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to characterize public policy efforts as analogous to terrorist demands or a hostage situation is what should be obvious wrong with the no compromise position o' so many 2nd amendment purists... who as we indicated earlier is comical misguided 'bout what is 2nd amendment purity. can't give an inch today, 'cause tomorrow they will demand more. y'know, every time the uppity naacp asked for more accountability and more access, the establishment responded similar. if we desegregate schools, the next thing you know, people o' color will be demanding equal access to public swimming pools and consumer credit. and then they will be making laws which force private business owners to hire a minimum % of minority employees. and then they will take businesses from white owners to make certain there are enough business owners with the right skin color. imagine a parade of horrible is so 1840s and 1920s, 1950s, 1970s, etc... am also gonna observe how reality intrudes on gd notions and undermines him when and where he least expects, or remembers. las vegas shooter? recall gd reaction to video... more specific to the audio from the video? gd opined how obvious the shooter were using auto weapons, so the weapons used in the mass killing event were already prohibited by law. reasonable. reasonable and wrong. bump stocks, which am admitting to having only being tangential aware, made gd wrong 'bout gun laws and the vegas shooter. firearms is increasing moldable and tech changes the rules o' the game faster than new laws may be properly debated in Congress or state legislatures. expect any compromise or reasonable law in 2021 ends the debate forever is a tad myopic, no? but you are correct in one sense. no matter what gun laws is passed, as soon as the inevitable next mass shooting event happens, there will be a cry for more regulation no matter how much regulation current exists. so what? deal with it. am agreeing people will react and even overreact. no argument. now what? HA! Good Fun!

am not predicting jury results w/o having seen jury behavior. been in such situations too many times to realize predict from outside courtroom is inherent flawed. jurors is people, and we all should know the people is the element o' chaos indivisible from so many human activities. that said, am gonna take a quick opportunity to observe how there is no legit reason to wait for the verdict to protest. IF you believe system is rigged or flawed, is flawed regardless o' verdict. anybody saw any evidence this trial were handled poorly by da, judge or other governmental actors to ensure a defendant win? this were an extreme transparent trial, and we ain't heard any complaints o' government sabotage. IF you are bothered by laws which make chauvin less likely to be convicted, such has nothing to do with the trial in general or the verdict specific. IF you are angered by law enforcement treatment o' people o' color, the jury verdict in this case does noes not make law enforcement more or less culpable. IF you simple believe jury trials is bs, then verdict is inconsequential. people are on the edge o' their seats waiting for a verdict to express outrage, but the verdict shouldn't make a difference for any source o' outrage we can identify... other than outrage at specific jurors which is an unavoidable if you got jury trials. am bothered by so many waiting for this verdict as some kinda litmus test or bellwether. is not. just ain't. HA! Good Fun! ps somehow got culpable autocorrected to capable. fixed.

