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this is just wrong. depends on the investigation, but one assumes is gonna take time. is rare a smoking gun situation as is common in movies and tv. kinda amusing, but giuliani helped change the way criminal conspiracy prosecutions occurred. is not 'bout going after trump or perceived ringleaders. find connections 'tween lower and mid-level folks, get leverage and then move your way up the evil food chain. many o' the individuals who organized the stop the steal event on january 6 are Congressmen and state ag. going after such folks is problematic. doj and fbi sure as hell ain't gonna volunteer information 'bout ongoing investigations save for if they had abandoned such efforts. you actual have bass ackwards. we are months removed from the event in question and there has been virtual no doj or fbi announcements. the silence actual implies there is indeed an ongoing investigation taking place. is best to assume folks is being investigated and this doj is far less leaky than the previous incarnation. could be sometime before you hear anything. keep in mind, am not suggesting there is gonna be a wave o' indictments forthcoming. am having no such insights. all am saying is you is complete wrong to suggest a few months removed from the event sans charges filed is at all suggestive o' an exoneration o' key figures. HA! Good Fun!

@BruceVCthe fact the detainees is not citizens is irrelevant as to whether the camps is deserving the concentration modifier. even in your supplied definitions, is no special exclusion for non citizens, eh? in the US this observation is particular relevant as non citizens is afforded many/most Constitutional protections. right to due process is one such right. in the event o' criminal charges, the right to a speedy trial is also provided to citizens and non-citizens alike. deny liberty for an extended period o' time? is presumptive requiring a criminal prosecution. why do you need a trial or hearing? 'cause is in the Constitution. again, everybody gets due process. period. most folks who enter the US not at designated checkpoints is on buses and trains outta the country w/i days, but if you ask for asylum or have some other legal described right for a hearing, then you gotta be given such a hearing. you think is silly or wrong? change the Constitution. change laws regarding asylum seekers. until then, these folks is deserving their due process. if bruce, a non-citizen o' the US, is driving in sheboygan, wi and he gets a ticket for making an improper turn at an intersection, would it be appropriate to imprison bruce for months or years in conditions objective deplorable 'cause the traffic court is backed up? denied liberty 'cause o' a traffic ticket? please. border crossing is not criminal. is a minor civil infraction the equivalent o' a traffic violation. bruce is gonna argue is ok to imprison 'cause bruce is a non citizen and 'cause the facility where he is held is described as a temporary detainment or relocation facility? what the government chooses to name the camps is not relevant. what is relevant is many is denied liberty, w/o due process while suffering legally objective unsatisfactory conditions. perhaps change name o' ice facilities to visitor hostels or immigrant resorts? change name or government designation makes a difference? and is best for bruce not to make motivations pivotal. the trump administration, in internal memos, made clear many o' their efforts at the border were designed to be so unpleasant as to discourage other asylum seekers and immigrants from making the journey to the US. were not simple a matter o' unavoidable poor conditions resulting from too few resources for too many people. and if there is too few resources, then as 'tween liberty o' the detainee and the burden on the State, the detainee wins. is not a fuzzy grey area o' the law. like it or not, cost is not an argument which may be used to limit fundamental rights. you may believe US laws is stoopid. fine. complain the laws and the Constitution should be changed. however, until that happens... @Guard Dog we musta missed the press conference where the doj announced they were unequivocal not considering the prosecution o' trump for any action related to January 6. such an announcement woulda' been big news and a bit premature. as we stated previous, is unlikely trump is prosecuted for incitement. what is less clear is whether there will be prosecutions for conspiracy to incite. organize events with goal o' convincing a mass o' people to interfere with the electoral college process at the US freaking Capitol? doj ain't gonna go after trump first, but some o' the organizers o' the stop the steal event o' january 6 is gonna be pressed hard, and they is possible they is gonna face a choice 'tween taking the fall or covering for a guy who is no longer capable o' granting self-serving (illegal) pardons. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/u-s-capitol-police-officer-gives-his-account-of-the-jan-6-attack HA! Good Fun!

