The All Things Political Topic - What's Going On...?

[Malcador]

Look at what the poor IDF was forced to do.

[Zoraptor]

Kind of weird watching a news report from our state broadcaster yesterday where they didn't use 'according to the Hamas run health ministry' but did mention western media being banned from Gaza by Israel. It had been nearly two years of steadfastly refusing to acknowledge exactly why there was never any corroboration of anything from western journalists on the ground so they had to- had to- both sides everything no matter how obvious the truth was. Guess they realised there was simply no way to spin emaciated children and flattened cities as being precise and humanitarian action by the only democracy in the ME any more.

[Lexx]

They could always just not talk about it. I guess major goals were achieved and something has changed that we don't know about. /conspiracy 

[Malcador]

3 hours ago, Zoraptor said:

Guess they realised there was simply no way to spin emaciated children and flattened cities as being precise and humanitarian action by the only democracy in the ME any more.

Nah can be done. The hasbara crowd seems to give :

• The UN's fault (and they are all compromised by Hamas) for blocking the GHF somehow
• The footage is lies and that was battle damage against terror infrastructure (I still laugh at terror tunnels)
• The emaciated kids had pre-existing illnesses and the anti-semitic media is to blame.
• Hamas' fault all this happened, so.

Mostly just "la la la I can't hear you" type stuff, I concede.

Edited 11 hours ago by Malcador

[rjshae]

1 hour ago, Malcador said:

Nah can be done. The hasbara crowd seems to give :

• The UN's fault (and they are all compromised by Hamas) for blocking the GHF somehow
• The footage is lies and that was battle damage against terror infrastructure (I still laugh at terror tunnels)
• The emaciated kids had pre-existing illnesses and the anti-semitic media is to blame.
• Hamas' fault all this happened, so.

Mostly just "la la la I can't hear you" type stuff, I concede.

There's another side to this: Eygpt is not allowing in refugees from Gaza. This is despite Eygpt being a signatory to the Geneva Convention of July 28, 1951. Populating Gaza refugee camps outside the war zone would remediate much of the starvation. Where's the international pressure on Eygpt?

[uuuhhii]

egypt didn't get enough bribe from usa to handle this mess

only one actually did something useful to stop all the atrocity are yemen

another pathetic chapter of human history

[Zoraptor]

There is no international obligation to aid in ethnic cleansing though. Everyone knows that if Palestinians go anywhere outside of Palestine they'll never be allowed back and will be there permanently- we've got nearly 80 years of history demonstrating that fact. 

Doesn't matter anyway, it's an existential matter for Sisi and no matter what is offered or what his theoretical obligations might have been he cannot accept it. It's hard enough keeping the lid on sympathy for the Palestinians without being seen to obviously and actively aid the policies of Netanyahu, Ben Gvir and Smotrich against his own country's interests. He'd get Sadat'ed by someone in the military, and be extremely lucky if that was all he got since a lot of his population would happily Gaddafi him instead.

2 hours ago, Malcador said:

Mostly just "la la la I can't hear you" type stuff, I concede.

Yeah, no credible way to spin it, instead of no way at all.

Of course there's been no credible way to spin a lot of stuff that Israel has done but that hasn't stopped their rubbish being reported without pointing out that it's rubbish, until now.

[BruceVC]

7 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

egypt didn't get enough bribe from usa to handle this mess

only one actually did something useful to stop all the atrocity are yemen

another pathetic chapter of human history

Oh yes, the Houthis

There random bombing of cargo  ships in the Red Sea has made a huge difference to Israel's  imprudent military strategy since 7 October 

Maybe the Houthis should join BRICS, that will definitely  be more significant