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  1. not odd at all. not odd for trump. don't be surprised if trump brings up his monuments nonsense and proclaims we must not ignore history and culture. trump wants to give his base a victory speech. for over 100 years southerners has been made to feel guilty 'bout their support o' the confederacy and slavery, but trump is gonna give 'em a victory speech 'bout pride and he is gonna do it at gettysburg. when liberals attack trump for his acceptance speech, it will only further solidify trump's base. HA! Good Fun! ps this is calculated stephen miller and steve bannon bs at its worst, and it is gonna work.
  2. here we are in the middle of a pandemic, with protesters creating chaos in democratic cities across the country and you want to dwell on politics and complain about the location of a speech. how petty. *insert eye roll* you can already hear the response from alt-right radio and fox news pundits, yes? of course it is disrespectful for corporal bone spurs to use gettysburg as a prop. that is exact why he is doing it. do-nothing liberals and swamp creatures will complain and for at least a few hours coronavirus won't be the biggest story... will be just more proof the left isn't interested in fixing problems but is instead so anti-trump they can't let anything go. HA! Good Fun!
  3. please, explain further what is Gromnir's position on antifa and blm. doesn't much sound like our position, but you have such a curiously perverse perspective that we cannot help but wonder what else you will have your imaginary Gromnir proclaim in our absence. am also admitted curious 'bout how vol has come up with comparative murder rates for blm, antifa and the kkk-- am betting he ain't using fbi or any other reputable source. there isn't any kinda blm or antifa leadership of which to speak, so am not sure how they manage to brag. some rando person vol believes is speaking for blm or antifa said something 'bout rape? am gonna need context. will no doubt be disappointed by vol response, but we nevertheless wait for the proofs o' antifa and blm, as organizations, bragging 'bout their use o' rape to advance their goals. vol posts is a bit like watching the lighthouse save that vol is playing all roles and everything is 'bout racism and nazis. fascinating, if a bit disturbing. HA! Good Fun!
  4. ... this p00p bugs us on some level, 'cause rewriting history to make certain individuals look good is not helping prevent repeat of old failures. the c-span video of bush addressing the NIH is 30 minutes, but everybody reading should do selves a favor and watch it. HA! Good Fun! ps 4:11 is where bush mentions dr. fauci.
  5. barr is dangerous because he is competent. just one example, but multiple federal judges has criticized barr for his summary o' the mueller report, observing how the conclusions the ag reached were inconsistent with any plausible reading o' the report. is a couple o' crimes possible barr could be charged with related to his summary, but such requires proof o' criminal intent and even if there is such evidence to be found, is it practical to charge? short o' an email where barr states he knew his summary were a criminal misrepresentation o' a federal government document and that his purpose in misrepresenting were to personal benefit trump as 'posed to the PotUS, criminal charges is unlikely. is dozens o' instances where is not reasonable to believe barr were acting in the interest o' the American people as is his duty as ag. however, reasonable is not the language which is appropriate in a criminal prosecution. for criminal, need a significant step beyond unreasonable and typical the intent o' criminal purpose need be proven. barr's dangerous belief the authority o' office o' the President is limitless save for the obvious accountability to the electorate every four years and the possibility o' impeach and convict by Congress is extreme. is almost no legal scholars who share barr's view, but such a fringe reading o' article 2 while misguided and obvious dangerous is not necessarily criminal in and of itself. barr could be impeached and convicted by Congress. maybe. wouldn't necessarily matter if barr were no longer ag. for instance, if the senate weren't a bunch o' sniveling cowards and sycophants and it became obvious earlier this year the senate were gonna vote to convict trump, the President could not have resigned before conviction and then still run for Presidency in november. no longer in office don't necessarily prevent Congress from acting. 'course what would be the point? worse, would establish a dubious precedent. the framers never considered the possibility o' our current Congress. in 1787 it were believed senators would obvious recognize the abuse o' power o' a President or ag and regardless o' partisanship they would be more concerned with the integrity o' the Constitution than party loyalty. how could senators ignore something like fed police acting against the will of state and local government to arrest protesters? w/i a few decades o' the adoption o' the Constitution, the framers no doubt realized their error, but it were already too late. their mistake is our burden. HA! Good Fun! ps barr is our nominee for most dangerous man in washington dc. much o' trump's early legal efforts were marred by gross incompetence and almost comical bungling. barr, whatever his faults, is not incompetent... possible glaring exception were barr's firing o' the us attorney o' ny. competence makes barr a threat to democracy but also makes his prosecution for crimes unlikely.
