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am not belittling the emotion. am a bit baffled by the double standard for celebrity... life and death. too soon for hurl? brandon lee died 1993. hundreds o' people die in firearm accidents every year. w/o internet to help, name five other than lee. am curious as to why so much attention is given to actors and entertainers. a fine young plumber or mathematician dies and her friends and family most likely proclaim what a wonderful human being she were as 'posed to focusing on her ability to solder pipes or add. am thinking is understandable but unfortunate entertainers and athletes get such a different measure. the entertainer or athlete does indeed become a source o' inspiration. become inspiration because they were an entertainer or athlete. curious. notable exception, and only a bit tongue-in-cheek for over invested hurl. 'course brian piccolo ain't remembered 'cause he were an athlete. HA! Good Fun!

is a handful o' actors we admire for more than their talents on stage or screen.. not all o' em are dead, the three (edit: four) who first leapt to mind and is hardly a comprehensive list. prodigious talents who endeavoured to make the world a better place for those less fortunate than themselves. am not trying to create some kinda epeen competition btw. is a whole lotta fine actors who died too young or suffered too much. nevertheless am most impressed by actors who used their celebrity for something... more. HA! Good Fun! ps immediate felt terrible for not including ms. hepburn

double but... Trump suggests people in N.C. vote twice to test mail-in system encouraging what is a felony in north carolina and a federal crime punishable by up to five years. HA! Good Fun!

am gonna stay away from making observations 'bout law 'cause admitted am fascinated by how citizens o' other western nations, and US edgelords, view free speech. however, two quick observations: 1) the tinfoil hat brigade is a curious bunch on the one hand, the social media platforms is devious enough to create means by which their efforts to control The Message is unprovable and undetectable to a degree professor moriarty would be jealous while simultaneous their efforts to muzzle individuals such as rittenhouse lawyer backfires so spectacular and instead o' marginalized the guy is effective provided sympathy and the national spotlight. is curious how so often for the conspiracy to thrive we must accept simultaneous portrayal o' the bad guys as criminal masterminds and bumbling incompetents when is so much more plausible to pick the one supported by evidence. 2) there is no going back again, am not gonna discuss the law, but the history o' US government intervention in mass media makes apparent that once you decide a private enterprise is in fact a public utility, you will never be able to return to pre government regulation. better be certain you are willing to embrace what it means to be a public utility. good and bad. HA! Good Fun!

might be too early to plan the wake. as noted, the injunction granted were based on the ada in light o' covid-19 realities. that said, even before covid-19, sat and act were becoming less essential. am not a fan o' standardized tests, as have tried to make clear more than once on these boards. however, from a practical pov, is much more difficult to implement national scale tests o' those aspects o' bloom other than knowledge and comprehension. is abominably difficult to achieve grading consistency where evaluation and synthesis is being measured. as a person who brief graded the bar exam (we got paid based on the number o' tests graded, so speed were functional encouraged,) am recognizing just how difficult it is to train individuals so that they all evaluate analysis and synthesis same, or same enough. throw out tests all together and leave to grades results in the issues mentioned in the linked articles, with socioeconomic factors playing an even more pronounced role in perceived success. keep some kinda test but fail to achieve any genuine consistency in grading and you will face legal challenges. https://admissions.berkeley.edu/student-profile is an obvious problem o' using grades as the primary measure if the average o' weighted gpa is 4.0-4.26? is why the holistic approach is so popular... don't have some kinda formula based on grades or tests or whatever. but again, the Court which granted the injunction were functional dismissive o' holistic. little practical guidance for universities. HA! Good Fun!

