Gromnir

*eye roll* am leveling so fast that gearing 2x is not a priority, particular as am taking efforts to hoard basic comms. if this were our main server, we would have all kinda extra gear to send between characters, but harbinger is our backup. as is, am delaying gearing upgrades to intervals o' 8 levels, with last pre-50 upgrade taking place at 41. so, am chronic undergeared and am not having any reasonable opportunity to double our gear. sure, once we hit level 60 we will work on multiple sets, but at the moment, it don't make much sense. HA! Good Fun!

our main problem with the revan stuff in swtor is that we played (and liked) kotor 2. from bioware's pov, perhaps obsidian deviated too much from the original kotor story. unfortunately for Gromnir, we liked the revan that kreia and the kotor 2 characters described and so when we got swtor revan, we were disappointed. more recent, we managed to get 2 characters from 0-50 on harbinger. took a week and a half, and we spent no more than 90 minutes a day playing as we has been too busy for more serious leveling efforts. unfortunately, our crafting/scavenging levels has serious languished as has raising o' affection for companions. we were gonna level a vanguard to 50 and then focus on gearing a couple characters, but with 12x story xp making leveling so quick, we may go ahead and get a smuggler and agent to 50 as well. the next expansion will give one free level 60, yes? perhaps we do smuggler and then insta-level the agent in october. as an aside, trying to get a dps flashpoint invite through groupfinder on harbinger is almost pointless. HA! Good Fun!

there is a couple instances o' companions getting free talents/abilities. kana also gets a free phrase, which is a substantial bonus considering how few phrases chanters acquire over the course o' the game. eder and kana is two npcs we do not roll-back to level 1. our assumption were that the free talents were their special quality akin to the druid companion's unique wild shape or the ranger's fox. such stuff did "make sense" seeing as how the companions had less than ideal attribute distributions and other than dialogues, the unique qualities were there to makes the obsidian created companions appealing compared to a player created companions. oh well. haven't played in a week or two, so we hadn't noticed eder's loss... will check kana later. HA! Good Fun!

esports is a silly term, but that is unimportant. hey, whilst channel surfing we has lingered on the iron chef more than once. what will they do with squid eyeballs and pumpkin? world series o' poker, with half the participants dressed like the unabomber, can be compelling, but we don't consider such to be sports. we went to a high school that were desperate to improve academics, and so there were a push by folks to makes band and debate teams eligible for varsity letters. so, esports? not sports. so what? if is entertaining, then so much the better. if some folks can find a way to make money doing what they like best, then great. is already any number o' competitive endeavours that can be entertaining and lucrative. jeopardy is already an esport, no? am not personal a fan o' jeopardy, but the quiz show thing has been around almost as long as TV. is a competitions and there is tactics and strategy involved. such stuff is nothing new, but we don't get the sad nerdling need to find some kinda acceptance from the jocks. esports is not sports. HA! Good Fun!

not specific related. tangential... perhaps. http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/13314040/colin-cowherd-no-longer-espn-air-comments-dominican-republic-players we always thought the guy were a bit o' a schnook, but is kinda unfortunate that an on-air personality who is hired to spark debate gets fired for this kinda thing. stretching the pc bit a bit far. HA! Good Fun!

based on what little we has gleaned from two days o' playing a bit at 12x story xp rate, we are gonna be spending a fair bit o' coin on leveling our crafting skills. more specific, is the resource gathering skills that is gonna languish. we got a 55 guardian, 50 bounty hunter, and 50 sorc on harbinger and a bunch o' lower level characters. gonna see how quick we can get the three aforementioned to 60 while also leveling a jugg, sage and commando... send legacy gear back and forth so we need actual only maintain gear for 3 characters. if am feeling particularly ambitious, we will add a scoundrel and operative. guardian and sage + jugg and sorc is a nice combo as we got tank, heals, melee dps and ranged dps all covered on both pub and imp side with those four. unfortunately, 'til we finish with our leveling (if we don't run outta steam in a week or so,) am gonna be outfitted in a motley o' legacy gear, so spending credits on fancy clothes will need wait. HA! Good Fun!