  6. one way the trump administration is getting away with this nonsense, other than too many Americans turning a blind eye to such excesses, is the fact that extreme few people has been charged. the arrests is a terror tactic, bold and unapologetic, but w/o charges, the basis for a civil rights claim for those whisked away in vans w/o warrants or probable cause is functional eliminated. the feds don't have authority to do what they is doing, but w/o charges to create a cause o' action, the Courts can't stop the fed police from continuing their naked villainy people are being imprisoned (dictionary definition) w/o there being a real threat o' prison. is not as if trump is coming up with these schemes. oh sure, trump is demanding his justice department make a show o' force, but william barr is the guy who is actualizing this crap and weaponizing legislation which is only tangential related to what is being done. the portland protesters is not, save for perhaps in the tortured imagination o' vol, serious attempting to overthrow the government o' the United States of America. nevertheless, william barr is using insurrection laws to arrest and Not charge people as a way o' displaying the tough on crime stance trump wants to project. get rid o' trump in november elections is increasing vital given the extremes william barr is going to to enable the corrupt and tyrannical whims o' the President. HA! Good Fun!
  7. as a non-native, am tending to agree. placebo effect and benefits o' a plan may produce results for any number o' indulgences o' quackery, but am always surprised how quickly noteworthy numbers o' californians latch onto the weirdest fads. granola moms and fixation on celebrity endorsements? no idea what is the root causes. ... 'course pretty much every culture and subculture got weirdness. any number o' rhino and tiger species are facing extinction in part 'cause o' weird "medical" beliefs not attributable to californians. HA! Good Fun!
  8. am recalling in february, when science didn't know 'bout asymptomatic spread and we got videos such as the following: were a nice opportunity to feel justifiable superior to the chinese government. ... fast-forward to august and isn't hard to find youtube video o' some woman being attacked in a home depot 'cause she don't have a mask. is equal ez to find video o' some home depot employee being brutal assaulted 'cause he asked a customer to don a mask. adversity brings out the extremes in people--best and worst. gabriel coulda' waited for 2020. HA! Good Fun!
  9. am familiar with bloom but am also aware o' the school administration and state preoccupation with standardized tests which, regardless o' your colorful and balanced pie, overwhelming stresses knowledge for subjects such as history. your state measures success o' history teachings by measuring the knowledge o' students, and history teachers is functional judged based on the success o' students on such tests. maybe hurl yells, "damn the torpedoes," as he rushes ahead with his own teaching approach, but is hard to imagine such a focus on knowledge fails to impact most educators. is other states radical different? and it don't appear to be functional different for english or other skill focused subjects. maybe tell us 'bout modalities as well? use music to teach english is kewl, but there appears to be a disconnect between what hurl is saying is being taught and the preparedness o' students to actual achieve in higher education and real world. stress again how important is skills and critical thinking to you and other teachers, but university 1a classes is filled with kids who cannot write and the bar exam is increasing being failed 'cause there is a gap in education somewhere, and like it or not, law school education changes very little. Most colleges enroll students who aren’t prepared for higher education ca public universities (community college and csu at least) fixed their remedial learners problem by no longer forcing students to take remedial classes. 'course now csu professors need coddle students 'cause those students weren't educated in high school. am not sure how such is a solution. https://edsource.org/2018/cal-state-starts-new-era-ending-no-credit-remedial-classes/604470 ... we are sending too many kids to university. a college degree is not a golden ticket and should not be viewed as some kinda proof o' worth. utter bs. the thing is, am thinking it is a mistake to continue to lower the bar as a solution when we see students failing. is bass ackwards and doesn't mesh with real world demands. test is too hard, so solution is to change test or let student retest? is not just old guy syndrome which drives our concern. Gromnir did it a certain way, so everybody else needs suffer? no. dumb. as we said, am ok with 5th graders getting the touchy-feely approach, but eventual the students gotta be taught not only subject matter, but survival skills. law school classes, ordinary, got two grading opportunities: midterm and final. that's it. no homework and is only a few classes which have essay/paper requirements. you got two chances to get it right in a law school class and the mid-term counts far less than the final. am ok with such harshness 'cause real world lawyering is even less forgiving, unless your dad or mom has their name on the door o' the firm. @Amentep sounds like you are describing the US medical licensing exam, which strict speaking ain't residency. regardless, is having a +95% first-time passage rate. your time frames is misleading 'cause is actual such an overabundance o' time to complete as 'posed to a race 'gainst the clock. 'ccording to doctors we speak to, the tough exams as part o' their education is med school, but again, am less familiar with testing n' such o' residency if only 'cause doctors we know don't mention such stuff much if at all. HA! Good Fun! ps california bar exam is only offered 2x a year, so kinda apples and oranges regardless.