am gonna sit back and let folks discuss the law stuff sans our input. ins kinda intriguing to hear what folks believe, however, inspired by vol, we will make one observation: the Courts is not magical and all-powerful wish granting genies. for the Courts to act, there needs be an actual injury capable o' being cured by legal available remedies. on its face, even temp banned from twitter is not so much a first amendment issue as it is a Kontracts problem. if the interruption o' service violates terms o' the contract, then the injured could seek damages. wait, no contract? no fees paid? well... even if we analogize facebook and twitter to public utilities, which is a stretch when am talking 'bout individual citizens posting random opinions as 'posed to say the government using as a means to communicate information to the public, what is damages sought? injunctive relief? well, that would mean facebook would be told to reconnect service... which they already did. needs be actual injury, so can't sue facebook for possible/maybe future other plaintiffs who could possible/maybe suffer similar at the hands o' a faceless algorithm bent on the destruction o' lawyers and alt-right radio hosts. injunctive relief is a waste as service were already reinstated. actual damages? need show proof o' monetary loss. the publicity garnered from the snafu likely has opposite effect as many o' you now know the lawyer's name. how many criminal defense lawyers can you name w/o doing an internet search? less than five? have mentioned punitive damages, but again, there needs be underlying actual damages, which then get multiplied if the bad guy did knowing on a mass scale. if can't show individual actual damages, don't matter if the social media platform did for bad reasons... at least from a legal pov. sure, from a pr standpoint, media uncovering an actual plot by social media to punish mouthy lawyers defending vigilantes would likely not garner much public support... but if you can show other more compelling victims were injured... but is kinda pointless to discuss as pr fallout is not specific a legal remedy, even if is often enough to motivate a defendant to engage in settlement discussions. the civil Courts don't punish bad people for their injustice. goal is to make a plaintiff whole if is found they suffered a real injury. hurt feelings and indignity is not the kinda injury the Courts address, so... HA! Good Fun!

isn't so much 'bout bruce satisfaction as it is 'bout convincing people to take the vaccine. again, the vaccine is not anticipated to be a guarantee o' individual safety. much like masks and social distancing, the vaccine, with wide enough use, will "starve" covid-19 to the point where people may go back to something approximating pre 2020 life. the thing is, if people do not understand the benefits o' the vaccine or are too stubborn to listen to health experts, far too many people will fogoe taking the vaccine for it to be effective in halting the pandemic. is so utter disappointing that as efficacy o' the vaccine drops, willingness to take the vaccine similar dips. reality is that as the vaccine's individual efficacy drops, is actual more incumbent 'pon people to take it when it is available. again, much like masks, take the vaccine, particular if you are younger or healthy, will go a long way towards saving some rando person whose name you will never learn, a person three or four degrees of separation from you who becomes infected because you didn't take the vaccine. as were made clear with vol, am not advocating mandatory vaccinations (though private companies and possibly even schools may indeed decide that their services will be off limits to those who do not take.) however, once the government refuses to make behaviour mandatory, that means the responsibility to do the right thing is 'pon individuals. you can public burn a quran and post youtube video o' such. right to is not same as wise to. similar, refusal to take a safe and 50% effective vaccine is arguable irresponsible... and am gonna suggest the argument is strong. HA! Good Fun!

IF virtual everybody took the vaccine, 50-60% efficacy would be fantastic even if it sounds uninspired. Dr. Anthony Fauci says chance of coronavirus vaccine being highly effective is 'not great' current basement number is described as 50% but obviously that kinda number is more for public benefit than real world. Scientists are hoping for a coronavirus vaccine that is at least 75% effective, but 50% or 60% effective would be acceptable, too, Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said during a Q&A with the Brown University School of Public Health. "The chances of it being 98% effective is not great, which means you must never abandon the public health approach." "You've got to think of the vaccine as a tool to be able to get the pandemic to no longer be a pandemic, but to be something that's well controlled," he said. The Food and Drug Administration has said it would authorize a coronavirus vaccine so long as it is safe and at least 50% effective. Dr. Stephen Hahn, the FDA's commissioner, said last month that the vaccine or vaccines that end up getting authorized will prove to be more than 50% effective, but it's possible the U.S. could end up with a vaccine that, on average, reduces a person's risk of a Covid-19 infection by just 50%. "We really felt strongly that that had to be the floor," Hahn said on July 30, adding that it's "been batted around among medical groups." HA! Good Fun!

is almost as if you have you never posted on this board. HA! Good Fun!

similar, darkpriest could claim to be a fairy princess. HA! Good Fun!

