Exar_Kun Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 just wondering...seen a couple of pretty amazing things, such as luke pushing over an at-at, or exar kun making a star go supernova (which was way out of line in my opinion). also remember darth bane held a spacecraft together with the force and guided it to the ground to keep himself from getting killed. haven't seen any physical stuff though. such as running faster or jumping higher. i've heard about mace windu doin some amazing things in Shatterpoint just can't remember any of them. i know it really depends on the writers but any ideas?
SoulSwindler Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 In the Ep I jedi demonstrated force speed and force jump.
Laozi Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Jedis can bench like 1000 lbs. And they can run something like 80 to 120 mph. Also jedis can dominate you using mind bullets and logic bombs. Oh ya and they also excel at pole vaulting and keg stands People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair.
SmkJaguar Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Also in Ep I, Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were stuck in that room with concentrated poison gas, and survived (it's debatable how long they were stuck in there, but I'd say it was long enough to kill even the strongest of "normals"). Not only did they survive, they came out of the room with lightsabers swinging . [Edit] don't forget Yoda and the X-wing thing . [Edit2] also, although he wasn't a Jedi, Vader managed to stop Han's blaster bolts with his hand! Yoda did pretty much the same thing with What's-his-face's lightning bolts. [Edit3-I'm doing these as they come to mind-in case you haven't noticed ] The Emperor (who also was not a Jedi, but still runs along similar lines) managed to unlock Luke's manacles with a casual gesture. And Yoda can levitate (at least I'm pretty sure it's him levitating, rather than him using a levitating chair).
Zach Morris Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 I have a feeling that the what's his face lightning bolt grabber thingy force power will be in the game.
Master Jedi Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Darht vader as anakin had jedi training and anyhow palpatine and vader are sith which are just the other side of the coin from Jedi they aren't that different in abilities, except for force lightning and choke being used more often by the Sith
Carth Vader Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Luke used force jump in ROTJ to jump up to the catwalk and escape Vader.
DSLuke Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 That can be seen better in ESB when Vader tries to freeze Luke, but he force jumps. Impressive, most impressive. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
DarthRevan987 Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 For someone with little training Luke was actually not bad
Ameorn Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 For someone with little training Luke was actually not bad <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He was very good in my opinion. He was a selftrained jedi and became the most powerful one... Maybe because there weren't any others left, bu anywhooo "
Nur Ab Sal Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 I think that Luke was much more powerful than this lamer Anakin. With little training he was able to take down one of the most powerful sith lords ever! It's a shame that later EU potraited Luke as a weakling - it all began with Zahn and his Thrawn Trilogy where some stupid bitch Mara Jade (with attitude worse than Bastila's) was shown as Luke's "equal", although it is obvious that her command over Force is lame. That is one of things that make EU stupid HERMOCRATES: Nur Ab Sal was one such king. He it was, say the wise men of Egypt, who first put men in the colossus, making many freaks of nature at times when the celestial spheres were well aligned. SOCRATES: This I doubt. We are hearing a child's tale.
Nur Ab Sal Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Another interesting example of Jedi's power: Kyp Durron who, using his sheer will, was able to revert space vacuum in Borleias star system and destroy big part of Yuuzhan fleet. This one comes from Enemy Lines by great Aaron Allston And there's Kyle Katarn who slained thousands of stormies in single hand combat. Master of massive massacres! HERMOCRATES: Nur Ab Sal was one such king. He it was, say the wise men of Egypt, who first put men in the colossus, making many freaks of nature at times when the celestial spheres were well aligned. SOCRATES: This I doubt. We are hearing a child's tale.
Ameorn Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Man, i really got to read more SW novels... so much i don't know... and i'm the one who knows "everything" about SW according to my friends, mainly 'cause they only like the movies the rest is just BS to them...
213374U Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 It's pretty inconsistent that in the PT Jedi had to train with a Master for 20-25 years to become Knights, and Luke 'figured stuff out' in about 5 years, with just a few weeks to learn from Masters. Anyway, on to the topic. The supernova trick wasn't performed by sheer Force power. It was done through a Sith weapon that needed a Force user to channel Force energy through it. It wasn't Exar Kun, it was Naga Sadow and Aleema. I believe Jedi can use the Force to plot courses through hyperspace without the need for a computer. Don't remember where I read that though. The Emperor Force storms seemed pretty nasty, too. And of course, the uber-lame Force link severing on another Force sensitive. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Ameorn Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 I believe Jedi can use the Force to plot courses through hyperspace without the need for a computer. Don't remember where I read that though. You're probably right, considering the fact that the Rakata could travel the way they did because of the force. So i think you're right about that.
