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I'm considering making a sage for my next Deadfire playthrough and wanted some help. Currently I'm torn between three ideas, 1) a 2-hander Shattered Pillar that uses Citzal's Spirit Lance (WotEP and Willbreaker as backup weapons), a Nalpazca dual wielder that uses Modwyr + something else, or a Forbidden Fist that uses the exploit for infinite Draining Touch. Are there any items in particular I should look out for and any trap abilities I should avoid?


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Swift Flurry doesn't work with the Forbidden Fist Ability - so maybe you shouldn't pick that when using Forbidden Fist but take Lightning Strikes instead. Draining Touch doesn't profit from any "unarmed" passives like Transcendent Sufferig etc. But Miasma + Dazzling Lights (-50 Will) are your friends when using Draining Touch (targets Will instead of Deflection).

Shattered Pillar only has 5 wounds max which limits the INT-boost from Turning Wheel to 5. Which is a pity when using Citzal's SL - since its AoE would grow with more INT. However, Shattered Pillar with WotEP and Wizard's defensive buffs can be great if you pick Offensive Parry (NOT Blade Form) as enchantment: every miss of an enemy triggers Offensive Parry which generates wounds for the Shattered Pillar(!). It also works with Swift Flurry by the way. You can even stack tons of bonuses against disengagement attacks (Graceful Retreat + Tumbling + Fleet Feet + Boots of Speed + Gipon Pridensco and so on) and then disengage intentionally - you will be unhittable and trigger lots of Offensive Parries, giving you wounds (and dealing damage). Also nice in combo with Combusting Wounds. Also all kinds of spells that reduce enemies' accuracy help enormously (Chillfog, Miasma etc.).

I played a Shattered Pillar/Soulblade recently (for double resource generation on every Offensive Parry) and the wound generation was great and happens "on the fly". 


Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods

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I mostly want to use Forbidden Fist with Draining Touch for thematic reasons and consistent Con afflictions tbh, I wasn't expecting it to scale with unarmed abilities else it'd be as broken as the Woedica spiritual weapon used to be.

I'm going to use the Community Patch, and I believe that it raises wound limit to 10 for Shattered Pillar. Does WotEP work with Instruments of Pain in the same way Citzal's Spirit Lance?


"Take your child murderin' god and shove his him up his own ass."-Volorun

 

"...the vote of a black redhead disabled homosexual transsexual Jew should probably be worth the same as at least a hundred white heterosexual Christians."-Rostere

 

"i can think of many women i would gladly sleep with, but not a single one that i would want as a girlfriend/wife... neither real nor fictional."-teknoman2

 

"I'm all for killing dogs in film." - algroth

 

"Iselmyr is the one who did GOMAD... Aloth is lactose intolerant" -ShadySands

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No, unfortunately the cone of WotEP will stay in melee (originates from player) while the initial attack will have the increased range. It can have it's merits but in general that's not the best combo.

If you are using Community Patch then Shattered Pillar is fine. Just save before you consider Lesser Wounds: afaik it resets the wound limit to 5 again. Maybe it got fixed in between. Can't say. Unfortunately @MaxQuest and @Phenomenum seem to have abandoned this forum. :(

with Community Patch Forbidden Fist is also a proper weapon attack and thus works with Swift Flurry.

 

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Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods

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Huh, guess I'll have to avoid Lesser Wounds then. Thanks for your help.


"Take your child murderin' god and shove his him up his own ass."-Volorun

 

"...the vote of a black redhead disabled homosexual transsexual Jew should probably be worth the same as at least a hundred white heterosexual Christians."-Rostere

 

"i can think of many women i would gladly sleep with, but not a single one that i would want as a girlfriend/wife... neither real nor fictional."-teknoman2

 

"I'm all for killing dogs in film." - algroth

 

"Iselmyr is the one who did GOMAD... Aloth is lactose intolerant" -ShadySands

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Maybe save before leveling up and try it out.

Might be it got fixed, I don't know for sure.

Edit: I just fired it up and did a quick console check: it's still the case. So yeah, best to stay away from Lesser Wounds as a Shattered Pillar when using the Community Patch.

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