Constentin Lévine Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) In first view, the Foosteps of the beast appears as good but not more than. The icy patch left when walking that hobbles ennemies is a kind of auto-attack : that cant crit or miss, excepted vs dexterity resistance. When walking, the hobbled attack seems happening few times per second. (you can see that aginst dex resistant ennemies) This auto-attack trigger Experimentation from the Ring of Clenched Muscle (10%,chance to apply a tier1 affliction), Spirit Frenzy (staggered on hit), and the Spider's Escape from the Seeker's Fang (wizard). But also Nimbus of Death from the Heart-chime Amulet (Death godlike) and Boar's Strength from Survivor's Tusks (Spiritshifed druid) and the Fire Blight from the Belt of Magran's Chosen. While confused, that trigger on the wearer, on top of the previous things, the Winter's touch from the Horns of the Auroch (10% freeze lash with weapons), Experimentation and Test Subject from the mentionned ring (but this last can remove the confuse effect) another confusing effect if Perplexing Sapped, and, when a self dex resistance, Boar's determination from Survivor Tusk (Priest). This is very nice to get a free-moving wizard (Spider's escape). Maybe there is others good combinaisons with the Footseps of the Beast I didnt find. And maybe a way to turn this into damages, for exemple if the icy patch trigger something that can crit, well the Blood Frenzy will apply potentially a new damage tick few time per second. * The Frosball enchantment Blessed by the Void effectively apply to ennemies an affliction that can crit when the wearer hit itself with the boots, but with only 25%chance and the effect is no applied to an already "blessed" ennemy (I think). (I thought wrongly) This last can inflict like a cascade some effects that can also crit : Shattering Head (AoE from Frostfall), Slow Grind (High Harbinger's Robes), Zandethus's Draconic Fury , Blood Frenzy and Avenging Storm. That apply also the Sysifo's stone. In the capture below, I didnt "attack" Birta or anyone else, just peacefully walked around. But this is not a damaging icy patch, rather than a self repeated affliction optimisation. I didnt find a better way for a damaging icy patch. Does somebody have an idea? Edited December 21, 2021 by Constentin Lévine In the damaging icy patch chapter 2
Not So Clever Hound Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Constentin Lévine said: Does somebody have an idea? Nice! A confused Zerker/Forbidden Fist can Hobble himself and heal very quickly from walking back and forth (not super super useful). However this got me experimenting with the Crimson Panoply: it can be enchanted to trigger Blood or Spirit Frenzy on the wielder when he's been crit. I don't know if this was already known, but this effect can stack with other Frenzy effects. So for example with wielding Lover's Embrace, you can have Frenzy (Lover's Quarrel) + Blood Storm + Spirit Frenzy (Crimson Panoply) active at the same time! Of course the STR/CON inspirations get overriden, but the specific effects of Blood (Raw DoT) and Spirit (Stagger) and the 3 action speed buffs do stack. Pretty cool. On the minus side, the Deflection debuffs also stack.. EDIT: also I never paid attention but the Optimistic Presence buff from The Crimson Panoply can be relatively good: with high Survival you can get to a >60 points damage shield on the entire party for 30+ seconds. Edited December 21, 2021 by Not So Clever Hound
Constentin Lévine Posted December 21, 2021 Author Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Not So Clever Hound said: A confused Zerker/Forbidden Fist can Hobble himself and heal very quickly from walking back and forth (not super super useful). In fact, no, even with 35 resolves, the potion, the clarity of agony ect, you cant alone make this exploit. You need to reduce the Hobbled effect to 0.1s for that, then you constantly clear and refresh the hobble status. But you can with a Fast Switching Shield Darcozzi Paladin and the Outworn shield on your side. Then you get an very potent self Forbidden Fist healing. The optimist presence buff is provided to ennemies also if you are before confused, that is why I dont pick this enchantment with a berserker or a confused character The frostfall enchantment Blessed by the Void is weapon type, and can trigger the other enchantment Shaterring Head (AoE freeze/pierce damages), also weapon type, both triggering Avenging Storm and Blood Frenzy (on crit) when you just walk Edited December 21, 2021 by Constentin Lévine 1 1
Not So Clever Hound Posted December 21, 2021 Posted December 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, Constentin Lévine said: The frostfall enchantment Blessed by the Void is weapon type, and can trigger the other enchantment Shaterring Head (AoE freeze/pierce damages), also weapon type, both triggering Avenging Storm and Blood Frenzy (on crit) when you just walk Ah nice. then it should also work with a Barb/FF walking on any hazard aoe with pulsing affliction and friendly fire, right? 32 minutes ago, Constentin Lévine said: The optimist presence buff is provided to ennemies also if you are before confused, that is why I dont pick this enchantment with a berserker or a confused character Yeah sorry I meant not with a Zerker. 32 minutes ago, Constentin Lévine said: In fact, no, even with 35 resolves, the potion, the clarity of agony ect, you cant alone to do this exploit. You need to reduce the Hobbled effect to 0.1s for that, then you constantly clear and refresh the hobble status. But you can with a Fast Switching Shield Darcozzi Paladin and the Outworn shield on your side. Then you get an very potent self Forbidden Fist healing. Yeah I didn't do enough testing, I just saw the duration being about 1-2 sec on a low INT high RES Zerker/FF and the heal happen a couple times but not very often, reason why I said it wasn't useful. I don't know how the icy patch duration is working, as it doesn't appear in the tooltip. Good call about the outworn buckler!