@BruceVCtime of war is not an element o' the definition. "usually during a war," is how your simple dictionary definition describes, yes? and you appear convinced the chinese efforts rise to a level where you would describe as concentration camps in spite o' absence o' war, so might as well just round file the war bit. element v. factor. element is required. factor contributes. war is not an element o' the definition. moving on then, why do you ignore the rest of the definition you linked... though am thinking you probable could do better than an encyclopedia. Concentration camp, internment centre for political prisoners and members of national or minority groups who are confined for reasons of state security, exploitation, or punishment, usually by executive decree or military order. Persons are placed in such camps often on the basis of identification with a particular ethnic or political group rather than as individuals and without benefit either of indictment or fair trial... so, the government argues the need to imprison immigrants w/o due process o' law when those immigrants come from central and south america and cross at the us-mexico border, individuals who has committed no criminal act, while subjecting such persons to conditions the judges in the video found deplorable and systemic. again, the folks in ice detention have not been convicted o' any crime... for chrissakes bruce, they have not been given a trial or even a hearing. and is not Gromnir who is using interchangeable. as we noted, we have no idea what the situation is with denmark or australia's relocation facilities. are the detainees in rawanda being held w/o due process of law? if a specific group o' persons is being targeted and detained w/o due process of law, then am suspicious. why is bruce not? if those held w/o due process o' law is forced to endure conditions which US judges repeated has described as unacceptable, then am more than suspicious. why is bruc not similar skeptical of the relocation label? btw, given how vapid were the excuses for changes to ice guidelines and immigration practices under the trump administration, it would be ez to argue the victims o' the previous administration's nativism qualify as political prisoners, but we ain't even gonna bother going down that thorny path save to recognize the obviousness o' our avoidance. you disagree with chinse policy, so the chinese is deserving the concentration camps label. see, the problem is you are making a value judgement 'bout motivations as 'posed to looking at definitions and whether facts support the definition. but for the existence o' nazi death camps, am suspecting more people would be willing to describe ice detention facilities as concentration camps. the problem is you don't see the US as being as evil as the nazis or the 2021 chinese, and you do not see the treatment o' ice detainees as equivalent bad as ww2 jews or 2021 uyghurs. am gonna suggest bruce is doing wrong. dispassionate concentration camps definitions, w/o the nazi example, would be far less evocative. am suspecting bruce, like many other persons, is being distracted from the actual definitions as 'posed to judging situations based on how evidence supports the application o' those definitions. and again, an extreme important aspect bruce is overlooking is that the detainees in ice facilities is not having been convicted o' any crime or even having been afforded a hearing. no due process of law. btw, 'cause some is forgetting, a non-citizen crossing the US border other than at a designated checkpoint does not result in a violation o' criminal law. don't like that reality? think is wrong? fine. change the law. HA! Good Fun!

there is a tendency to conflate extermination camps and concentration camps. not the same thing. hopeful we don't need a venn diagram for something so obvious. the misunderstanding is based on ignorance but we s'pose is understandable given how the nazi death camps is what most folks think o' when concentration camps is referenced. japanese internment camps in the US during ww2 were not extermination facilities, but they were concentration camps. the cyprus internment camps for jews post ww2 fit the definition o' concentration camp w/o being extermination facilities. china and the uyghurs? not a tough question. if political/ethnic/religious groups is secured (imprisoned) together w/o full due process and in conditions substandard, then is a fair argument one has crossed the line between a relocation/detention facility and a concentration camp. the trump administration, for example, were making it near impossible for those in their immigrant detention facilities to actual have a meaningful legal hearing in addition to the ridiculous soap and sleep arguments made in the video. the obama administration were arguing it were ok to place mothers in solitary confinement, secluded from their children for considerable periods o' days/weeks if they complained 'bout conditions in their detention facilities... and the same freaking doj attorney argued for obama that such solitary confinement were okie dokie. if the failures o' a government to maintain basic standards o' health, safety, due process and human dignity is systematic as 'posed to just unfortunate isolated instances, then the reluctance to use the concentration camp label would appear to be mired in a kinda reflexive obtuseness as 'posed to being a reasonable conclusion. am unable to speak to australian or denmark's relocation camps. we got zero notion as to whether or not such facilities cross some line 'tween relocation facility and concentration camps. HA! Good Fun! ps perhaps we shoulda' added multiple trigger warnings.

