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Sup All  :dancing:

 

Please give me advice on what card is preferable or has good features for gaming, obviously money is not necessarily a factor for choice 

 

  1. https://www.wootware.co.za/asus-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-turbo-gtx1080ti-11g-11gb-gddr5x-352-bit-pci-e-3-0-desktop-graphics-card.html
  2. https://www.wootware.co.za/amd-radeon-firepro-wx-7100-8gb-gddr5-256-bit-pci-e-3-0-workstation-graphics-card.html
  3. https://www.wootware.co.za/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-sc2-gaming-11g-p4-6593-kr-11gb-gddr5x-352-bit-pci-e-3-0-desktop-graphics-card-includes-nvidia-be-the-hero-promo-for-honor-or-tom-clancy-s-ghost-recon-wildlands.html
  4. https://www.evetech.co.za/msi-radeon-rx-vega-64-air-boost-8gb-hbm2-oc-graphics-card/best-deal/4225.aspx
  5. https://www.evetech.co.za/gigabyte-gtx-1080-ti-gaming-oc-11gb-graphics-card/best-deal/4546.aspx
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If money is not a consideration (and you don't need it tomorrow) and using your own links for stores then grab one of the RTX 2080s

 

https://www.wootware.co.za/computer-hardware/video-cards-video-devices/shopby/nvidia/geforce_rtx_2080_ti

https://www.evetech.co.za/PC-Components/buy-nvidia-geforce-gtx-graphics-cards-47.aspx

 

See this thread for more

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If money is not a consideration (and you don't need it tomorrow) and using your own links for stores then grab one of the RTX 2080s

 

https://www.wootware.co.za/computer-hardware/video-cards-video-devices/shopby/nvidia/geforce_rtx_2080_ti

https://www.evetech.co.za/PC-Components/buy-nvidia-geforce-gtx-graphics-cards-47.aspx

 

See this thread for more

I did see this card, it looks good....Im just not sure I can wait :)

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

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What shady said, if you've got krugerands to blow, and don't care about price/performance value, just buy the most expensive 2080 ti you can find.

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https://www.wootware.co.za/amd-radeon-pro-vega-frontier-edition-air-cooled-16gb-hbm2-2048-bit-pci-e-3-0-workstation-graphics-card.html

 

 

Guys what do you think of this card ?

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It's AMDs workstation card, not for gaming.

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It's AMDs workstation card, not for gaming.

 

Thanks, that was the type of commentary I appreciate so I dont waste time on this type of card :) 

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What's your screen resolution, and what sort of computer is going to get the new card?

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Sup all :dancing:

 

Vega 64 ROG Strix for 900NZD (600USD*/ 500 Euro) yes or no? Yeah, it has crap memory cooling which is about the most cardinal of cardinal sins for Vega and my Strix 580 sounds like a hairdryer under load even in a sound dampening case, but that price is effectively 50 ameribux equivalent less than it is on Amazon/ Newegg and comes with three** free games. I did plan to buy Vega if it got to roughly MSRP which that is, but that was a year ago. OTOH, a 580 struggles with 34" widescreen on anything demanding and Navi is still a decent time away...

 

*500USD, -GST, so basically ref Vega MSRP

**Though I suspect two will be steam keys so irrelevant to me.

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I dunno, how is that thing going to cope with 3440X1440 at 100fps? Like at all...

 

In Witcher 3, for instance, my 980ti has trouble maintaining 60fps at that res. What do you play that is demanding?

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Yep. Samsung C34F791 3440x1440 100hz.

 

If you can't wait I would say go for it, although I abhor loud coolers.

 

Btw how do you like the curve on the monitor. I never had a curved one because it always seemed gimmicky to me and you lose straight lines.

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I can probably tweak the fan curve, sound isn't a massive issue with headphones. 90% of the time it's completely silent and cools passively, if it's above 50 degrees it's pretty much on full revs but as a result it barely scrapes above 60 degrees even when it's being thrashed. I'd assume the Vega version would be similar. It's still quieter than the Intel stock cooler I had up until a year ago though, it's just super jarring when the computer is usually completely silent.