  10. including territories, is approx three dozen locales where a person may take as many times as need w/o restriction, so based on hurl's curious approach, the prospective attorney may simple go to california or new york if they fail too many times in arizona. 'course again, to take the bar exam in california if one original went to school in arizona would mean the prospective lawyer attended an aba accredited school as 'posed to state accredited or some other state-specific exception. ca also has one o' the more rigorous bar exams with the lowest passage rate in the US, but is actual more forgiving than it once were. for many years and throughout the 90s, were a three-day test (+7 hour days) but as bar passage rates slipped past 50%, changes were made and one day were removed so is now only a two-day kick in the teeth as 'posed to a three-day triathlon: essay question; performance test; multi-state multiple choice. multi-state has stayed same, but the essay and performance test has been effective halved. am not certain why ca were so wedded to three days for so long. were as much an endurance test as anything. we took two other bar exams and am not sure which were graded more difficult or were more difficult to pass (you only know your score if you fail,) but the ca testing were most memorable 'cause o' the fatigue at the end o' day three. HA! Good Fun! ps if you pass the bar first time you may become a bar exam test grader. stoopid. get paid based on number of tests graded. time spent reading and grading an hour-long essay is a matter o' a few minutes. therefore, the people grading is not spending any time delving for answers. most important thing an examinee can do is to make their written responses simple and clear. do not expect to be coddled. pps (apologies) oh... fudge. just checked and last few years has seen precipitous ca bar passage rate drops. the students ca teachers is preparing is becoming less and less capable o' basic foundational stuff 'cause february 2020 ca bar passage rate were 26.8%. regardless, has been steady decline in spite o' fact, as we noted, test were made easier.
  11. as long as one understands is just for the funny, 'cause an indoor activity with folks a few feet apart, direct facing each other and breathing heavy, don't seem like the best example. perhaps redesign masks? sabre masks is best, but still hardly ideal. the wire mesh looks more obtrusive from pov o' your photo. and "fantastic ventilation," has never been our first thought 'pon entering a fencing salon, though admitted it has now been more than five years since last time we picked up our sabre. am usual accepting crap ventilation if is at least well lit. even so, we recognize the joke. HA! Good Fun!
