Gromnir

Actually I think Gromnir said that no CRPG can feature true roleplaying because of the predetermined nature of even the most complexly written CRPG, unlike a PnP roleplaying campaign where the players are free to do quite literally whatever they want. It wasn't 'It doesn't matter whether or not they're an actual RPG as long as you're having fun.' so much as 'It doesn't matter whether or not they'r an actual RPG because no CRPG will even have true roleplaying and all of them just have greater and lesser roleplaying elements.' Also it'd be nice if you could come up with your own opinions rather than parroting what's already been said. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> actually, Gromnir were pointing out that argue over def of role-play is pointless. brought up fact that Gromnir's personal def of role-play would exclude every sp crpg on the market... but who cares? is you gonna convince us that we is wrong? am fully aware that many peoples disagree with Gromnir, but so what? why waste the effort... 'specially when regardless of what each person's personal notion o' roleplay is, we all seems to understand what developers of a particular title means. if bio or obsidian makes a crpg you gots a good notion o' what kinda game they is making. if blizzard makes an action crpg you likewise ain't gonna be surprised if it plays like diablo. in and of itself the role-play def is functionally meaningless. this is why we brought up the example of a developer claim of increased role-play features. nevertheless, given context it is a useful, if broad, product labeling device. is not worth arguing over the specific def of role-play. even so, we sees even respected developers wasting effort on such pointlessness. HA! Good Fun!

" Must've made you quite mad if you still remember everything in such detail... heh." or it could simply mean that Gromnir has a good memory, pretty shocking for somebody in our line of work, eh? ... feel free to imagine that we added a childish eye-rolling icon if you wish. HA! Good Fun!

people who argue over what is and is not role-play in a sp crpg deserves whatever misfortune eventually befalls 'em. you know what kinda game you is gonna be getting if you buys an action-crpg, or a western crpg, or a japanese-crpg. is genre labels to helps the consumer, so who freaking cares if there is genuine role-play in ff or bg or diablo? Gromnir doesn't believe that genuine role-play is possible in a sp crpg. what fool is gonna spend effort trying to convince Gromnir that he is wrong, and that ff and bg and/or diablo has real role-play? what you gain from such an effort? as long as developers and publishers and consumers all understand what is in box with a crpg label on it, then why does anybody friggn' care what is oris not genuine role-play? if a developer says, "we are attempting to maximize role-play opportunities in our next title," is you gonna be satisfied, or is you gonna wonder what specific features has been added and what design changes has been made by the developer in question? you is gonna wonder 'cause role-play not mean a damn thing in and of itself. bah. HA! Good Fun!

why on earth would you head-butt a guy in the chest? damn dirty french pansy can't even does that right. HA! Good Fun!

... huh? where is we outta character? same bad grammar, same bash bad arguments. and if you think you is gonna be "getting to" Gromnir with a silly soccer argument, you is even more dopey than we previously thought. oh, and to have the entire tourney decided by terrible shoout out thing is just another reason to make us feel little remorse at ignoring the world's sport. HA! Good Fun!

and all you did is repeat what Gromnir just said. we noted that we weren't comparing war to sports, but you simply ignored. we brought up hockey and jousting and even how pansy soccer players use protection, but you ignored and simply repeated your mischaracterizations. we honestly hope you is being silly purposeful, 'cause otherwise... "And no, I said it as a direct response to your whining about the behavior of SOME football players and their magical spraycan." we don't give a darn what your motivations were. fact is that YOU compared euro & American football, and found American wanting in machismo 'cause of extra padding. you brought up and compared, not Gromnir. for chrissakes, you can scroll up a couple posts and see in black & white and you still argue. *shrug* HA! Good Fun!

"From what I gathered from your post (can be hard to read) you're still making the absurd comparison between a dark age knight and a US footballer" there is only so much Gromnir can do with people like this. if is being obtuse as a joke, then we will laugh with you and take our leave... but if you is serious then we feels some small 'mount o' compassion/pitty for you and we leave so as to not cause you further injury. *shrug* the australians actually prefer australian football, and in new zealand and south africa, rugby is king. we don't fully understand the rules o' irish football, but it seems more fun to watch than soccer. seems likes many peoples decided that soccer needed improving. soccer gots a wonderful tradition and it is a universal sport, and folks who grew up loving soccer will always love soccer regardless of its shortcomings... much as Gromnir loved baseball until the most recent strike. HA! Good Fun!

am gonna assume that you is being purposefully obtuse. Gromnir did not compare american football to war. we compoared the need for protection in both activities and noted that machismo did not suffer comensurate with amount o' protection. jousting, for instance, were not war. it were a sport. regardless, the point is that knights, whether in practice, sport, or actual combat, wore considerable padding so as to prevent serious bodily injury. clearly the addition o' armour did not detract from the machismo o' knightly pursuits. furthermore, euro footabllers often use padding, but they not need near as much as American Footballers or knights... they gots a little slip o' plastic to protect their shins, 'cause that is all that is required. hockey, whatever its shortcomings, typically does not suffer from a lack o' machismo. lack o' teeth? perhaps, but lack o' machismo? goalies can barely move with all their accumulated padding. again, the claimed relationship 'tween diminishing machismo and increased padding (which were your claim,) clearly has no credible basis save for a a rather milksop attempt at defending euro football. also, Gromnir did not bring up American Football... you did... as a direct comparison 'tween machismo in euro v. American Football. HA! Good Fun!

is not an outrageous comparison. both activities is ones in which the participants wore/wear protective garb to prevent, as much as possible, serious bodily injury. if football players could wear more protection w/o it detracting from their performance we would happily endorse such a thing. am not sure how the sport that requires less protective garb somehow gets considered more macho by lucius, but we guess that is the euro pov for you. as to the enoch link... *chuckle* thanks HA! Good Fun!