Evil Incorporated makes multiple commercials about how much they value their employees and nobody cares. Big Oil Inc has an ad campaign which states they is concerned 'bout the environment and everybody just kinda rolls their eyes. raytheon makes their profile pic look like a color wheel more appropriate for kelly moore and it's newsworthy and a debate topic? ... well, ok then. am gonna admit am outta touch on a few issues. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/christian-right-worships-donald-trump-915381/ the bit about obama hoisting the rainbow flag being a slap in the face to evangelical christians and God were a genuine surprise to us. sure, we understood more than a few evangelicals were tending towards the extreme, but am thinking we vast underestimated just how widespread were the vitriol and venom. white and working class voted for obama in a big way. the implication it were obama's rainbow flag and trump's christian values which were contributing to a mass exodus o' evangelical voters were so unreasonable we had a hard time with such an explanation. @Hurlshot is correct. is less 'bout Big Corp embracing a color wheel than it is 'bout the predictable inflammatory response from far too many americans. HA! Good Fun!

*sigh* you are doing this bass ackwards. you have reached a conclusion, and any story which confirms your bias is "evidence." wsj and nypost *snort* share not a peer reviewed study or anything close, but an opinion piece. could new evidence change the situation? sure, but at this point all the reputable scientific feedback has claimed covid-19 does not have any o' the telltale signs o' human interference. why would the opinion piece change hearts and minds? you seizing on every rando story to bolster your unsupported belief does little to alter our skepticism. however, if the goal were to give us yet another opportunity to point out your willingness to embrace bs w/o evidence, then mission accomplished. advice: the smart play is to wait. what compels dp to link every not study which supports his belief? eventual there will be a peer reviewed study and subsequent expert debate regarding methodology and data and whatnot. or there will never be such. in either case, 'til you get something legit... HA! Good Fun!

am not agreeing with the hasty generalization, though perhaps the mistake is not being broad enough with the generalization. today, americans is less in favor of free speech. more european. as we become more polarized here in the US, elements at both ends o' the political spectrum is more willing to accept the curiously euro view that some offensive speech is just too unpleasant to be endured, though the folks advocating for restrictions on speech rare describe in such terms. antifa tell themselves and others they is fighting white supremacists and fascists. the new trumpian right is selling their censorship cloaked in the vernacular o' safety and security-- the right created disproportionate fear o' protests and protesters and now they use such fear to suppress the speech o' fellow americans. none o' this sh!te is new, but the degree to which the notions o' acceptable levels o' censorship has been normalized surprises us. every fifteen years or so there has been a serious push to enact flag burning legislation or an Amendment. and every few years there has been a push from europhile academics suggesting that there should be limits on offensive speech. outliers. the folks demanding a more restrictive reading o' the First Amendment has always been the outliers here in the US. although as with the flag burning amendments, there has been brief moments when it appeared support for such were increasing. nevertheless, Americans in general has always been more in favour o' free speech than they has been willing to indulge in arguments selling fear. democrats is hardly the party o' antifa, no matter what a few obsidian board posters might suggest. nevertheless, the progressives, particularly the younger progressives, appear to be willing to distinguish between the value o' speech of good people v. bad, with themselves as arbiters as to which people is on the side o' the angels. have had to point out, more than once, how bernie, an old skool protester, has been quite vocal in his condemnation o' antifa and violence, but his example is a bit o' an outlier compared to the younger progressives. even so, suggest such folks speak for all democrats is a fail. US republicans has, to a shocking degree, gone all-in on the trump fear campaign. is hardly all republicans, but is too many. fear o' foreigners. fear of muslims. fear of the rainbow flag. fear of minorities. republicans is willing to suppress speech if it helps advance their narrative o' fear. all too often a 2021 red state republican believes in peaceful free speech, and they will fight for the proud boys and their right to demonstrate, but "everybody knows" how dangerous are blm and antifa... dunno 'bout the parties. we will admit americans, as we become increasing polarized, is more willing to prohibit offensive speech. fools and madmen. axiom: the only speech which needs protection is that which tends to offend. nevertheless, as our politics become more polarized and more similar to european examples, the willingness to suppress offensive and dangerous speech becomes much more widespread. is unfortunate. HA! Good Fun!

fox news and the far right's war on wokeness suffered a defeat, and on memorial day no less. Veteran's mic cut during speech as he speaks about Black community's role in history of Memorial Day HA! Good Fun!