  12. sure, but you need also graduate law school. for a long time, there were a single state exception to the law school requirement: louisiana. no longer an exception. so sure, you can go to Princeton and fail and is possible to then go to university o' virginia, and fail. don't give up and instead go to university of buffalo and fail and final apply and get accepted to american samoa law... which don't actual exist btw. we were talking 'bout teaching and school, yes? this were all in response to a teacher allowing multiple tests takings. am suspecting there might be a law school somewheres which allows a student to re-do ad nauseum, but is not gonna be an aba accredited school, which is gonna at least initial make you presumed goal o' working as an attorney far less likely. teach a kid endless redo is an option is not practical rl experience and it sure as heck don't prepare you for any advanced degree work we ever hear o' neither; not gonna get through law school that way and not grad school for sure. the bar exam? sure. one extra body in a huge room o' sweating and nervous humanity requires no resources to make available another opportunity to charge test fees. is no Teaching involved in the bar exam save self-teach. brings to mind a singular example. we knew the story o' a guy who were a vietnam vet and he literal had brain damage. not dribble cup brain damage, but he had difficulty with certain aspects o' cognition. the guy took the ca bar every year, twice a year, for something like eight years. eventual a veterans group, after veteran's story made local tv news, cobbled together money and came up with specialized tutoring, and the guy failed again, but he did eventual pass the bar. the thing is, the veteran never did law school as he took an extreme unlikely apprenticeship route which is even more difficult today than it were in the 70s. regardless, am not thinking that existence o' an exceptional example somehow proves your point. gonna actual defend the redo test scheme by pointing out it is possible to spend years retaking bar exam or medical boards? need retake test multiple times would seem to be proof that somewhere along the line the educational process failed. if point to graduate law school or med school is to, in part, prepare you to pass bar exam and/or boards, then need retake such tests over and over is just proof the teaching model failed. btw, pretty much every law school posts their first time bar passage rate compared to statewide bar passage rate, 'cause such is deemed an important measure o' relative value o' the education provided. as to your most recent comment, am gonna note how dismissive we were earlier o' the mindless knowledge tests which demand the student regurgitate data or proper identify facts, as if such is somehow meaningful. redo such tests is even more pointless as is zero chance the student proves learning by redo. the bar exam, for example, is not testing knowledge o' facts. even the multi-state multiple choice portion does not simple ask what is the rule of law in dumpor's case. instead there will be a unique question the examinee has likely never considered specific which involves successive assignments by leaseholder and if examinee understands the rule in dumpor's, they should be able to pick the correct answer from the provided list o' options. nevertheless, am understanding hurl don't have a choice. current models and requirements means that he needs cover multiple significant events, people and conflicts during a relative short period o' time, and state exams will then test to make certain his students were actual exposed to all that nonsense which any kid who knows how to access google may self-teach if hurl has provide more important learning skills. am personal amazed so many trained educators nevertheless embrace the current models. hurl teaches middle school, yes? why not take a semester and teach protestant reformation or post civil war reconstruction. nothing else. go deep rather than broad and make certain kids know how to do research and real analysis and critical thinking. teach kids how to read critical and then write persuasive. every kid already knows how to use internet to discover facts, so teach 'em facts is a waste o' effort in our mind. should be teaching kids skills and how to learn. but again, am understanding hurl don't have autonomy. nevertheless, am baffled by current goals o' teaching; even if we is told how important is critical thinking and problem solving, is clear such stuff is not a priority on those standardized tests which measure student/teaching success. HA! Good Fun! ps am not knowing what happened to the vietnam vet after he became a lawyer. our understanding is he went to work for a firm and were successful practicing for at least a few years, but the feel good story were pretty much completed with the eventual bar passage by a guy who had been severe injured in vietnam and nevertheless persevered in spite o' improbable obstacles.
  13. am not sure what med schools hurl is imagining. in grad school and law school we couldn't fail classes w/o risk o' being kicked out o' the program. grad school "fail" meant less than a 3.0. day 1 law school started off with the traditional look-left-and-look-right speech. at least 1/3 won't make the cut. limited spaces and resources meant keeping dead weight 'round waiting for an epiphany moment were not gonna happen. competitive med schools is more relaxed than law school? maybe, but would be a surprise. regardless, you don't graduate med school and know how to do genuine surgery neither. residency is where you learn to be a doctor for reals. ... am admitting we know less 'bout residency than we should. residency models as described to us all sound archaic and stoopid. regardless, am having a hard time imagining young doctors is being coddled during residency. HA! Good Fun! ps is our understanding dentists actual beat doctors for many o' the stuff christine lahti mentions. the business side o' being a dentist is particular unforgiving.