answer: prohibit Americans from owning so many handguns. is the obvious solution. accidents, intentional homicides, and suicide attempts resulting in death by firearms overwhelming happen 'cause o' the accessibility o' handguns. firearms are lethal and they are designed to be lethal. act surprised we got so many die in firearm incidents is national level obtuse. the only meaningful solutions are the ones which serious limit the access americans have to the firearms they use to kill each other. however, handgun ownership is Constitutional protected, which is kinda weird 'cause the most recent 2nd amendment cases, written by textualists, took a decidedly originalist approach focusing on history o' gun laws and intent o' the founders n' such. arming a militia circa 1787 as the basis for the kind o' weapons being protected by second amendment is gonna result in the ar-15 kinda weapons getting protection as 'posed to handguns, no? no. also, as weird as it may be, there were no comprehensive history o' gun laws previous to heller, so scalia and others were kinda talking out their arse and turns out they made a few objective wrong assumptions. moot. 2nd amendment current protects handgun ownership. all liberties have a body count. nobody wants to face that truism. protect freedom o' religion means those folks who believe invasive medical practices taint one's soul is protected from government interference even if it means children will be denied basic life saving procedures. taken to an extreme no previous Court would recognize, freedom o' religion means even if we know groups o' people singing in close quarters indoors for an hour or more great increases the risk o' covid-19 transmission, Court says such religious gatherings need be protected, tacit accepting the resulting body count. freedom against unreasonable searches and seizures or self incrimination means guilty people will go free and be free to prey 'pon and even murder american citizens in the future. etc. second amendment has a body count which is more easily observed than most liberties, but is no different. as Americans we have accepted the body count as necessary, or at least unavoidable-- a cost in blood to protect a priceless freedom. right to bear arms allows an individual to protect themselves not only from bandits, british invaders and indians, but from the US government if it ever decides to go too far, with "too far" being an admitted subjective measure. am not mocking as is indeed a legit concern and as vulgar and crude as it may appear, am personal recognizing some kinda body count is indeed warranted to guarantee americans is able to protect themselves from bad guys, especial if those bad guys is claiming to be agents o' the government. 'course the history o' 2nd amendment protections is NOT as described by most o' the 2nd amendment honks here and elsewhere. literal were not until after ww1 that the fed took any meaningful position on gun regulation by the individual states. is this weird narrative that the government is itching to take your guns and your God-given second amendment rights which has existed since the founding. utter poppy****. you have more second amendment protection today than during any meaningful span o' US history... evar. government, and Courts, inexplicable keep finding ways to expand you gun rights, in spite o' the nonsense nightmares concocted by the alt-right which suggest that w/o constant vigilance, washington would beat down your door and take away your guns the moment they thought they could get away with doing so. regardless, solution would seem to be bans on handguns, and am honest not giving a freaking darn 'bout recreational use exceptions. deaths attributed to ownership o' shotguns and rifles, while frequent the most lurid when presented in the media stories, is resulting in negligible body counts when looking at the totals o' tens o' thousands. even the guy in las vegas were representing a near insignificant addition to the yearly total o' firearms deaths. try and ban only bad people from owing guns as a solution to the problem is doomed. such limits is a way to make people feel like they did something useful or have some kinda agency. obvious accidents happen all the time and background checks don't prevent the child from killing himself in a walmart when he gets ahold o' the s'posed secured weapon in mom's handbag. worse, most gun deaths which is intentional is resulting from impulsive action. is not just the clinical insane and/or felons who act stoopid for a quarter hour. you are most likely to be shot and killed by somebody you know as 'posed to a rando stranger trying to take your stuff. nevertheless, gotta start with being self honest. accept the reality o' some kinda body count. recognize how the protection o' the particular liberty in question is gonna result in dead americans. one reason our cops act as if every american is armed is hostile is 'cause statistically there is more than one gun per american. hundreds o' deaths in school shooting over the past decades is a tragedy. tens o' thousands o' firearms suicides yearly is a statistic. etc. so own it. as a society we can't act shocked every time ameircans die in a firearm tragedy. the deaths are anything but unpredictable. is not difficult to come up with ways to prevent firearms deaths. problem is there is no way to get americans to accept the genuine effective solutions, which is fine just so long as people would be honest 'bout the costs and their willingness to accept the predictable body count. you won't get any significant percentage o' democrats to agree to a serious ban on handgun ownership. instead folks will argue over relative minor restrictions such as background checks and waiting periods. firearms are lethal and they are designed to be lethal. act surprised we got so many die in firearm incidents is national level obtuse. 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more relevant is recognition the situation is not as binary as dp describes, or at least not binary how he suggests. in point o' fact, while both the shooting o' the capitol rioter and the clearing o' the person who shot her were covered extensive by mainstream media (not swept under the rug by law enforcement or media) am still shocked so few o' the capitol rioters were repelled with serious force. is the f'ing Capitol for chrissakes, and you got protesters erecting mock gallows and calling for the deaths o' pence and other Congressmen as they storm the Capitol while the 2020 Presidential election results is being confirmed. protesters get disturbing close to members o' Congress after having broken through windows, doors and barricades. one protester is shot? just one? wth? as has been noted elsewhere in this thread, law enforcement in this country has broad leeway to use force to protect self and others, but to protect Congressmen at the US Capitol from an angry mob, law enforcement showed curious restraint. dp seems to have "swept under a rug" misattributed, 'cause am genuine still wanting to know how protesters got so far with so little law enforcement resistance. contrary to bruce notions, history shows that shoot people in a mob is as likely to increase violence as to curb it. that said, when law enforcement is severe outnumbered, and until law enforcement achieves overwhelming tactical advantage, am seeing a plausible explanation for the milquetoast response we witnessed. nevertheless, am kinda wanting an explanation as to how a bunch ' flannel bedecked hooligans managed to storm the Capitol with so little law enforcement resistance. more important, am wondering what is the response for future, 'cause no doubt domestic militia groups and foreign powers were surprised by how little force were used to stop the protests. if there were to be some kinda next time at Capitol or elsewhere, am hopeful the response is better. swept under a rug is exact what gop in Congress is doing as republicans still refuse to agree to support for independent investigations o' the January 6 incident. wanna know truth and details o' January 6? good luck. have had this conversation with @Guard Dog once or twice how the history o' the most famous battles of the civil war is not quite the uncontroverted facts we all accept. read firsthand sources o' civil war battles is an utter mess, 'cause battles, less than riots, is chaotic. historians has come to a consensus regarding what happened during famous civil war battles based on physical evidence and first had accounts, but is not the objective real we all pretend. making sense o' battles is as much art as science and expecting all facts to be correct regarding what is obviously an event peopled heavily by fact-challenged narrators and their iphones will make investigations more difficult. all the more reason to investigate now, as soon as possible. dp is predictable selective with his choice o' intraweb sources and experts to reinforce his chosen pov and narrative, which is so 21st century banal, but disappointing nevertheless. want truth? do as Gromnir has advised many times (and received curiously forceful resistance more than once) and wait for facts pending thorough and transparent investigations. unfortunately, one party appears disturbing dedicated to sweeping the events o' january 6 under the rug, right up until a detail seems to support a chosen narrative. shame. HA! Good Fun! ps investigate events leading up to the moment when a mob headed to the Capitol on January 6 should be much easier to manage than make sense o' the events at the Capitol itself. we know who said what and when they said and what they did and who they paid... and the who, what, where and why we don't know can be discovered with a bit o' effort. far less chaos. nevertheless, Congress is instead cultivating mushrooms. unforgivable. somebodies is sweeping under a rug.

