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22 hours ago, rjshae said:

Katie Zacharia out as White House press secretary

Well that didn't last long. I thought stinky promised to staff with the best and brightest?

I felt a little sorry for her

Her first press conference was an absolute; disaster but she would have got better with time

But Trump can't afford anymore scandals and she misrepresented her lawyers qualification and didn't have much understanding of geopolitics

And now before the midterms is not the time for her to learn and all she was doing was getting negative media attention

What I found more hilarious is Leavitt getting a job at FOX after saying she was leaving the WH to focus on being a mother 😝

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

4 hours ago, BruceVC said:

I felt a little sorry for her

Her first press conference was an absolute; disaster but she would have got better with time

But Trump can't afford anymore scandals and she misrepresented her lawyers qualification and didn't have much understanding of geopolitics

And now before the midterms is not the time for her to learn and all she was doing was getting negative media attention

What I found more hilarious is Leavitt getting a job at FOX after saying she was leaving the WH to focus on being a mother 😝

$200k in year is quite high salary for intern. Usually such positions come with expection that person is at least bit familiar with the job.

Alberta rejects a move toward independence from Canada in a victory for Carney

Voters in Canada’s oil-rich Alberta province overwhelmingly backed remaining in Canada, with early referendum results Tuesday delivering a boost to Prime Minister Mark Carney's push for national unity amid U.S. President Donald Trump's trade war and annexation threats.

Didn't that entire "independence" movement seem driven by a Trumpian oil company agenda? I mean, an independent Alberta could be environmentally exploited by big oil to extract every last drop of petroleum without oversight from the Canadian government. Alberta could have ended up like Venezuela with a puppet government run by the US. Well good on them for sticking with our friends to the north.

Edited by rjshae

"Can't sleep the drones will kill me."

50 minutes ago, rjshae said:

Alberta rejects a move toward independence from Canada in a victory for Carney

Didn't that entire "independence" movement seem driven by a Trumpian oil company agenda? I mean, an independent Alberta could be environmentally exploited by big oil to extract every last drop of petroleum without oversight from the Canadian government. Alberta could have ended up like Venezuela with a puppet government run by the US. Well good on them for sticking with our friends to the north.

current canada regime are pro oligarch too

just much less crude about it

The long ruling party in Serbia lost the elections convincingly. No one expected it to be that much of a difference. Now we see how and if our foreign policies change.

"because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP

Bolsonaro lost, apparently he refuses to concede though.

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

His dad never conceded either; far right are hardly the most graceful losers.

8 hours ago, Sarex said:

The long ruling party in Serbia lost the elections convincingly. No one expected it to be that much of a difference. Now we see how and if our foreign policies change.

Its a fascinating outcome and its surprising how very little global attention this election got

What really surprised me is the student movement was started by the corruption and mishandling of the Novi Sad train station disaster in 2024

Im concerned the student movement has no defined leaders and no political experience but lets wait and see how things unfold

They do have a 11 point manifesto so that's something they can focus on. But this must be the first time I can ever recall that this type of grassroots movement has won an election so quickly. Its more about overall issues around corruption and inefficiency with Vucic but its an impressive and unexpected election outcome

"The elected MPs will have the task of fulfilling what is in effect a manifesto.

In the words of the students themselves, they were looking for people who could enter institutions "do their jobs responsibly and not forget why they are there".

Under an 11-point programme, the student movement wants to:

  • Eradicate corruption by forming a police unit to arrest those responsible for it

  • Purge officials in the internal affairs ministry of anyone who broke rules on cracking down on protesters, or anyone linked to organised crime

  • Reform Serbia's skewed media scene and free the public broadcaster of political control

  • Stop recruiting party loyalists to head public enterprises.

Vučić and the SNS party deny corruption and seeking to influence the media."

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

The difference was too big and the party leader conceded before the results were out. He was preparing for conflict in case the results were close, but he lost by 13%.

The big scare is that the ones pulling the strings for this winning party are the powers from the west.

"because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP

1 hour ago, Sarex said:

The difference was too big and the party leader conceded before the results were out. He was preparing for conflict in case the results were close, but he lost by 13%.

The big scare is that the ones pulling the strings for this winning party are the powers from the west.