"Funny" story about that. So, in my current playthrough, Azurro comes by and offers to sell me an ostensibly unique morning star. I figure, "what the hell, completionism," and buy it. Shortly afterward, he comes by and tries to sell me the same morning star. Naturally, I growl and ignore this. On his next visit, he once again drops by to sell me the same morning star. At this point, I'm kinda regretting my failure to spec the whole party with WF: Knight, so that I could have them all parade around with the same unique weapon. ... I'm just going to console in Hiro's Cloak on my next playthrough, since clearly Azurro is bs. is silly for developers to fail at removing the previous chosen unique item(s) from azurro's possible inventory. that being said, given that the item selection in question is random, one may exploit if you so desire. go to most recent save previous to azzurro and try again 'til you get whatever particular item you wish. HA! Good Fun!

Catharine, huh? The handle sounds familiar. I think I may have run into you, or thought you were insane due to your GTN asking prices, or something... Yes, my Cathar merc girl. I actually did sell the contents of a hypercrate (although I split that duty between her and Malpractise, my healer) within the last couple of months. May have been the one before the current release. Got good credits overall for the content too the good thing about not having played for months is that we have something like 9000 cartel coins saved up from the subscriber + security key allowances. am s'posing we can purchase and sell a hypercrate? dunno. have never actual checked the prices o' such. in the past, when running a little low on funds, we actual has been tempted to sell our czerka crate o-matic. on the bad side, we were using our mail for purposes o' storing extra 1007 and all such stuff has long since disappeared, so am not certain how much we functional "lost." none o' it were real, so we can't manage to be all that concerned 'bout the loss, but we did allow our self a moment's regretful sigh as we realized that we had consigned millions o' credits worth o' crafting supplies and gear into the digital void simple 'cause we couldn't be bothered to log-in and do a little maintenance. HA! Good Fun!

It's my understanding that they still have the 12x Class Story XP bonus thing going for subscribers? At least until the expansion is released, too. You can avoid all sidequests thanks to that... avoiding trash mobs populating the instances is another thing, though. After leveling an Operative and a Shadow, I don't think I could go back to non-stealth classes. for the heck o' it, we took a couple hours and created a jug on harbinger. required a few hours to get off korriban. however, with the subscriber xp boost, we were level 15 when we left the planet... almost 16. the thing is, we typical level a character/toon by completing nothing save story and flashpoints. this approach keeps us geared okie dokie. sending mods bought with basic comms by our host o' other characters is tedious and is nothing save a chore. however, we may need simple accept that flashpoints will be unnecessary and resign self to the fact that we is gonna be playing with gear +5 levels behind the curve. the ultra-fast leveling is nifty and all, but am suspecting we will need consider a few gear issues if we wanna level a couple characters at this time. as for stealth, am embarrassed to admit we have level'd one o' every advanced class and am kinda ambivalent regarding stealth. we do indeed much enjoy dps scoundrel/operative gameplay, particular in pvp. even so, while we like being able to complete a few o' the heroics via a solo stealth character, for the most part, is not as if we save much time or effort by stealthing as 'posed to simple roll-stomping whatever mobs is in our path. however, there is moments when stealth at least feels invaluable. HA! Good Fun!

was feeling a bit more groovy than usual this morning. HA! Good Fun!