  14. am suspecting gd knows enough to realize such an observation hurts his position rather than helps. DISCRIMINATION AGAINST MUSLIM WOMEN - FACT SHEET first and fourteenth amendments to the Constitution makes wearing o' such garb a protected right. in fact even if you could show that somehow wearing a burqa or hijab somehow endangered fellow citizens (am not even gonna try and imagine a relevant hypothetical) the government would need show they were addressing a compelling state interest by the least restrictive means possible. more extreme and arguable butting up against the good public health angle, amish and christian scientists has won any number o' cases 'gainst the state when there is a conflict 'tween free exercise o' religion and the public welfare. 'course state and fed governments nevertheless has a history o' attempting to curtail religious practices o' fringe or disreputable religions by invoking public health. santerians has been oblique targeted with all kinda transparent health code ordinance adoptions as an attempted end around on the Constitution. such efforts fail near 100%, but state and local governments, responsive to their provincial and bigoted constituencies, keep trying. regardless, the theoretical agreements doesn't help 'cause such ain't actual theoretical in the United States, and "rights" don't mean same thing in the US as they do elsewheres. have attempted to explain previous how free speech in US is different. so too is search and seizure laws and the exclusionary rule is almost complete unique to the US, for better or worse. 'course kinda/sorta/not really similar to your driving example, which am doubting would get much legal traction in any US court, is stuff such as basic health care, which a growing number o' people believe should be a fundamental right. right to drive beyond your private property ain't even close to getting a sniff as far as being a potential Constitutional Amendment, and is nothing which would allow even the most flexible legal scholar to imagine into existing common law, case law or legislative history a fundamental right to drive. health care, on the other hand, is something we see as a legit possible amendment in the foreseeable future. while the current Presidential administration has a rather loose grasp o' law and no respect for the Constitution, the Courts remain protectors o' fundamental rights, and while am knowing this conversation has happened more than once, fundamental rights is treated different in the US compared to many/most western nations. when gd and Gromnir speak o' rights, we ain't necessarily speaking same language as folks in the rest o' the world. before anybody gets all sensitive and channels their inner nationalist, am not suggesting US model is better... save for specific the first amendment protections, which am indeed asserting is better than pretty much everywhere else, so there. dedication to fundamental rights means we are all too often protecting genuine evil doers from government interference and prosecution. defendants who has been proven guilty may walk free. kkk members spewing hate and intolerance may burn crosses and active attempt to sew discord and they get same protections as blm activists or 1970s hippie peaceniks. slumlord son-in-law o' prez uses privacy laws to avoid investigations into his questionable business practices. such is the cost o' liberty and is valid and compelling arguments the US does it wrong... with exception o' first amendment. congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. gd may have forgotten the rights o' free speech and religious exercise exists as a prohibition on government action, but am more confident he recognizes the comparative value US Courts afford such rights. HA! Good Fun!
  15. you sure as heck are. last response 'cause am disappointed we need have this discussion with gd. go ahead and tell us to avoid maskless d-bags on an elevator who crowd in despite protocols. point out is our responsibility to avoid those grocery store folks when they come up behind you in checkout line and there is literal nowhere to avoid or literal brush past us from behind to get at the yogurt instead o' waiting for us to move or simple asking us to move. etc. btw, is the same people who got their curious liberty notions regarding seatbelts, drunk driving and covid-19 mask mandates who is also not following social distancing guidelines. you provide limited examples o' what a person may to do to minimize the dangers o' maskless morons while ignoring fact the costs o' your choice is potential death. we aren't talking fundamental rights, so such costs is very much a factor. with no way to accurate attribute blame, and a libertarian inexplicable and beyond all expectation shifting blame onto victims, we still must needs balance your liberty interests and the social costs. that is the point o' the democratic process. pretty much every law entails such balancing--speed limits to toxic waste dumping. as a people we weigh costs to society v. value o' liberty. costs https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ it's a freaking mask for chrissakes. a libertarian suggesting that the "right" to go w/o masks is legit 'cause is our duty to mitigate the admitted irresponsibility o' the maskless d-bags? seriously? that is not how libertarianism has been sold in our neck o' the woods. so much for personal responsibility being paramount, eh? and yes, there should be laws which make you extinguish your cigarette in a restaurant even if it is possible for Gromnir to move away from you or leave the establishment. and sure, most drunk driving accidents happen on the road between the hours o' midnight and 3am, so clear all those victims is pushing their luck by driving at such times, but we gotta protect the right o' folks to decide for selves if they are fit to drive after drinking? your seatbelt? well, is no way we can avoid paying for such stoopid, so am not sure how to give you even tongue-in-cheek benefit o' the doubt. society as a whole is the victim, so... mask mandates v. an imaginary right when we are looking at +160k american dead and estimates o' 300k from the washington model promoted by the wh by end of the year? where is the personal responsibility? fundamental rights? sure. through the admitted cumbersome constitutional convention and amendment process we has decided, as a nation, that gd's liberty rights insofar as freedom o' religious exercise means other people may need to mitigate their discomfort 'cause we won't use the government institutions to curb such behaviours. is a relative short list o' such liberties, and for good reason. the reason the list is short is 'cause such liberties is a bar on democracy. HA! Good Fun!