@BruceVC people voted for trump based on his promise o' the muslim ban. the final executive order is immaterial insofar as the sins o' those who voted trump into office. also, the earlier iterations o' the muslim ban were so comical bungled in part 'cause they were transparent efforts to actualize the trump campaign promise. ban immigration from places where near all immigrants o' islamic faith arrive while simultaneous making exceptions for those o' christian and jewish faiths were awkward attempts to implement a muslim ban w/o using the words "muslim" or "islamic." point out how the the executive orders mentioned nations and not a faith is hardly compelling evidence that trump did not attempt to implement a muslim ban. btw, what trump ended up with should appal evangelicals as it has made near impossible for christians fleeing persecution in the middle east to seek refuge in the US. HA! Good Fun!

there is so much hasty generalization fails in this thread. blame blm for any murder or injury to cops. blame the media as if newspapers, tv stations, internet sites and rando blogs linked as news on this site is all part o' some monolithic cabal with a uniform set o' tactics and goals. blame dems for violence happening under the trump administration, or assume dem groupthink even though many o' us watched the dem debates... and what were the point o' that if they is all the same? we do criticize antifa 'cause they their raison d'être is to use the means o' the fascists against them-- they say it is ok to use violence to prevent speakers from sharing their message. we do blame trump voters because they, all of them, voted for a guy who promised a muslim ban during his candidacy, and we see no way, particular for Americans, to justify such. etc. too much generalization and not enough focus on actual actions. why does it even need be pointed out how manifest unfair is the generalizations? stop blaming the media or the protesters. yeah, we can generalize and see trends we believe should be addressed 'mongst media and the protesters. would be swell if a few o' the more extreme media offerors could be more concerned with fact checking regardless o' the freedom they got from the Constitution to spew opinion like every other citizen... damn that first amendment, eh? and yeah, there is too many protesters in various cities who is not making the ghost o' john lewis proud. call the media sources out by name and admonish those protesters who do wrong, but resort to hasty generalization, particular when is convenient and matches the skree o' one's favored candidate, is just plain fugly... and stoopid. HA! Good Fun!

and that is what were odd 'bout the injunction and why we mentioned we were inexplicable in "the dark," as to the nature o' the ada obstacles. judges, ordinarily, is painstakingly specific 'bout injuries. also, the sat question is a bit less binary than suggested https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-12-22/grades-vs-sat-scores-which-is-a-better-predictor-of-college-success Emily Engelschall, UC Riverside director of undergraduate admissions, says she sees the shortcomings of standardized testing but that the scores do help evaluate grades across vastly different high schools. She also worries that dropping the testing requirement could exacerbate grade inflation. “If you don’t have some sort of standardized tests to balance out grade inflation,” she said, “then that does take one piece of the puzzle away from an admissions professional to help make a decision about a student.” Jessica Howell, the College Board’s vice president of research, has said that a greater reliance on high school grades in the name of equity would be “misguided” because grade inflation is associated with wealth. The College Board points to a 2018 study of North Carolina public school students in grades eight through 10 between 2005 and 2016. The study found that median GPAs rose across the board over time, but did so more in affluent schools than in low-income ones. The study also raised questions about the reliability of grades in measuring mastery of content. It found that only 21% of students who received A’s in algebra I achieved the highest proficiency level in end-of-course exams and 57% of those who received Bs failed to score marks indicating college and career readiness. end excerpt. as such, is arguable good grades, even more than test scores, is skewed by those socioeconomic factors the sat score is s'posed over reliant 'pon w/o having the benefit o' showing mastery o' content. regardless, given the complexities and social issues, this is not the kinda question which is ordinarily addressed in a court o' law and is exact why the "holistic approach" has been so effective in the past when schools attempt to avoid government entanglement with affirmative action or testing schemes. HA! Good Fun!