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then am especial perplexed 'cause the winters are colder in the valley. the only fog we get in the valley is during the winter months. the summers here are indeed much warmer than the bay area and the kinda "warm" weather months in san francisco which inspired the quote attributed to twain. sacramento has three months o' genuine pleasant weather split 'tween 1.5 months in spring and 1.5 months in the fall, and with the wildfires and the air quality, is getting less livable each year. 'pon reflection, houses built above the snow line in ca frequent have basements, so am suspecting basements is actual beneficial when building somewheres cold or if there is ice or somesuch, but am talking out our kiester guessing. water table sure isn't the reason why is not done in our neck o' the woods, but ca is a big state so is no doubt places where water table could be an issue. even so, other than elevation, ca basements is rare. HA! Good Fun!

am thinking people who have not lived where it is sooper hot don't really understand ac. during the summer in sacramento you turn up your thermostat to 78 and pray your newish and cutting edge cooling system doesn't crap out during the numerous weeklong +100 heatwaves. if you got western exposure, you better have a lotta trees in the front o' the house, 'cause a nice unobstructed view means those windows is trying to turn your house into a solar oven. you can keep the blinds closed and add blackout curtains, which helps a bit, but then the high ceilings and bright interior you paid a whole lotta extra money to acquire is kinda a waste, no? god forbid you own a two-story home. most people work during the day, so your house being unpleasant warm even with the ac running is no big deal 'cept for weekends and later in the eve. old people tend to be cold all the time, so they probable don't care if is hot. get home from work and maybe you got a whole-house fan, and ceiling fans and you do all your cooking outside on the grill or with a microwave 'cause until 10pm is too hot to cook for real in the house. maybe find a way to make livable. alternative. gd likely has a bunker he ain't admitting to owning. no doubt his underground haven is cool in summer and easier to keep warm in winter. pm gd and get advice on how to build a nice climate controlled and windowless bunker in some dog p00p ugly and cheap part o' the country where it won't matter 'cause you is living like a moleman underground and windowless. and few homes in ca have basements. too bad. would be nice to retreat to basement during the hottest summer days. @Keyrock don't concern your self 'bout ca. plenty o' people buy homes in ca. that is part o' the problem. no matter how expensive it gets, more houses is being built in places with not enough water to support all those homes. https://time.com/5368610/san-francisco-poop-patrol-problem/ story starts out with a focus on the need for such in sf and the homelessness issue in the bay area. were referenced on these boards btw. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/san-francisco-deploys-poop-patrol-team-to-eliminate-waste-in-the-streets-2019-08-02 $70k, not including nice benefits, sounds like extreme overpay, but once one realizes how much is housing in the bay area... meh. is only a shocking story for those not living in the bay area. people get paid more in many parts o' CA, but not enough to buy homes where they work. chances are when they eventual do buy a house, they buy too much house compared to what they may afford, 'cause banks are right back to where they were with making risky loans like they were doing in the early and mid 2000s. is a whole cycle o' stoopid and is as if nobody in the real estate biz remembers 2008. HA! Good Fun!

was 107F just a couple days past. home insurance has gone way up for our properties in sacramento county even though am not in a genuine high wildfire risk zone. anywhere with low water has seen an increase in home insurance. grass valley is comfortable, but is a long commute to a sacramento office. am admitting with the oppressive heat and the now seasonal wildfires making the air quality in the valley hazardous for 2-3 months each year, we were eyeballing humboldt county or perhaps maybe even doing the idaho move we has been contemplating for years. would be difficult to recommend sacramento specific, but have mentioned previous how we got multiple folks living near us who commute to the bay area and am twenty minutes east o' sacramento. HA! Good Fun! ps am personal quite happy with increased rents and property values in our immediate area.

kinda an amusing german guy, but we noticed the video 'cause it showed a base defense and the second mission were a relative open map with the narrator running a trebuchet with an lrm 15 as his primary weapon system. admitted you don't get to see pilot ai not causing collateral base damage 'cause german guy kept getting lured away from the defense area. however, is a few instances where you may see ai pilots purposeful avoiding structures. HA! Good Fun!

is there a polish market in charlotte? e stopped gardening at the end o' the previous century, which is when we last had a dependable supply o' horseradish root. in nor cal it takes effort to get decent horseradish root and cherry leaves and whatnot. live in chicago and would be no problem. same for parts o' arizona. HA! Good Fun!