  16. The White House Has ‘Asked About the Process to Add a President to Mount Rushmore’ with any other President, one would think we were linking an onion article. HA! Good Fun!
  17. no you can't always avoid the latter as anybody who has been to a grocery store these past months should be aware... and you are shifting responsibility to the victims which is exact opposite o' what any self-described libertarian should do. oh, and seat belts is another great example particular given recent turn of the thread. is costly to scrape your uninsured arse off the pavement. it costs Gromnir and everybody else money to save your life and then support your infirm self for perhaps decades. we, The People, says "no mas." you got no right to forgo seatbelt wearing and your fellow citizens has decided your irresponsible behaviour is too costly to endure. so wear the damned seat belt and don't smoke in restaurants and use a freaking mask. The People is the government, through democratic process fought for by those "no taxation w/o representation" guys, who make their collective will known. yeah, if fundamental rights is involved, then The People can go sit and spin. otherwise, take some personal responsibility and appeal to the democratic process. victim blaming is unexpected cheap. HA! Good Fun!
  18. had a class at berkeley which were kinda unique. english 1a were the basic writing skills class everybody in, as far as we know, every public CA college system needs take to get any kinda degree. is one o' those classes which professors lament 'cause the % o' incoming students unprepared for the course is increasing. anywho, our professor for 1a, this old guy who looked exact like walt whitman, informed class there were no grades 'less we wanted 'em and we only needed attend class until we proved we had attained satisfactory 1a proficiency. we were to be assigned an essay every week, and if in week one we proved we were skilled at writing, we would never again need attend class. point o' class, 'ccording to walt whitman's doppelganger, were to provide us with the writing skills needed to succeed in university, so stay in class after having proven such proficiency were not required. ... thought the guy were joking. am embarrassed to admit it took us until week two to pass the class. we got no problem with tracy edwards approach, depending on the nature o' her tests. if is mindless multiple choice and short answer knowledge tests, then offer same test multiple times is not gonna show learning. if is random kinda essay questions exams, not necessarily same exact test, or some other skill-based measure, then am okie dokie with rinse and repeat. if goal is to promote learning, then multiple stabs at same target is hardly problematic. 'course one needs also recognize how at some point the do-over mentality won't cut it. if you train kids to expect second and third chances, then when they gets to a competitive university or to real world, they may not be prepared for the cold and harsh reality o' life. focus on 5th graders learning material as 'posed to being concerned 'bout achieving a specific grade? fine. but how 'bout eighth grade? or tenth? HA! Good Fun!
  19. weed is pretty freaking terrible if your brain hasn't fully developed. we got no problem with restricting weed sales if only to keep out o' the hands o' young people. unfortunate reality is weed is most popular with the age groups who is most susceptible to problems. young people. an adult in 30s or older? am not certain what is the motivation for criminalizing the use o' weed by folks who is at least 30. what is the minimum age for most states which has legalized pot? should probable be 25 based on studies, but am doubtful you could make more than 21 given inevitable but inappropriate paralleles to alcohol. am ok with whatever the democratic process decides as we got no personal axe to grind on this topic, but we recognize how folks is over-dismissive o' the dangers o' cannabis use on developing brains, and brains frequent continue to develop into late 20s. why should Gromnir care if kids is forcibly damaging their brains? 'cause is social costs for such behaviours even if such ain't apparent at age 15 or 18 or 21. is no reason we should need pay for young people being stoopid... or young people making themselves even more stoopid. HA! Good Fun!