first, sharks are objectively terrifying. am knowing the chances o' getting bit much less killed is exceeding small, but the high degree o' unpredictability is part o' what makes us always afeared o' shark infested waters... though not afraid enough that it kept us out o' the water for long. second, this administration lies so consistent we now question stuff which we shouldn't have any reason to doubt. am understanding reluctance to believe claims o' efficacy and safety given previous wh claims. "it is reasonable to question whether a vaccine declared safe by the fda will indeed be safe, though again, ignorance is the real danger here as it is far more likely that a busted arse vaccine rushed through the final government protocols would be ineffective as opposed to actual dangerous." am not a conspiracy theory guy and even Gromnir admits we wonder if the administration would be willing to push a vaccine with known dangerous side effects just so long as the incidence o' such dangers is below some unspecific and horrifying acceptable amount. yet another reason to hope we get a new President following the november election. HA! Good Fun!

there is almost the exact same number o' troops in the middle east today as were the case in 2016. same foreign wars and near same troop levels. prescription costs actual went up on average this year. the wall were always a boondoggle... don't need a link. china were not paying for the trade war by having to meet us tariffs. etc. and you are way off on what we think is the worst things trump has done, though am gonna once again admit that anybody who voted for trump after he made his muslim ban promise should be embarrassed and cannot make claims of having voted their conscience w/o appearing utter laughable. and no, trump is not behaving like a politician. autocrat. we expect spin from politicians at the national level. as we noted, spin is traditional linked to political actors and their efforts to advance their own goals by presenting to media and public a version o' events most likely to benefit the politician. from even reputable politicians we expect the classic pivot. we also accept many broken campaign promises. however, the level o' mendacity and corruption from trump is beyond any expectations even we had back in 2016. false equivalency nonsense does not serve you in this situation. spin is what happens when politicians is bending over backwards to avoid the outright lie. trump has forgone any pretense o' honesty. also, we never claimed the media is blameless insofar as spin and influence, so strawman yourself to death if you want to. imagine another Gromnir response and then respond to it? that said, thank goodness the media need not be elected. we sure as heck don't want the media accountable to the electorate or to the government. “But when men have realized that time has upset many fighting faiths, they may come to believe even more than they believe the very foundations of their own conduct that the ultimate good desired is better reached by free trade in ideas — that the best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market, and that truth is the only ground upon which their wishes safely can be carried out.”-- J Holmes, abrams v. united states (1919) the idea behind the marketplace of ideas metaphor is that truth is more likely to be revealed if freedom o' expression is embraced. hardly a perfect system, and the internet is making increasing easy for people to avoid the market and instead loyalty buy, but the alternative is state run media which is swell right up until you get an administration like the current one. Harry Belafonte Blasts Trump After White House Spox Posts Fake Biden Video oh, and muslim ban. tell us again how it were never a promised muslim ban. tell us why it were ok for americans to vote for a candidate promising a muslim ban. fear? *chuckle* is exact what trump is trying to do in 2020. worse? this time is not fear o' foreigners but o' american citizens, and that should scare trump voters. it were middle east islamic terrorists and murders from beyond the southern border in 2016. today trump is selling fear he has costumed as radical democrats and blm protesters. HA! Good Fun!

University of California System can't use SAT and ACT tests for admissions, judge rules ... is a bit curious. at the very least we would expect the plaintiffs would need make a better show o' standing as nobody has yet been injured and the touchy-feely holistic approach for uc schools makes it difficult to claim they won't be accommodating o' applicants with disabilities w/o a test score. is also noteworthy how the court largely ignored the equal protection argument and focused sole on the ada (americans with disabilities act) angle. as such am suspecting the standardized test folks is gonna be extreme motivated to get creative and find a way to make testing more universal available in a covid-19 world, though the court didn't explain how the current testing situation disproportionate affected those with disabilities, not that we believe such hurdles is imaginary, but am nevertheless in the dark as to what has specific changed this year. regardless, is yet another blow to the standardized test scheme. sat scores and sports is what provided us a shot at becoming edumacated in the UC system, so am kinda disappointed. HA! Good Fun!