I think I got around 18 character transfers lined up (of which i might have gone through with 2 or 3 at full price) Leaving a few toons behind to play with old friends, but the bulk is moving to the pve servers (mostly harbinger and shadowlands). Bastards still wont let me transfer toons to Red Eclipse. haven't played for many months, but we got a few characters on harbinger. am mostly jedi covenant. might play a bit... at least until white march arrives for poe. HA! Good Fun!

am not gonna yet again indulge in this debate save to reiterate our initial oblique point. crpg "romances" has become, almost by default, the companion side-quests such as has been popularized by bioware. this redefining o' romance is, in our opinion, unfortunate. the genesis poster says "romances" and folks know what he/she is referencing. not too long ago, relative speaking, we suffered multiple pages o' insanity as we tried to explain to a modern gamer why the ravel relationship with the ps:t protagonist had as much right to be labeled romance as anything we has seen from bioware. the suggestion that ravel's love for tno qualified as romantic content woulda' been much easier to accept in 1999 than it is today. crpg romances is, for many, the companion sidequests that has the climax o' the romantic arc being, well, climax. am believing that accepting such a limited definition of crpg romance is having a tendency to dilute and diminish an otherwise compelling and powerful option for writers and developers. so endeth our efforts to hold back the tide. HA! Good Fun!

dear lord. you again is misattributing your mossad drops... from al-jazeera. HA! as has been noted many times, the breakout options is what has been the focus o' the nuclear weapons program o' iran. isis is unambiguous and refers to iranian efforts as a "nuclear weapons program" frequent. you use israeli findings from al-jazeera (still tickles us considering your reflex dismissal of wsj) out-o'context. that iran ain't working on the actual weapon is in agreement with rand, and isis and even the iaea who is all take as given that not only were iran working on the weapons until 2003, but that their activities regarding breakout options has likely continued since that time. in fact finding alternative explanations that would explain iranian actions is far more in need o' proof. we posted the quotes above 'cause they is from a source you find credible enough to use, and the source is not being shy that iran's efforts in advancing a nuclear weapon program is alarming and destabilizing to the region. is considerable proof o' an active iranian nuclear weapon's program. from heavy-water sites to spherical geometry studies, there is a large body o' evidence. you don't find such proofs as been offered by various sources to be compelling? okie dokie. is a bit hypocritical in light o' your pakistani stand, but am never having seen anybody accuse zor o' being unbiased. oh, and go ahead keep ignoring the unwillingness o' iran to allow inspections is monumental obtuse. again, play ostrich if you will. wanna deflect now that is obvious how ridiculous (and frequent self-defeating) were zor comments? fine. #1 failure of the deal to address concerns: inspections "Iran would have also defeated a central tenet of IAEA inspections—the need to determine both the correctness and completeness of a state’s nuclear declaration. The history of Iran’s previous military nuclear efforts may never come to light and the international community would lack confidence that these capabilities would not emerge in the future. Moreover, Iran’s ratification of the Additional Protocol or acceptance of additional verification conditions, while making the IAEA’s verification task easier in several important ways, would not solve the basic problem posed by Iran’s lack of cooperation on key, legitimate IAEA concerns. Other countries contemplating the clandestine development of nuclear weapons will certainly watch Tehran closely. "With a seven month extension, there is plenty of time for Iran to address all the IAEA’s outstanding concerns. Moreover, an approach can be implemented whereby Iran can choose to admit to having had a nuclear weapons program, or at least accept or not publicly dispute a credible IAEA judgment that it had one, and allow IAEA access to key military sites, such as Parchin, and to critical engineers and scientists linked to those efforts. If no such concrete demonstration is forthcoming during the extension, a deal should not be signed. If it is, the deal should not offer any significant relief from financial and economic sanctions until Iran fully addresses the IAEA’s concerns." --your isis guys isis observed that any nuke deal should be contingent 'pon, 'mong other items, "5) Iran’s binding agreement to intrusive and comprehensive inspections that are at a minimum as stringent as those outlined in the IAEA’s Additional Protocol (to the comprehensive safeguards agreements states must implement under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty), plus additional measures that reflect that Iran has been found in noncompliance with its safeguards obligations." and 2: enforcement "The agreement’s primary enforcement mechanism, the threat of renewed sanctions, emphasizes a broad-based asymmetry, which provides Iran permanent relief from sanctions in exchange for temporary restraints on Iranian conduct. Undertaking the “snap-back” of sanctions is unlikely to be as clear or as automatic as the phrase implies. Iran is in a position to violate the agreement by executive decision. Restoring the most effective sanctions will require coordinated international action. In countries that had reluctantly joined in previous rounds, the demands of public and commercial opinion will militate against automatic or even prompt “snap-back.” If the follow-on process does not unambiguously define the term, an attempt to reimpose sanctions risks primarily isolating America, not Iran." -- from the recent kissinger and shultz letter. the biggest concerns previous to the deal were realized. the deal offers no genuine intrusive inspection ability that could determine if iran is complying, and the west has given up its enforcement capability save for direct military action and... appeals to the humanity o' the iranian people? regardless, we must once again thank you for your contributions to the thread. your dismissal o' scaremongering were much reinforced by your observations that the saudis could/would buy nuke weapons off-the-shelf from pakistan. wait, that doesn't make any sense at all, does it? HA! Good Fun!