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given a few o' the problematic stereotypes o' the shang-chi comics character, not least o' which is inexorable linked to fu manchu, am suspecting significant changes from the source material. am admitted knowing shag-chi only a little, but am curious how this is gonna developed so as to not cheese off the increasing important chinese audience w/o appearing to be overt pandering to the same audience. HA! Good Fun!

quick clarification, 'cause am knowing we weren't clear: our observations about the number of unarmed people of color killed by cops is not a suggestion such deaths is inconsequential. after all, IF law enforcement agencies made just enough changes to reduce the deaths from twenties to single digits, no doubt many would applaud such effort, but am gonna suggest such would be misleading. the problem is the casual brutality o' law enforcement in the US. we noted when the george floyd incident first happened, many police would see chauvin's actions as inappropriate, but the only thing they would see as wrong were the duration o' the force used. so go ahead and listen to the testimony by cops at the chauvin trial. have chauvin's superior testify were indeed novel and almost unheard o' in a cop trial, but the cop testimony at trial reinforced the idea that chauvin were a bad actor who abused otherwise ok cop practices and took 'em too far. there were no condemnation o' law enforcement willingness to use casual brutality to gain control in a situation. the problem were the nine minutes. if chauvin is found guilty it will be because o' the nine minutes, and every other cop will have only learned that after three minutes they might need be a bit more careful when twisting up a person in custody. is many millions o' arrests every year in the US. there is 500k arrests in the US every year for violent crimes. there is gonna be deaths particularly as, at the very least, the cops in such situation is gonna be armed with lethal weapons. focus on the deaths, which already does not occur in great numbers, is a mistake. focus on the deaths is human and understandable for anybody with a shred o' empathy. am nevertheless worried the deaths take focus from the bigger and more fundamental problem. HA! Good Fun!

Little Difference In Vaccine Hesitancy Among White And Black Americans, Poll Finds Overall, 67% of people said they had either planned to get a coronavirus vaccine, or had done so already. Thirty percent said they did not plan to get a shot. While there was little racial difference in who wants the vaccine, there were sharp partisan differences, according to the poll. am admitted surprised a bit by a few o' the numbers. reducing the historic reluctance o' minorities has been a kinda success. pleasant surprise. unfortunate, men, the gender more likely to suffer severe symptoms from a covid-19 infection than women, is less likely to get vaccinated. women, who disproportionate populate teaching and healthcare professions even in 2021, has been vaccinated earlier than men. 67% is much better than the ~50% numbers we saw late last year regarding persons willing to be vaccinated in the US. has been a significant decrease in vaccine hesitancy in a short time, particular in communities o' color and whatever education and outreach efforts resulted in such a significant change is deserving recognition. need find out what worked and repeat if possible. am impressed by the diminished levels o' hesitancy. even so, thank goodness the vaccines is so efficacious. is worth remembering the yearly flu vaccine is 'tween 40 and 60% effective. is nevertheless gonna be difficult to reach a few o' the targets deemed necessary for herd immunity with current levels o' hesitancy, particular as social distancing behaviors in the US, which were never adhered to well, is breaking down at an increasing rate. HA! Good Fun!