there you go... and weren't the media who did it neither. we knew somebody would not be able to help themselves and would supply the implied premise. admitted, we suspected the muslim ban would be a bridge too far for most to actual defend, though you took a half-hearted stab at gaslighting. even so, we were having faith somebody wouldn't be able to control their more base impulse. congrats. btw, spin, traditional, is referencing efforts by politicians, public officials or corporate entities to present stories to the media and/or public in such a way as to be most beneficial to their interests. in recent decades, the meaning has shifted a bit particular with the proliferation o' cable media "news" outfits having recognized/rediscovered that their audiences prefer stories which align with their already established beliefs and preconceptions. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/spin doctor edit: avoiding doublepost keep in mind is kinda surreal to quibble over spin when we got one candidate routinely doctorng video, attributing false quotes to his opponent and spreading unsubstantiated snakes on a plane conspiracy theories. HA! Good Fun!

spun? those who perpetrate unprovoked violence should be prosecuted according to the law. ... am suspecting an unspoken premise. HA! Good Fun!

Fauci debunks theories of low CDC coronavirus death toll: 'There are 180,000-plus deaths' in U.S. On Sunday, Twitter removed a post retweeted by Trump that claimed the CDC had "quietly" updated its guidance to indicate only 6% of the country's coronavirus death toll — roughly 9,000 deaths — was actually caused by the virus, according to a CNN report. The tweet said the remaining 94% had "other serious illnesses." Fauci told the ABC program "Good Morning America" on Tuesday that the CDC guidance, last updated on Aug. 26, indicates that of the people who have died from the virus, "a certain percentage of them had nothing else but just Covid." However, people with underlying illnesses also die from Covid-19, he said. "That does not mean that someone who has hypertension or diabetes who dies of Covid didn't die of Covid-19. They did," Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told the program. "So the numbers you've been hearing -- there are 180,000-plus deaths -- are real deaths from Covid-19. Let (there) not be any confusion about that." "It's not 9,000 deaths from Covid-19, it's 180-plus-thousand deaths," Fauci said. am thinking is good we got memorialization o' the original misleading info 'cause w/o is easier to dismiss gullibility and ignorance o' faceless masses. tell selves, "who could possibly fall for such obvious claptrap?" (am old enough that we actual use words like "claptrap," so sue us.) we marginalize those who don't know enough to know better, but these folks is also affected by the pandemic direct and indirect. their behaviour impacts others, including their own family members and friends, and they are not self aware enough to see selves as acting irresponsible. these nameless and faceless persons read something somewhere which tells 'em there is so much overreaction to covid-19 which is what they want to believe instead o' acknowledging the reality, a reality which is all to clear that the failure to take more serious action has placed the US near the bottom o' relative world deaths as a percentage o' population... and that is with first world medicine keeping deaths lower than would be the case in many nations who don't have mayo clinics and mt. sinai medical. were only one person on these boards who needs face unfortunate history regarding embarrassing promotion and tenacious embrace o' bad info, but is chances he weren't alone in believing the hogwash being promoted by many including the POTUS. should be a teachable moment, but hurl is far better suited for such than old Gromnir. am not particular motivated to empathize with those we see as lost cause, but such shouldn't stop others from doing the right thing. HA! Good Fun! ps https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/adults/reasons-to-vaccinate.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/index.html vaccines is, relative speaking, safe. you need to be open and honest with your doctor about existing medical conditions and any drugs you might currently be taking, but real long-term serious side-effects and dangers o' any common available vaccine approved by the fda is gonna be low, and much lower than dangers o' contracting or spreading diseases. talk with a doctor. we may make you feel embarrassed about questioning the safety o' vaccines, but is highly unlikely your doctor will behave so unprofessional. ask. don't rely on the internet.