Ignoring emotions is kind of the definition of being rational. That's not actually how rationality works. Emotions provide people with motivations - rationality is the task of addressing one's emotional motives in a way that is self-consistent with what one knows. Without emotions, there isn't even a reason to be rational, much less to be anything else. A person who finds romances in games to be un/pleasant, and therefore does/n't want them to be present in those games is being rational, regardless of whether or not that's an experience anyone else shares. (This post is brought to you by existentialism - it first arrives on the stage, and then you get to decide what to make of it.) tl;dr Spock wasn't logical, he was just a lazy utilitarian. post is, we assume, brought to us by internalism more than existentialism. in any event, even adhering to a hume kinda notion o' instrumental rationality, one may critique the dime-store philosopher if there is no consistent utility function that is resultant from their actual choices and behavior. lord knows we do not wanna lay down and play dead for the weberian zweckrationalität. HA! Good Fun!

am suspecting that what you mean is that you is curious as to whether or not for poe obsidian added any bioware-style, optional and tangential mini-games with a focus on a sex-me-up resolution. answer: no. HA! Good Fun!

wouldn't God almost necessarily be black? God makes man in his image, and first man is from Africa, so... plus, with john huston being dead, who other than morgan freeman could play the role o' God? am thinking God would have prescience to consider casting choices. HA! Good Fun!

is best advice, but is it actual good advice? you shrug and move on... to what? chances are that the folks who brought up the white privilege angle ain't gonna just let it go. you can try and ignore the white privilege stuff, but if everybody else is wanting to address how your pov is inherently suspect, then the chance for meaningful progress diminishes. use well-considered arguments and oft-quoted scientific studies to get back on track only takes you so far, 'cause the studies and statistics approach is gonna get you roped into trying to explain economic and educational disparities that will likely open you up to further accusations. so you shrug and move on, and is effectively silenced 'cause the debate is altered. in any event, racism is not easily quantified. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/may/27/-sp-racism-on-rise-in-britain?view=desktop is an interesting article, but the methodology were having folks be interviewed and asked to what degree they were racist. ... anybody see problems? HA! Good Fun!

so, how did that make you feel when you were accused o' white privilege? did you wanna defend self? were there a response you could provide that were convincing your detractors that your arguments were worthy o' consideration in spite of your unfortunate (HA!) birth? did you perhaps feel that you were being ignored for no reason other than the color o' your skin? we mentioned in the other thread just how counter-productive is the labels. bring up white privilege or racism and it is so easy for the constructive discussion to die. racism exists. hell, white privilege, while a silly kinda term, might exist. but honestly, so what? in most cases, the label is not helpful. discuss recent events in cincinnati (attack of a white guy by multiple folks on july 4 or the recent shooting of a black motorist by a white cop) w/o having the discussion become one 'o white privilege or applicability o' racism is near doomed. HA! Good Fun! ps in interest o' full disclosure, Gromnir has, more than once, felt irritation when we hear a bunch o' upper middle-class white guys take a moment while dining to be solving the problems in ferguson or baltimore over their prime rib or caesar salad. "they don't know..." when we start to think such thoughts, and when we feel the anger rise a bit, we needs check our self.

http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/331603/Pillars+of+Eternity%3A+The+White+March+coming+%22soon%22+%26+%22also+soon%22/ "It's another area that unlocks on the world map, and you can freely go back and forth between the White March areas and the base game areas at any time. You can bring all the good loot that you found from the White March areas, back into the base game. You can bring the companions back, back and forth. So yeah, it's very open-ended." nothing earth shaking. HA! Good Fun!