  20. you are channeling vol and skarp_one. honest. as we predicted, gd blames and meme and simultaneous defends. sheesh. this is not the late show with you providing opportunities for Gromnir to do his carnac the magnificent impressions. and gd has weird ideas 'bout who is government and what is the purpose o' its existence. if a large number o' people engage in an activity they should not be doing, particular activities which put lives at others at risk, The People reasonable respond by demanding those irresponsible people stop their dangerous behaviours. is why we got drunk driving laws. The People, through elected representatives and democratic process decide that drunk drivers need nannies. most o' us can see the wisdom in not relying on personal responsibility o' drunkards and callous d-bags who get behind the wheel after drinking. sure, one may say many drunk drivers has never caused an accident, so why do we criminalize for behaviour which ain't yet actual caused harm? is even less rationale for applying gd's should not rationale to masks. at least with the drunk driver we ordinarily know who is responsible for accidents. yeah, there is hit & run situations, but typical we know who caused the accident which killed a woman and two o' her kids when a drunk driver swerved into oncoming traffic on a 2-lane highway. with covid-19, the person responsible for death o' grandma may be complete unknown. some maskless jerk at a supermarket spreads covid-19 infecting a couple other people, and those asymptomatic people spread to others, and so on and so on. eventual, an otherwise careful person nevertheless becomes infected and brings the disease home to grandma. proximate cause nightmare does not change reality o' an unnecessary death. gd argument presumes personal responsibility, but covid makes it extreme difficult to assign responsibility. there is no right to be maskless. democratic process says behaviours and activities is fair game for legislation as long as law passed is rational related to espoused goal and don't otherwise abridge some other fundamental right. rational. reasonable. and again, takes into consideration other fundamental rights 'pon which The People may not tread. gd's stand on masklessness "right" is a matter o' principle? generalized notion government should not tell folks what to do? gd admits it ain't reasonable to be maskless, and seems to realize there is no actual right to masklessness. nevertheless, gd defends right to engage in a dangerous activity which makes assigning personal responsibility problematic. *snort* as to the US healthcare system, am admitting it is broken, just not the way most people assume, and costs o' fixing is rare genuine considered before making changes. hospitals is stoopid and is caught in an insane cycle, but +90% o' the time they ain't gouging folks. the reason why folks with no insurance may sometimes/infrequent negotiate bills which is pennies on the dollar is precise 'cause the current business model assumes X number o' folks will not be able to pay. prices o' procedures keep rising because hospitals need to cover the costs o' many unpaid hospital bills. is absolute idiotic and insane, but the entire industry is caught up in the self-perpetuating insanity. in the 80s, bob went into the hospital for burst appendix and surgery saved him. lucky for him? he couldn't pay his bill 'cause insurance only covered a fraction of costs. hospital didn't wanna show as a loss, so they kept bob's bill on the books as long as possible, and as a solution they raised the price o' a bunch o' other procedures in hopes o' recouping what they knew would need be a loss. 'course bob's credit were destroyed, but at least his life were saved. a couple years later, doug has a burst appendix and same problem as bob, but the hospital has been raising costs since bob. is now even more folks like doug than there were in bobs time 'cause prices increased so much... and so on and so on and so on... is all complete insane. procedure costs went up cause so many people couldn't pay their bills, and 'cause costs went up, more people failed to pay bills and the industry as a whole started charging more 'cause o' the obvious (albeit flawed) logic. after all, if hospitals were charging more for procedures, then why aren't doctors and nurses making more money? costs go up and everybody wants a cut, which only exacerbated the problem. and am only addressing one underreported issue with healthcare. is so many things wrong with the healthcare system and while is a few notorious sinister mercenaries who make headline news, the general problems ain't a result o' greed or graft. decades ago the medical industry adopted a self-perpetuating scheme o' stoopid and they got no way to extract themselves from the mess they collective created. folks