nope, but call out lies for what they are shouldn't be something we do only with a magistrate forcing us to do so. lie 'bout antifa doesn't sudden become ok 'cause vol sees 'em as bad. state allows pro-life people to put flyers on car windshields at a state fair but not a white supremacist group? why? what is the basis for the difference in treatment? if the chilling behaviour is based on the content o' the message, then is unconstitutional. no guilt for Gromnir. we shouldn't need explain such. late edit: am hopeful is an unnecessary clarification, but strict speaking we didn't defend as we were invariably the plaintiff's attorney and the government were defense. HA! Good Fun! ps the only clients we ever actual regretted defending were purveyors o' adult entertainment 'cause our efforts directly resulted in more exploitation o' women who were statistic vulnerable.

proof. we have pointed out the inaccuracy o' vol crazy train generalizations of antifa and blm. is not same as defending the behaviours, and goals o' antifa. show where antifa as an organization supports rape as a tactic. you made such a claim and never backed it up with proof. constant recognizing the rabid and unsubstantiated gross generalizations made by vol concerning any number o' groups is not support o' such groups. as an attorney, we represented gangs and white supremacists and religious groups with questionable motives (cults.) we made certain each such client understood how we personal found their organization and members to be repugnant gutter trash and if we saw 'em bleeding to death in an alley we would possibly hesitate before calling 911, so help us God. such personal disgust did not prevent us from defending their first amendment claims, 'cause even though we saw such clients as ambulatory human offal, they might nevertheless be victims o' injustice. history made clear to us how it weren't so long ago that naacp and homosexuals were treated the same way we felt 'bout the kkk and the crips and recent events should make clear to all that society may regress as well as evolve. we criticized vol. is ez and is the right thing to do. criticize vol is not the same as supporting antifa. HA! Good Fun!

dude, if the only point o' the video is self-gratification, am gonna observe your kink is more than passing odd. also, while am ambivalent about blm (am thinking their lack o' coordination and leadership does as much to hurt the movement as help,) our position on antifa has been consistent critical. we will again wait for your proof o' antifa support. HA! Good Fun!

point to where we suggested anybody should be forced to take the vaccine much less executed for not taking it. HA! Good Fun!

Justice Department investigating BLM protest leaders, funding in Portland and other cities is not as if Gromnir has a crystal ball. this kinda thing is predictable and is the reason blm doesn't have a real organization or leadership structure. authoritarian governments target group leadership to suppress the message, which is precise why hong kong protests has eschewed leadership. even so, we stated earlier how perhaps blm needs a face and a voice to combat the wh lies 'bout the protests and protesters, but this kinda concerted effort by the state is designed to discourage anybody from taking a leadership role. and vol clip which takes innumerable quotes outta context is hardly compelling. we will however happily concede that folks like johnny depp should be ignored. celebrity is not conferring some kinda special social awareness or wisdom. HA! Good Fun!

you are making flawed assumptions. younger and healthier people who refuse to take the vaccine will indeed spread it to old people. the vaccine will not be anywhere near 100% effective and many old people won't be able to take the vaccine regardless. you have reversed. the hardcore vaccine denialists, if they approach 30% or more of the population as is being reported in the US, will severe undercut the mitigation effects o' the vaccine. https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/how-effective-does-a-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine-need-to-be-to-stop-the "If the COVID-19 pandemic was just beginning and the population infected was close to zero percent, the simulations show that vaccine efficacy would have to be at least 60 percent to stop the coronavirus if the entire population was vaccinated. Given the number of susceptible people who couldn’t be vaccinated because of age or health problems and the number who would refuse to be vaccinated, that’s probably impossible." ... "How Many People Get Vaccinated Is Crucial "Based on these findings, a vaccine with an efficacy as low as 60 percent could still stop the pandemic and allow society to return to normal. However, most if not all of the population would have to be vaccinated. "This seems unlikely, given polls showing that only about three-quarters of Americans say they would get a coronavirus vaccine if assured that it was safe. "With fewer people protected, a vaccine would have to have an efficacy of at least 80 percent to be able to stop the pandemic by itself, meaning social distancing could be completely relaxed. This can provide a target to aim for when developing COVID-19 coronavirus vaccines." bruce has inverted the problem. HA! Good Fun!