ISIS? the ISIS that reported that iran's nuclear program, "Threatens international peace and security, undermines the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty [NPT], and threatens to spur proliferation elsewhere in the region"? that ISIS? oh, and you didn't bother reading the footnotes, eh? you still got other pacharin problem to deal with. which brings us to the obvious: why not allow inspectors to confirm? iaea is concerned as is others. so why not allow inspectors? your link shows that there is no evidence that the explosion had anything to do with a nuke development, but then why be paving over and disallow o' inspections? "The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has asked to visit this site based upon information it received from member states and its interviews with a former Soviet nuclear weapons expert linked to this site.1 Iran has so far refused to allow the visit and in the meantime undertaken extensive building and site modifications that complicate the IAEA’s verification responsibilities under the Iran/IAEA comprehensive safeguards agreement." oh, and use ISIS is, much like your protest that pakistan could sell the saudis a bomb off-the-shelf, is hurting you. "Iran regularly denies the IAEA access to military sites, such as Parchin, a facility where high-explosive experiments linked to nuclear triggers may well have occurred. Iran continues to refuse IAEA requests to interview key individuals, such as Mohsen Fakrizadeh, the suspected military head of the Iranian nuclear-weapons program in the early 2000s and perhaps today, and Sayyed Abbas Shahmoradi-Zavareh, the former head of the Physics Research Center alleged by the IAEA be the central location in the 1990s of Iran's militarized nuclear research." david allbright, president of ISIS other zingers from same source: "The primary goal of a comprehensive solution is to ensure that Iran’s nuclear program is indeed peaceful, against a background of two decades of Iran deceiving the IAEA about its nuclear programs, including military nuclear programs. This long history of deception and violations places additional burdens on achieving a verifiable long term agreement, including the need for any agreement to last for about 20 years. " "At this point in time, it is not certain that Iran would rely entirely on the covert pathway option for fear of getting caught again as it did in building the formerly secret Fordow facility, and long before it has enough weapon-grade uranium or separated plutonium for nuclear weapons. The revelation about the Qom enrichment plant was highly damaging to Iran’s international credibility." "Iran poses by far the most important and immediate Middle East nuclear proliferation challenge for the United States and the international community. Iran’s advancing nuclear program violates U.N. Security Council resolutions, threatens international peace and security, undermines the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and threatens to spur proliferation elsewhere in the region." "Addressing the IAEA’s concerns about the military dimensions of Iran’s nuclear programs is fundamental to any long-term agreement. Although much of the debate about an agreement with Iran rightly focuses on Tehran’s uranium enrichment and plutonium production capabilities, an agreement that side steps the military issues would risk being unverifiable. Moreover, the world would not be so concerned if Iran had never conducted weaponization activities aimed at building a nuclear weapon. After all, Japan has enrichment activities but this program is not regarded with suspicion. Trust in Iran’s intentions, resting on solid verification procedures, is critical to a serious agreement." "We recommend that the United States and its allies impose maximal sanctions pressure on Iran prior to Iran’s reaching the critical capability to produce enough weapongrade uranium (or sufficient separated plutonium) for one or more bombs before the production of such an amount can reasonably be expected to be detected by the IAEA or Western intelligence services. " "Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei often declares that nuclear weapons violate Islamic strictures. His denials are not credible." "Thus, there is widespread evidence and agreement that Iran has worked on developing nuclear weapons and that some of those activities may have continued to today." http://isis-online.org/isis-reports/detail/update-on-ir-5-centrifuge-issue-taking-stock/8 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11288503/US-should-stop-Iran-buying-material-for-Arak-nuclear-plant.html http://www.jpost.com/Iranian-Threat/News/ISIS-estimates-Iran-could-build-a-nuclear-bomb-within-a-month-329718 you do know how to pick'em. HA! Good Fun!