Yes but its foundation was because of the Novi Sad train station disaster which was only 2 years ago

Its the first time I have ever heard of any outrage protest creating a political party that ends up winning an election

The normal reason for most protests is based on established party ideology and what they already believe or its just about raising issues

This is something truly unique and impressive. Its too early to say how successful they will be but its definitely something unexpected

I typically dismiss these types of student protests because of how inconsistent and unrealistic there demands are in countries like South Africa and the USA. But here we seeing an election being won because of something that students started

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

11 hours ago, Sarex said:

The big scare is that the ones pulling the strings for this winning party are the powers from the west.

Hmm. Skeptical there. A decade or so ago, for sure. But the west was largely working fine with Vucic- eg he was selling them weaponry/ ammo to send to Ukraine.

Given the state of things now though, I'd question whether the collective west wants a populist challenge to anyone nearby. Too much potential for contagion in distinctly pro west Albania. Or France. Or Spain. Gotta protect that neolib status quo; Euro Forbid we end up with Le Pen in France or even worse, Mélenchon instead of some slimy photogenic vacuum like Macron.

Ironic though, all the assurances and assertions that Vucic and Orban were quasi dictators who'd do anything to hold onto power and... well. Both gone, quietly. Pretty much sums up the current state of media.

Either way the new goverment will need the active support of the people to make any headway in changing anything that matters. Vucic was able to integrate in every level of power that exists in the country and even though he lost the people still remain in those positions of power. Ministers will be changed but that won't matter much if they can't control the institutions they are in charge of.

I predict a lot of chaos in the short term, but am still cautiously optimistic that there will be some change.

"because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP

10 hours ago, Zoraptor said:

Hmm. Skeptical there. A decade or so ago, for sure. But the west was largely working fine with Vucic- eg he was selling them weaponry/ ammo to send to Ukraine.

Given the state of things now though, I'd question whether the collective west wants a populist challenge to anyone nearby. Too much potential for contagion in distinctly pro west Albania. Or France. Or Spain. Gotta protect that neolib status quo; Euro Forbid we end up with Le Pen in France or even worse, Mélenchon instead of some slimy photogenic vacuum like Macron.

Ironic though, all the assurances and assertions that Vucic and Orban were quasi dictators who'd do anything to hold onto power and... well. Both gone, quietly. Pretty much sums up the current state of media.

Im not sure what " quasi dictators " means. Orban was worse than Vucic but he was limited in how he could undermine free and fair elections because Hungary was part of the EU. But neither country was like Russia, both countries did have free and fair elections which is why you seeing legitimate political change. Thats why Putin and other autocracies will never allow free and fair elections, they cant take the chance of losing an election even if they could win fairly

7 hours ago, Sarex said:

Either way the new goverment will need the active support of the people to make any headway in changing anything that matters. Vucic was able to integrate in every level of power that exists in the country and even though he lost the people still remain in those positions of power. Ministers will be changed but that won't matter much if they can't control the institutions they are in charge of.

I predict a lot of chaos in the short term, but am still cautiously optimistic that there will be some change.

There are several Serbs on Codex discussing this outcome and its been fascinating for me because this is the RL opinions of Serbs living in Serbia who voted

The one guy supported the Student party to the point of being involved in fund raising and helping with transport at various rallies. He has rejected any suggestion that this movement was somehow funded and controlled by the deep state\EU\USAID which is the expected comments how some people dismiss this outcome

He is pro-Serbia but not anti-Russian or anti-EU but his biggest concern and motivation was the structural corruption and inefficiency that existed under Vucic

This is a new party with bold but achievable aspirations and political objectives , We need to give them time. I would say wait 2 years to assess the outcomes?

But its good to be cautiously optimistic. As I mentioned I still think its an incredible outcome and unique in modern Democracies that was started from outrage protests

This type of political change obviously requires commitment and support from enough citizens to make a voting difference. That's whats missing from protests in other countries like USA or South Africa , not enough people agree with the reasons people are protesting about or some of the protesters are not sincere about the issue themselves and that reflects how they decide to vote

In Serbia it was much simpler and enough citizens were united. But that doesnt mean this cant happen in other countries, you just need to find the significant issues that unite people on the ground

Edited by BruceVC

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

Considering the views on Israel's ostensible global influence this Israeli election should be getting more attention

Arab parties make up 16 seats in the Knesset and since no landslide victory or majority is predicted for either main party\coalition these Arab parties will become kingmakers

Huge political changes could be coming to Israel and I think many people are underestimating the significance of this election

I was watching on CNN how many Israelis living in other countries are flying back just to vote. They interviewed a large group from the USA who will be voting for change and the opposition block

This election also has the highest voter turnout in 50 years

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/27/world/live-news/israel-elections-live-results-latest-votes-intl

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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