am finding enemies who occupy what would be a8 on a chessboard is almost never targetable in the ordinary sense, but we may nevertheless use archers to hit 'em. however, is one army encounter map with a plagued mastodon and a bunch o' other plagued beast units which is not subject to any interaction. is no background either as screen is black save units and the ui. took a few reloads, and a less than ideal resolution but we finally got past an ember quest bug. we wouldn't mind losing ember save fact we got seelah carrying court poet levels and the bonus she provides intelligence and charisma casters is kinda how we built this party. too many class mechanic bugs to mention. the ranger favoured enemy thing is particular annoying as it affects other similar features such as the bloodrager celestial bloodline, and o'course we went ahead and gave camellia and regill levels in bloodrager (celestial). multiple other companions got ranger levels-- arueshalae having outsider as a favoured enemy is swell if we happen to be attacked by elementals, but otherwise it is useless. whatever. HA! Good Fun!

did we mention we loathe kingdom management? got what appear to be icons informing us we are running outta time for... something(s). doesn't tell us which tasks is time sensitive and are within days (hours) o' expiring. clearing the map o' demon armies as we did in chapter two were clear a mistake as now we got a backlog o' projects, not to mention an event we literal cannot address. bugged? might go back to mechwarrior 5 as our blood pressure is rising. is also one crusade battle which is broken for us. involves a bunch o' plagued animals and a background which is black void with nothing targetable. HA! Good Fun!

oven. smoking is good, but out favorite ribs is actual coming outta the oven, 'cause we can braise 'em. we want the meat fall off the bone tender and the connective tissue fully gelatinized. cook the ribs 250 degrees in their own juices. pre-treat your ribs with a dry rub and let 'em sit in the fridge overnight. next day, tight wrap ribs in foil and a bit o' liquid to create a braising effect. your braising fluid is essential and you need a fair amount o' heavy-duty foil for the braising envelope for your ribs. may try and finish the braised ribs on the grill, but they is gonna be fall-off-the-bone tender, so chances are broil is easier to manage. so start to finish, am ordinarily using the oven. shady mentions pressure cooker and you may achieve same effect we mentioned in an instapot/pressure cooker much quicker and w/o the hassle o' getting the perfect foil envelope. regardless, to our way o' thinking, braise is an ideal method for cooking tough meat with much connective tissue. braise requires wet heat. HA! Good Fun!

sure. just as soon as you give up the following: your agreement handgun prohibitions make sense while simultaneous claim any firearm prohibition is a bridge too far creates an impasse. and again, there weren't a firearms ideology until recent. history tells us americans took a common sense approach to firearms. people noticed that gun violence happened more often in towns and so those americans passed laws restricting gun possession in towns. gd has it bass ackwards. were the gun rights folks who developed a kinda faith around gun ownership which made reasonable debate improbable... and they got to no compromise pre dig dug. no compromise, as the label suggests, is making difficult to find some kinda workable solution with the goal o' less people getting shot for stoopid reasons. HA! Good Fun!

wouldn't say stuff is spawning immediate adjacent to us. am getting a good amount o' use from long range weapons. however, with all the tanks, aircraft and light mechs attacking in waves, is gonna be difficult to stay at range. earlyish missions has us able to dispatch a few mechs before we need get close, but eventual a jenner(s), centurion or pheonix hawk is gonna be sharing closet space with us and am rare built for such. enemy ai is kinda aggro focused, so you may need actual do counter-intuitive and switch targets a bit during a few missions. maps haven't changed much. you are never fighting on the plains o' nebraska or kansas. is functional corridors, if quite robust in areas. HA! Good Fun!