Are you really that obtuse, or do you simply not want to understand what Gromnir wrote? Constructing the actual warheads is just one part of a nuclear weapons program. Much of it is building up infrastructure, technology, human capital to be able to construct the warheads (and put them straight into missiles without delays). So yes, you can have a nuclear weapons program that prepares and optimises everything else first, and saves the warhead construction for last, so that - with everything optimized - it can be done much quicker. That's what the "Iran is x years/months away from nuclear weapons" reports from Western intelligence services mean: If Iran were to start the warhead construction now (which they aren't, yet) how long would it take them to finish? The more they prepare and optimize the infrastructure, the shorter that time becomes - at some point it may become so short that they can go ahead and do it without anyone being able to stop them anymore, and at that point they probably will do it. (Or why else go through all that trouble?) I think it is you who have missed the point about the nuclear program. The point is that a lot the Iranians do is indiscernible from what you would in a civil nuclear program. The reason they have much of the infrastructure themselves is largely in because they were frozen out of the global market in the first place. You cannot for any moral reason prevent a country from having a civilian nuclear programme. well, you can be moral justified in stopping the civilian use if they is using such to hide what is obvious a nuclear weapon's program. sure, some o' what the iranians is doing is indistinguishable from what would be a peaceful nuclear energy program, but a considerable amount o' what they is doing ain't. please, you gotta be ridiculous obtuse to believe that iranian activities at fordow and parchin (y'know, where were that explosion followed by the paving over once investigators asked for access) and elsewhere is peaceful. and yes, if one bent over backwards and went full ostrich mode like zor, you could explain away the heavy-water facilities as being peaceful, but they make far more sense in the context o' weapon construction. as kgambit's iaea numbers show, the iranian efforts actual make far more sense when viewed as pursuing weapons as 'posed to peaceful use. heck, the iaea has noted that some o' the "spherical geometries" studies being conducted is baffling to the iaea unless looked at in context of weapons development. am understanding that the current (previous) efforts to prevent iranian nuke weapons development has reached a point o' serious diminishing returns. the iranians is already having pushed their breakout options such that continuing sanctions is having limited impact. fine. argue that continued efforts is pointless and while we disagree, we is at least conceding that iran weapons development is so far along that efforts other than sanctions were needed. military? clear not an option at this time. nevertheless, the economic stick were not having the desired impact, so it made sense to try the carrot instead, yes? fine. am agreeing a change in policy were needed, but trying to pretend that the iranians were not pursuing nuclear weapons development is require a level o' childish naivete or willful obtuseness that is detracting from your arguments rather than bolstering. HA! Good Fun!

There is common sense in the people. in all of recorded history, has anybody been foolish for underestimating the common sense o' people? HA! Good Fun!

is more lies? again, yes, the warhead development is not progressing. you can have a nuclear weapon program wherein you ain't actual constructing the warhead. US sources were clear that fordow were a facility for developing nuclear weapons... scroll back up and read the linked. the rand piece were stressing the breakout options approach o' the iranian nuclear weapons program. according to rand, both tehran and the US believe that US intelligence would discover actual construction o' a nuclear weapon, so iran is doing everything short o' that. develop delivery systems and increase capacity to make multiple weapons. shorten time it would take to produce the weapons. furthermore, even the iaea has observed that there is compelling evidence that iran's nuclear program has clandestine nuclear purposes. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057796/UN-Compelling-proof-Iran-building-nuclear-warheads.html it takes a special level o' obtuseness to continue pretending that iran has not been pursuing nuclear weapons development. and while a variety o' foreign leaders attempt to save face by applauding the deal in public, (although as we noted, egypt and uae is sending mixed signals, even if you don't like usa today and wsj sources) http://www.pewglobal.org/2012/05/18/a-global-no-to-a-nuclear-armed-iran/ but yes, your selective ostrich routine is familiar. use al jazerra for your source on mosad? and you can actual try and complain 'bout wsj? HA! investors is less concerned with politics than is most, and the pieces offered is as often as not, articles related to foreign investment. but hey, go to a rag that is funded by qatar. heck, its links to the muslim brotherhood caused numerous defections as recent as 2013. *shrug* some things never change. HA! Good Fun!