starwarskid15_19 Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 i read in the courtship of princess leia taht luke held himself another person and a ship in the air while falling down in the air. i think i heard somewhere that leia could use battle meditation and they can put people in a healing trance thats more useful than bacta sometimes. the force is what gives a jedi his power. its an energy field created by all living things. it surrounds us and penetrates us. it binds the galaxy together
DSLuke Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Luke Skywalker was the mosyt powerful because he rarely used his awesome command of the Force to break out of difficult situations. But I'm pretty sure that if he had no another means of doing something when he could pretty much do anything he wanted with the Force. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
Nur Ab Sal Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 It's pretty inconsistent that in the PT Jedi had to train with a Master for 20-25 years to become Knights, and Luke 'figured stuff out' in about 5 years, with just a few weeks to learn from Masters. No it's completely consistent. You see prequel Jedi practiced social engineering and were very fascist and family-unfriendly in their beliefs. Thus they threw Force into the imbalance. Force then created a Chosen One who wiped them out. Official Site stated that Force diminished in those late Jedi and that's why they were so weak and were dying so often on the battlefields. On the other hand, Luke Skywalker proved them that they were wrong in everything. He tapped in love and family life - and it only made him stronger, he began his training late and become better Jedi than Yoda, Windu and other lamers. His pupils like Corran Horn or Jacen are wiser, more powerful and natural than artificial PT jedi losers, although they do not seek guidance of some stinking Jedi Council. Remember how Windu said in Shatterpoint that Jedi are against nature? Well Force is fabric of nature and that's why force abandoned them. New Jedi are on the contrary cooperating with nature and that's why they are stronger. Yuuzhan War was bloodiest war in galactic history and yet New Jedi Order managed better than Yoda's gang (which believed in social engineering like Hitler's SS) during Clone Wars A buddy of mine from The Force.Net boards made this fine comment about prequel Jedi (HERE): I tend to think that Lucas intented us to be dissapointed by the PT Jedi. It looks like the Order has had little important business the last thousand years and turned inwards in a constand reshaping of it's codes and customs slowly working its way to becoming a monastic order that wouldn't recognize the will of the Force if it punched them on the face. They drop like flies in the AOTC battle and seem to be more interested in etiquette and protocol than people who are 'connected to the Force'. The knights of the New Republic have had a rough time. Nothing like the well protected PT Jedi who solve trading disputes and look important in their clean robes and pretty starfighters and the like. I think that the whole point of PT is that the Jedi have 'fallen from grace' in a way. Oh yeah that's how it is. Typical Jedi apprentice from Luke's academy is more skilled and better in commanding the Force than most of prequel stucked jedi masters. Just look at battle of Jabiim: 18 jedi masters were slained by local partisans and a bunch of droids! I believe Jedi can use the Force to plot courses through hyperspace without the need for a computer. Don't remember where I read that though. It was Saesse Tiin. HERMOCRATES: Nur Ab Sal was one such king. He it was, say the wise men of Egypt, who first put men in the colossus, making many freaks of nature at times when the celestial spheres were well aligned. SOCRATES: This I doubt. We are hearing a child's tale.
DSLuke Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Well the PT had to be made in a such a way so that their failure with the SIth (Palpatine) could be justified. Nevertheless the New Jedi Knights trainned by Skywalker were the best Jedi ever. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
Nur Ab Sal Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Of course! New Jedi Knights are more similar to ancient Jedi like Nomi Sunrider or Revan than to Prequel Fascists. HERMOCRATES: Nur Ab Sal was one such king. He it was, say the wise men of Egypt, who first put men in the colossus, making many freaks of nature at times when the celestial spheres were well aligned. SOCRATES: This I doubt. We are hearing a child's tale.
DSLuke Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Were ancient Jedi allowed to love? And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
213374U Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Yep. They were allowed to love, and have children. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
DSLuke Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 Then who was the idiot Jedi who decided otherwise and when? And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
Nur Ab Sal Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 George Lucas decided so in idiotic Phantom Menace crap that contradicted EU vision of the Jedi. Later lamers from Bioware adapted some rules of prequel Jedi and presented them in KOTOR - that's why KOTOR is wrong. 4000 years ago Jedi had children and mates and there were entire Jedi clans (Qel-Droma clan, Diath clan, Sunrider clan etc) HERMOCRATES: Nur Ab Sal was one such king. He it was, say the wise men of Egypt, who first put men in the colossus, making many freaks of nature at times when the celestial spheres were well aligned. SOCRATES: This I doubt. We are hearing a child's tale.
DSLuke Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 ok thanx for the info. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom
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