on with Carry/Harrison that was special.

Like yelling "Carrie!" (instead of "Leia!") in the celebration scene at the end of the movie... Wonder how that one got through Lucas's QA ;)"

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If you really want to experience the hype of the Original movies, I suggest trying to get your hands on the actual original ones, not the bastardized versions that Georgie Boy did later on.

 

 

 

Eh... What's wrong with the Re-mastered ones?

Better sound? Video? How terrible!

 

And they edited a scene slightly!? OMFG

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If you really want to experience the hype of the Original movies, I suggest trying to get your hands on the actual original ones, not the bastardized versions that Georgie Boy did later on.

 

 

 

Eh... What's wrong with the Re-mastered ones?

Better sound? Video? How terrible!

 

And they edited a scene slightly!? OMFG

 

I don't like the SE VHS, but the new DVDs look great. Sure it's a little differnt then it was, but you will get used to it over time. I'm sure the younger generations like it better. I do think GL went a little to far adding some scenes, but they are still quite good and DVD widescreen just looks so much better qaulity wise.

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Eh... What's wrong with the Re-mastered ones? 

Better sound? Video? How terrible!

 

And they edited a  scene slightly!? OMFG

 

That scene was enough to ruin (or atleast detract) from the movie for me. The entire point of that scene was originally about how good and how fast a draw Han Solo is, cool under pressure.

 

The remastered version just makes him look incredibly lucky, and Greedo look incredibly inept at his profession.

 

Oh, and the addition of the CGI Jabba the Hutt in ANH looked dumb as well. So that's two scenes.

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I would have had a little bit of respect for the man, if he had just left the original alone and then done a completely new set of movies. Might have made the transition from episode I-III to episode 0,V and VI more painless :p

“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein

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I'm quite weary about him doing any more Star Wars flics. On one hand, I'm a Star Wars geek and want to see more stuff. On the other hand, he appears to have lost his touch (based on the first two prequel movies) and it would be painful to see him do something to completely screw up the Star Wars name.

 

Best case scenario: IF he makes new Star Wars movies, don't make them interconnected with the previous series.

"Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque

"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)

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