omgFIREBALLS Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) So the thing is, I'm really fond of mass tank parties with lots of healing available. Outlast anything. Except when I run into enemies that also have access to unlimited healing. While nothing in Deadfire has been able to beat me at outlasting, or reach a stalemate against me, I like to plan for the possibility that something in a DLC might. Therefore I am looking for ways to cause Sickened, Weakened or better yet, Enfeebled. Anything you know, mention it. I only got a chant on my list right now. Edited June 5, 2018 by omgFIREBALLS My Deadfire mods Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip. Waukeen's Berth: Make all your basic purchases at Queen's Berth. Carrying Voice: Wider chanter invocations. Nemnok's Congregation: Lets all priests express their true faith. Deadfire skill check catalogue right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunattic Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Bleak walker flames of devotion. One of the tier two wizard spells also causes weakened. Cant check for more atm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haplok Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Rogue Withering / Perishing Strike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Wizards and Druids have the most options. Sickened: Fetid Caress, Noxious Burst, R's Repulsive Visage, Vile Thorns Weakened: R's Enervating Terror, Spreading Plague, Wall of Thorns, Venombloom Probably more, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgFIREBALLS Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 Cheers! Am I correct in thinking that Bleak Walkers don't need to beat a fortitude check to land theirs? Anyone know of items that can do it? My Deadfire mods Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip. Waukeen's Berth: Make all your basic purchases at Queen's Berth. Carrying Voice: Wider chanter invocations. Nemnok's Congregation: Lets all priests express their true faith. Deadfire skill check catalogue right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esajin Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Here are those I can check in my save: Arquebus: Blightheart (from some swamp ruins in the swamp quest island) gives Blightshot, an ability that causes Weakened (-50% heal) Mace: Bardatto's Luxury (from the Bardatto bank I think) gives 5-10% chance to Sicken on hit Saber: Min's Fortune (from the Old City Ruins) gives a chance on crit to inflict a random affliction, so could be a Con one Flail: Skullcrusher: inflicts wounds on empower, could be a healing reduction wound Armor: Effigy's Husk: aura that reduces healing of enemies by 50% when wearer is bloodied, can be upgraded to inflict random afflictions on attacker when being critically hit ...aaaaand that's all I have. I might have missed a few 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMetaphysician Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Cipher Secret Horrors (PL 2 or 3): causes Sickened and Frightened. This is the main AoE debuff used in Sin Tee's Barbarian/Cipher Serafen build (on youtube). It fits really nicely with your theme of outlasting your opponent, since cipher resources (like chanter's) are renewable. Edited June 5, 2018 by TheMetaphysician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDubya Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Monks cause Weakened on a crit with Enfeebled Strikes or something like that. Power level five I think. Doesn't cost wounds or mortifications just need a crit and its not a chance either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunehunter Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 No one mentions the Chanter Phrase? That's the easiest ever ability to cause aoe weaken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMetaphysician Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 No one mentions the Chanter Phrase? That's the easiest ever ability to cause aoe weaken. OP said that was the only ability he already had on his list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climhazzard Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Monks and chanter's both can cause weakened passively, chanter's in an AoE with a phrase, Monk's with crits on their attacks. It should be kind of a no brainer for monks to take enervating blows if they use their active skills too because a lot of them target fortitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braven Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) Spreading Plague is an option. It gives weakness and hobbled which could help spell accuracy later. Either Priest (with subclass) or Druid can access it at tier 3 which is one of the likely classes you want anyway to outlast enemies. It has a huge range because it jumps 5 times with a 10m distance for each. It also hobbles for good measure. It only has a 15 second base duration, but it is considered a "poison" spell which means it benefits greatly from alchemy (not sure if this was changed in 1.1). Each point of alchemy adds 1 power level to the spell, which translates to 5% extra duration per point of alchemy. So, 20 alchemy buffs duration by 200%. I think "jumps" are also increased for every 2 power levels, so basically this hits every single enemy regardless of where they are. I don't really know how jump mechanics work. If you have 15 jumps and 5 enemies, can the same enemy get hit with it multiple times? If so, that could solve the accuracy issues. It does target fortitude which can be hard to hit, but I think most things that will cause weakened rolls against fortitude. It is considered "disease", which some enemies might be immune to (example: constructs, elementals, some undead), but those are not the ones self-healing anyway. I agree with others that chanter phrase is probably among the most effective. It is passive, decent size AOE, and keeps getting applied over and over so it is not a big deal if an accuracy roll misses.... and misses happen a lot in this game when it comes to spells. Particularly effective with brisk recitation since you can get the accuracy rolls twice as fast, if needed. Edited June 5, 2018 by Braven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgFIREBALLS Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 Cheers again. It seems I'll need to make very few adjustments considering my party is already 2 heralds and 3 crusaders. My Deadfire mods Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip. Waukeen's Berth: Make all your basic purchases at Queen's Berth. Carrying Voice: Wider chanter invocations. Nemnok's Congregation: Lets all priests express their true faith. Deadfire skill check catalogue right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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