am gonna clarify, just a tad. racism is a problem. sexism is a problem. homophobia is a problem. at some point, those problems gotta be faced and discussed. am having met folks who tell us that there is no "real" racism in the US these days, other than a few extreme examples kept alive by aryan brotherhood and the like. am needing to disagree. the isms exist, but the label discussions has made it so that it is easier to pretend that there ain't no "real" isms. am thinking hurl mentioned that his students have a tendency to see racism and sexism everywhere. if he didn't say that, we apologize earnestly. nevertheless, that observation matches our own experience. college aged and younger kids is so likely to see sexism and racism that the terms lose meaning. is not just kids neither-- is pundits that do the same. yeah, we do gotta face the issues. at some point we gotta admit that racism still exists and that it ain't limited to cross burning rednecks. the thing is, in a free and open society, there ain't no institutional apparatus to quick and effective change what people believe. discussion o' racism by a tv panel or an op-ed in the washington post doesn't combat racism. do a gi-joe style psa on racism? even education in schools is slow and frequent self-defeating. sure, somebody like hurl teaches his kids how wrong is racism, and then you go into the school cafeteria and sees how the kids is often segregating themselves. change racism you were taught by parents and friends since you were old enough to make sense o' the following: get more jobs and a better future for minorities.... and to a lesser degree, women. is still a glass ceiling in various industries. when the minority, driving his bmw outta his gated community, is confronted by a gap-toothed, trailer park hillbilly claiming expertise on eugenics, the situation is laughable and near painless. is an exaggerated example 'course. not need have bmws for minorities to make situation better. more jobs. better future. a better future don't require that the future be better than what white folks got. noticeable better than now would make a big difference. regardless, we nevertheless believe that the current sjw climate (not blaming sjw folks alone for that) has resulted in an almost paradoxical dilution o' terminology while at the same time increasing polarization o' viewpoint. HA! Good Fun!

modern ism debates annoy us. taking from the linked opine, am agreeing that socioeconomic issues is paramount, but is also true that there is historic race-related advantages and disadvantages that has resulted in modern economic disparities. am recognizing that non-whites were disadvantaged +50 years ago. ok. fix the problem, discuss, and fix. start blathering about white privilege and the real issues get lost. functional attack some guy for no other reason than that he were born with Y chromosome and that all his grandparents were white is &*$#ing messed up. attack somebody who didn't actual do anything wrong and who has no way to defend himself is only gonna lead to understandable animosity towards the attacker, and the attacker is likely a minority or women or liberal. your average middle-class white kid did not go to exeter and get a near auto-admission to ivy league schools. yeah, the ultra-wealthy get advantages we cannot hope to legitimize to those who got nothing, but that is true regardless o' race or gender. take some moderate conservative white guy and tell him that he should feel bad 'cause o' white privilege and chances are he is gonna react defensive... and he is gonna be freaking justified for feeling defensive. is stoopid arguments when sjw and modern notions o' a host o' other isms is discussed. instead o' discussing anything meaningful, we discuss the legitimacy o' the damned labels? that is utter idiotic. real solution: find some way to give all children two loving and supportive parents. all major social ills would disappear in a couple generations. am only partial joking. HA! Good Fun!