american football is violent enough that w/o such padding, people would become seriously injured and even die. is not like rugby where people is constantly moving. i am not sure why euros always bring up padding. no doubt all those knights in plate were candy-arses 'cause they chose to wear armour 'stead o' simply toughing it out like Real men. HA! Good Fun!

every time we sees a stretcher come on the field and take a guy off, a guy who miraculously springs to his feet after he reaches sidelines, we recalls #'s comments 'bout "footballer" toughness. somebody gots to send us a crate of that magic spray the world cup medical personel gots access to. a world-class athelete, writhing in agony one moment, leaps up and runs back onto field w/o so much as a limp after some clown sprays his shin with some sorta magic concotion? amazing stuff. the fact that cheating bastards like the portugese team could makes the semi's in this tourney, along with having any world cup game decided on penalty kicks, not to mention the seemingly arbitrary manner in which time is kept on the field, pretty much killed whatever interest we were trying to drum up for this thing... though we does admit that the absence o' commercials is a nice change... but by the same token we finds it disturbingly easy to multi-task whilst watching a soccer match. is kinda like watching golf. just give us the espn 30 second spot. HA! Good Fun!

maybe one named lucius does not understand... if Gromnir would prefer an unpleasant activity such as chewing aluminum foil to playing hitman with wasd, then why would you thinks Gromnir would choose either the chewing or the playing options? ... we will have to visit denmark... no doubt we could fleece your entire country in a couple of days. HA! Good Fun!

would rather chew aluminum foil than we woulds wanna play any game that requires wasd control. HA! Good Fun!

how did you set the game resolution and refresh rates for bg2? we always gotta does manual... go into ini. and looks for the Resolution and Display Frequency lines under the Program Options portion and alter so that they match your monitor's display settings. if that not help then we got no idea. HA! Good Fun!

What about rims? Spinning rims!!! Also would it suit Gromnir if we all pretended this was a dream vee-hickle thread and not just a dream car one? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> kinda defeats the original intent of the thread, no? is an off-topic thread, so we don't really thinks that it matters much that things get off-track so fast, but we is always a bit surprised by the ADD mentality that pervades these boards. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ANNSILV002.jpg HA! Good Fun!

fighter planes and apc crap in a dream car thread? predicatable and sad. why not submit the following: http://ppc.warhawkenterprises.com/mechbay/linebacker.html or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Star_Destroyer you peoples is goofs... really. HA! Good Fun!

... would be kinda likes ray kroc writing a book on how to cook, no? HA! Good Fun!

we own 2 automobiles. got a 1996 ford ranger that we has managed to keep in good condition... is our day-to-day vehicle. we also got a 1987 buick grand national with 28k miles... is the car we scare the neighbors with. am not wanting another car. HA! Good Fun!

... this better be some kinda prelude to either a mass departure o' current mods, or some kinda anticipatory move previous to new game announcement, 'cause we clearly had 'nuff mods before the recent new additions. am hopeful that this ain't simply likes the old bis boards where mods gots their close freinds onto the mod team for no other purpose than to be part o' Club Mod. do a good job and we only will complain a little. HA! Good Fun!

no doubt the huge increase in posts 'round here required a new mod to handle the load. has we officially hit the point where we gots more mods than regular psoters? continue to increase the number of mods, and has regular posters continue to vanish... eventually we will has every remainig poster be a mod, that way we can simply mod ourselves. *shrug* dar ain't no worse than most of the folks who currently has the job, so we don't mind as long as she remembers that the best mods is the ones who find themselves modding infrequently. if draque is modding lots, then she will have already failed. HA! Good Fun!

if the boys in finland looks like kate, we suspect that your population must have some rather severe gender identity issues. no doubt it must be disconcerting to finish lesbians... finding themselves attracted to all those petite finish men. HA! Good Fun!

first looks better maybe, but is 'posed to have gibbon heads, not jackal or dog heads. second looks kinda terrible. there might still be some bio concept drawings for the dg from tob floating 'round the internet. those were pretty spot on... even if we ain't a fan of mike sass work. linky: http://bgt.rpguides.de/ToB/Media/hintergrundbilder.htm HA! Good Fun!

both prcs is lame. all prcs is lame, but these is worse than most. ek has been beat to death on why it is sucky, and war priests... you wanna play a fighter/cleric that is still good at turning undead? play a war priest. is all a war priest really is... a way to get 'round the relative sucky turning ability o' a fighter/cleric and throw in some bonus super powers to get 'round lack of bonus feats for fighter classes not took. is pure cheese. HA! Good Fun!

am recalling the nwn radial menu and all the choices that you could access from it. turn undead ability and spells and feats and skills n' such. we suspect that each o' those things needs an icon. doubt it is simply weapons and armour that is accounting for +3000 icons. though we agree that where armour and weapon icons is needed, mk's solution works just fine. HA! Good Fun!

It was a joke, but it was helpfull to ilustrate your tendency to post irrelevant drible, mixed with some interesting thoughts and ideas from time to time, of course. Again i'm not interested in your opinion, it is completely irrelevant to me on this issue. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ah. we see why you not wanna initially give context. nevertheless, our advice in this instance is sound. try to get josh to ok theft on board is probably not best approach. why not have your hypothetical person do like an adult and formally request? suggest that only jerks would put the kybosh on thefts as a way to get a obsidian developer to ok theft is probaly not the best approach we has seen. btw, Gromnir likes the iwd2/ps:t icons... but if there ain't enough, then there ain't enough. HA! Good Fun!