like bernie is part o' the problem, though ironic, his approach to the healthcare may be the only possible way to deal with the issues. bernie plan for healthcare reform appeals to many precise 'cause is big picture and general. actual costs is just details for bernie. you can't just bottom line costs if you ignore a whole bunch o' costs such as billing industry evaporating overnight and the current debt load hospitals is current carrying... debt load which has been made worse by covid-19 btw as elective surgeries is how many hospitals were carrying staying above water 'cause o' bobs and dougs, and those elective surgeries aren't happening. charlie fox. the thing is, if you know all the details and costs, it is gonna paralyze you. is no way to get legislators on board en masse once costs is presented intelligent and thoughtful. as most reasonable people would expect, but few wanna admit, there is no simple and ez solution to healthcare. bernie's plan sucks. bernie is misleading on costs. ok. now what? am thinking we gotta recognize there is no good plan and perhaps what is more important is getting people to support change. is so against our personal nature, but perhaps we can resolve to work out the details later, but what is most important today is getting people to agree that wholesale change is required. bernie's plan sucks, but it may be the plan we need. 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  21. 1) you don't have a right to abstain from wearing a mask in many situations. is not debatable. perhaps gd believes everyone should have a right to forgo masks, but is not actual a legal right. need discuss? hope not. 'course the hastily crafted venn diagram complete misses the point many freedom loving patriots similar ignore and that is even if there were a right to not wear a mask, would it be wise to do so? the florida man who set a quran on fire had a right to do so. fed government had no authority to stop florida man from doing his florida thing. however, burn quran is nevertheless a contemptible act which should be criticized by all. both you and florida man got the right to free speech. such freedom provides you with Personal Responsibility. "right to ________ " thorough misunderstood concept. problem with rights is people conflate noun with the adjective. just 'cause you have a right don't mean exercise o' such is the right thing to do. 2) fact some is taking political advantage o' school reopening, or covid in general, does not alter the underlying science gonna ignore the tinfoil hat bit 'bout "public control," but there is no doubt any number o' skeevy political creatures is using fears related to schools to further polarize their bases. so what? can say such 'bout any political relevant issue. were a whole lotta northern politicians who didn't care one bit 'bout slavery in the early 1860s who nevertheless chastised and ridiculed southern democrats. fact there were indeed politicians who were exploiting the slavery issue for personal political gain didn't change inherent evils o' slavery. particular with so many single parents who do not work at home, school openings is a vital concern and predictable the political vultures is swooping in to get their piece o' the quickly decomposing carrion. distraction. irrelevant. any political charged issue with enough people interested will bring out more than one political vulture. so what? 'course gd is out on the fringe where he presumes they, the ubiquitous political operatives at all levels of government, is all corrupt... or at least so uniform corrupt that any choice makes no difference. *insert eye roll* blame on meme? am suspecting gd will defend, and then blame on meme. can't have both ways. *shrug* HA! Good Fun!
  22. once again you go speaking for Gromnir when is best to only speak for self. am not certain how many times you need be confronted with the same error. HA! Good Fun!
  23. what makes the gop pushing the kanye campaign particular curious, beyond his attacks on harriet tubman is the recognition that pollsters believe kanye west voters will not be minorities-- will be young male nihilists who ain't minority. thus far, kanye's appeal is limited to a small subset o' trump voters. HA! Good Fun!
  24. Kanye West indicates that his spoiler campaign is indeed designed to hurt Biden headline misleads a bit, but is a fun/brief read. HA! Good Fun!
  25. ordinarily when we speak o' an artist sounding as if they is in pain while singing, we speak o' emotional pain. or virtual any fiona apple song evar. russian guy is fantastic, but literal sounds as if he is suffering. ... am admitting we like performance precise 'cause he sounds as if he is perpetual on the cusp o' descending into a fit o' lung cancer coughing. HA! Good Fun!
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