Constentin Lévine Posted December 21, 2021 Author Posted December 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Not So Clever Hound said: Ah nice. then it should also work with a Barb/FF walking on any hazard aoe with pulsing affliction and friendly fire, right? Yes ! 3 minutes ago, Not So Clever Hound said: I don't know how the icy patch duration is working, as it doesn't appear in the tooltip. Yes, this is why I said "you can see it against a dex resistant ennemy", or yourself with a resistant while confused : on top of the character appears Hobbled in cascade, same for damages numbers. 1
Constentin Lévine Posted December 22, 2021 Author Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Not So Clever Hound said: I don't know how the icy patch duration is working, as it doesn't appear in the tooltip. Finally I found an answer , assuming his mechanic is the same than Pollen Patch, basically. Pollen patch is my favorite "Least Unstable Coil's spell" by the way. Edited December 22, 2021 by Constentin Lévine 1
Not So Clever Hound Posted December 22, 2021 Posted December 22, 2021 Brilliant, thanks. I think you’re assumption that they work in similar ways (although positive vs negative) is very reasonable. But you never know with Deadfire . By the way, the French translation of the game cracks me up I mean it looks great and thorough but carré pollinifère sounds like you’re a biologist in a real life experiment to foster plant diversity or whatever. Pollen patch sounds a lot more simple .
Constentin Lévine Posted December 22, 2021 Author Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) I'm completely agree with you, for this reason I had some reticence (before I tried it) to pick the spell on SC druid. And "Pollen Patch" makes you think to bees and bumblebees, it is more attractive and druidy than Carré Pollinifère. Otherwise, the french translation is really good, and for a lot of stuffs I find this last more impacting than the english original versions. (Volonté Brisée sound better than Fractured Volition, because of musicale harmony) I tried to proc the FF healing with a FF-debonaire, walking on the limit of the Cowardice effect, but that didnt work. Cowardice is listed as Hostile effect, but it is not a truly Hostile one. Too bad. Edit: I tried also with Charged Field (Thundercrack Pistol) as hostile effect, didnt work too. Maybe Conditionnals Hostiles effects are like passives hostiles effects. Edited December 22, 2021 by Constentin Lévine 1
Boeroer Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) Using Bark String (pet, -20% DEX affl. duration) in addition to Clarity of Agony (-50% hostile effect duration), min INT (3 base + evtl. +2 B's Blessing -4 Confused - might as well wear Ring of Mule's Wit, -45% duration), max RES (like -45% at 25 RES), Strand of Favor (-10%), Outworn Buckler (-5%), Cabalist's Gambeson (-10%) and on top Mohorā Wraps (-30%) as food should make it possible to reduce the Hobbled effect so much that a Berserker/FF could gain tons of wounds/healing from running into their own frost drop traps without having to switch weapon sets like crazy? Or still not short enough? I remember a vid (when FF came out) where somebody did make a Berserker/FF with Footsteps of the Beast and figuratively drowned in wounds. I don't recall him using every trick in the book to reduce hostile effect duration - just running back and forth a bit in/out of the drop traps was enough. Edited December 23, 2021 by Boeroer 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Waski Posted December 23, 2021 Posted December 23, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 9:41 AM, Constentin Lévine said: I tried to proc the FF healing with a FF-debonaire, walking on the limit of the Cowardice effect, but that didnt work. Cowardice is listed as Hostile effect, but it is not a truly Hostile one. Too bad I think for FF healing hostile effect has to have duration.
masterty66 Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 These boots seem like they'd be nice with a Barbarian who can make themselves immune to engagements. Pop ram or lion sprint and then run around the battlefield hobbling everything. When it wears off, bash as normal. I could see the following strategy: 1) Priest cast hand of weal and woe on the Barbarian 2) Barb pops lion/ram sprint 3) Jog around the battlefield laughing as the beam and hobble affects everyone
dgray62 Posted December 24, 2021 Posted December 24, 2021 A warlock could do this, simply by casting Deleterious Alacrity of Motion, since swift makes you immune to engagement. 1
Constentin Lévine Posted December 27, 2021 Author Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 8:43 PM, dgray62 said: A warlock could do this, simply by casting Deleterious Alacrity of Motion, since swift makes you immune to engagement. But Hobbled from the confused Footsteps remove the Swift inspiration ; this is why the barbarian sprint is really good, it is swift in separate package. As a warlock soulbind with Seeker's fang, you get permanently an immunity to engagement while confused, or when hit ennemies with the footsteps in other hand. 1
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