 

I like the monitor and doubt I could go back now. I thought it was gimmicky too initially but things like straight lines work fine when you're used to it- I'd suspect a non curved ultrawide would have problems there anyway since there's a decent difference in distance to the eye from centre to edge. It did have some teething problems but it's working fine now.

 

I dunno, how is that thing going to cope with 3440X1440 at 100fps? Like at all...

 

That's what freesync is for, essentially. Even a 1080Ti will struggle getting 4k/60 on many games, but if you've got adaptive sync the reduced frame rates have a lot less effect. Vega64 is roughly 1080 level performance so a decent amount faster than a 980Ti- if a 980Ti gives 60fps a Vega ought to give around 80. I also hate some of the more demanding gimmick sfx and would turn them off anyway.

 

I wouldn't try running TW3 on the 580 at that res though except on medium settings. It copes with Kingdom Come Deliverance, just, and actually does pretty well on Mass Effect Andromeda but TWitcher3 has too many gimpworks features baked in to do well on AMD.

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Hi All

 

Thanks for the advice, I am going to wait for the release of the RTX 2080's   below and then I also need to upgrade my MB and Monitor. The RTX will be released in about 1 month in SA  :geek:

 

https://www.evetech.co.za/components/nvidia-ati-graphics-cards-21.aspx

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Reviews are starting to come out. According to Gamers Nexus (review link) the 2080 really isn't worth it for the price, a 1080ti is virtually identical with games and should cost much less.

 

RTX as anyone can imagine is pure marketing for now considering how many games use it, how much different is graphically and the burden on hardware.

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Reviews are starting to come out. According to Gamers Nexus (review link) the 2080 really isn't worth it for the price, a 1080ti is virtually identical with games and should cost much less.

 

RTX as anyone can imagine is pure marketing for now considering how many games use it, how much different is graphically and the burden on hardware.

Interesting, this is relevant to me personally and any investment in superfluous hardware 

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Yeah, for absolute performance money no object it would be 2080Ti, but with at least some consideration given to top end value it would be the 1080Ti. For top end power performance balance a 2nd hand 1080Ti from someone upgrading to rtx would be even better.

 

2080 non Ti on the other hand... would not touch even if I wouldn't rather dissolve myself slowly in aqua regia to a Celine Dion greatest hits soundtrack than contribute to Jensen's leather jacket fund. 0% conventional performance increase for 25% extra cost plus possible dead end tech that will be superceded by a 7nm model next year is plain poor value. If Bruce does want a 1080Ti though he'd better get in quick, nVidia has stopped shipments to peripheral countries to drive 2080 sales.

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The RTX is still the best card moving forward but the reason we recommended it to you because you said money wasn't a consideration. If you want the best value then the new hotness is rarely the best choice and that's especially true in this case.

You right I did suggest money isnt a consideration, what I should have said is " money is not a problem but if I can get very similar overall performance and not pay as much them that is the preferred route "  :biggrin:

 

In SA  I think we are horribly overcharged, for example the MSI RTX 2080 Ti GAMING X TRIO OC will cost me $1800 in SA

 

What would you guys pay for this card?

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Okay, final update about what I intend to purchase , any final opinions would be much appreciated. I have some questions on which sound option I should buy ...headset or the actual card below

 

 

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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From just a quick scan at 4pm in the morning, the only thing I'd change would be to a Creative sound card and an aircooler.

Also, don't forget RAM.

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The new AMD Polaris 30 cards are rumored to be releasing soon. Nothing earth shattering here, they're just a refreshed 570 and a refreshed 580 with the same exact core counts and higher clock speeds. AMD still has nothing for Team Green in the high end, but these new cards should be good bargains in the $150-$300 mainstream market segment.

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Im picking up my new rig tomorrow, its going to be an epic gaming monster and Im super excited  :dancing:  :dancing:

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"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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