gd suggests talking 'bout bans is a problem. okie dokie. the no compromise folks ignore history and indulge in a level o' hypocrisy regarding firearms they is unwilling to admit or surrender. am not gonna do the full history lesson again. there is a belief from the no compromise folks that the Constitution has been an absolute bar on government enforcement o' gun limits and prohibitions back to 1787 and perhaps even the bible. (not kidding on this. is a common refrain from the no compromise folks to quote bible verse in support o' the second amendment.) is fiction. much o' US history saw gun prohibitions as commonplace and many o' those prohibitions would be considered draconian by any gadsden flag waving honk o' 2021. any sorta limit on state and local gun prohibitions weren't a thing until post ww1 and very well may be direct linked to the nativism o' that time. regardless, history is not on the side o' the no compromise folks. the fiction o' the steady and unholy assault on gun rights by libs which has only been prevented by patriots and true americans is myth and fantasy. period. but again, have repeated the history a dozen or more times and some folks continue to ignore or reimagine. furthermore, the no compromise folks is almost never the absolute libertarians they claim to be. these folks want the government protection from their neighbors who is engaging in dangerous activities. doug is storing toxic chemicals on land adjacent to bob. how long before bob is demanding the government step in and end such nefarious activity? safe stored toxic chemicals is no danger to bob. is only unreasonable people who is not safe with their potential lethal chemicals who is a danger to bob, yes? is unfair to punish every person 'cause o' the irresponsibility o' a few folks, yes? no. is a whole list o' behaviors doug could engage which bob would protest. bob wanting to be free from the dangers o' doug is how we get laws; enforced courtesy and all that. democracy at work. if there is enough people who agree with bob, then we get a new law. nevertheless, for some inexplicable reason, the no compromise bobs feel different 'bout firearms. you can't make any law 'bout firearms 'cause then there will be another and another and another. bob isn't worried that laws against toxic waste dumping will lead to the eventual prohibitions 'gainst his ownership o' household bleach, but firearms is different, 'cause the libs or history or the bible or... pretend as if there is no solution ignores the obvious: take handguns out of the equation. is a common sense approach and like it or not the militia stuff in the Constitution were a revision added to an earlier draft which woulda' been a more expansive bar on government limits. this observation may upset a few o' the liberals, but the weapons most clear protected by the second amendment is stuff such as the ar-15 and hunting rifles, 'cause those is exact the kinda weapons one would expect members o' a militia to own and maintain. yeah, every time there is a mass shooting people howl and wail 'bout "assault rifles." *snort* the thing is, and we has posted these statistics as well so many times am no longer having the patience to do so, rifles and shot guns (even with the mass shooting events) represent a small fraction o' deaths caused by firearms each year. rifles and shotguns account for fewer american deaths per year than blunt force weapons such as baseball bats and human weapons like fists and feet. the no compromise folks have little defense 'gainst history, hypocrisy and handguns. HA! Good Fun!

yes. am gonna admit Gromnir is far more likely to destroy structures in the defense o' a base than members o' the lance. we will knock down a wall section if it means we won't need to go all the way around to an opening just so long as we got a big cushion on the % needed undamaged to achieve mission goals. however, it has happened that we hear the refrain, damage is coming out of your pay, which at times is only possible the lance mates is responsible as we is nowhere near structures. ai is not perfect but is far better than it were in the past. lance mates is also good (not great) at avoiding artillery strikes, which makes those beachhead missions doable if still a bit unnerving. HA! Good Fun!

mechwarrior 5. mechwarrior 2 were the first pc game we played obsessive, and we still got a soft spot for the battletech inspired games. put in more than a few long gaming sessions with the tabletop version in the late eighties. we saw the steam release and the new dlc, so we gave mechwarrior 5 a chance and am enjoying it. salvage feels like a bit o' a trap negotiation... appeals to gambler instincts. you max salvage and get 22 shares, but after the battle the decent mech available, which you purposeful killed with a headshot, is costing 23. nevertheless, we almost always max salvage. am spending considerable time with our mech loadouts and experimenting with weapon systems like rifles and chem lasers. so far is not feeling repetitive, but am also consistent punching above our weight class. haven't had any noteworthy bugs. HA! Good Fun!

we don't even do a particular good job pruning hedges, and that ain't requiring us to work bass ackwards with a mirror. am aware o' our limitations, thank you very much. had a professional cut our hair on the 25th, which were fifteen days following our second vaccine shot. were arguable the best money we has spent this year. HA! Good Fun!

in remembrance of all those men and women who have fallen in defense o' their nation and o' the Constitution. also, am henceforth official disliking the french 3% less.

of the tens of people in the US who heard 'bout such and cared, am suspecting half rolled their eyes at the news o' far-right l00ns objecting to lockdown efforts during a pandemic. am not certain what were the official government response under pompeo and trump. we didn't care enough. HA! Good Fun!