you realize that admission doesn't help you, yes? we treat you little different than a handful o' other posters who are habitual dishonest and/or comical obdurate. you are not a special snowflake from our pov. nothing noteworthy save to observe the company you share is hardly illustrious. converse, admit to singling us out? well, ok. thanks? is a smidge creepy, but am s'posing such is a hazard o' the internet. that said, am thinking will hold off on the fee as am all too often compelled to correct zor errors to ever consider financing his self-serving sloth. well, you and nunia business university guy provided some entertainment, which am guessing is "the point" we were looking for in pour previous post, but if you refuse to add anything constructive, then we end up with these little sucking toilet bowl swirlies o' the inane which become progressive more infantile and exponential increase the likelihood o' mod interference. even Gromnir has limited patience for such. HA! Good Fun! ps edited out a repeat word.

y'know, that kinda blatant hypocrisy does not count as edgy ironic even on the intraweb. you fibbing 'bout past Gromnir statements is one o' your tells btw, so until you find a non-tweet source other than the one which has multiple claims o' being misleading and false right in the twitter link you provided, contrary to your earlier statement, am wondering what is the point o' this save the ego stroke opportunity. HA! Good Fun!

odd. from our pov, is zor living down to his typical low effort standard which caused us to chuckle. as such we will wait for another source. more laugh opportunities. 'course is kinda no win for zor at this point after linking a rando tweet which did indeed include claims the grad student were playing funny with the data, which zor woulda' noticed if he bothered to actual read perhaps beyond the act o' linking. HA! Good Fun!

firearms result in the deaths o' tens o' thousands o' americans per year. the thing is, the mass shootings and death-by-cop incidents get all the media attention. the number of unarmed individuals of color who are killed by cops per year, on average, is in the 20s. number o' death by cop incidents total per year has remained disturbing constant since at least 2015. mass shootings average ~350ish per year, with the use o' long guns accounting for only a small fraction o' those hundreds. etc. we got a firearms problem in this country. we also have a police violence problem. unfortunate, from our pov, we do a terrible job o' educating selves 'bout the problems beyond the lurid details and the headline grabbing details. HA! Good Fun! ps 'bout 60% of total firearms deaths in the us per year is suicides. am knowing many do not believe such a number is relevant, 'cause is a matter of choice, but suicide is most easily thwarted by making access to the means o' suicide a smidge more difficult. coal gas ovens. honest do a quick search for coal gas ovens and suicide rates in the US and UK. suicide, as difficult as it is to accept, is an impulsive act. reduce access to means o' killing self even a little and you save many people from suicide, from a choice they would not make if they took even a little bit more time to reflect. edit: adding an npr link which is tending towards brevity over depth. a quick read for anybody interested in our suicide observations.

you mean other than multiple responses calling him a fraud and claiming the questions were not framed as he depicts? observing how he ain't showing his work anywheres? hardly a surprise this guy didn't question mr. goldberg a bit more. this guy claims to be a professor at "nunia business university," which we assume is some kinda inside joke. that said, there is indeed a couple individuals in the thread who do not immediate fail the crackpot test. not sure where that gets you. pew data is hardly state secret level stuff and is frequent referenced in scholarly sources and reputable print journalism. yeah, if zor or Gromnir wants to see atp wave 64 questions and results, we need pay for the privilege o' doing so, but is curious that this bit o' data from over a year ago has not been cited anywhere else other than meme such as were the source o' skarp_one's image. if this were 2020, then your linked tweet would be curious and worth looking into a bit more. is 2021 and not even the usual alt-right suspects have picked up on this and repeated with hardly disguised glee? a year? 30s. spend a few more seconds and try to find a source you would likely demand o' any poster on this board. lord knows we didn't bother to look for social media sources, and would not in the future. HA! Good Fun!

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Colorado police accused of injuring elderly woman with dementia during arrest even if you are an old lady, if you do not immediate comply, you are presumptive guilty o' contempt of cop and may suffer consequences real and dire. most cops has been trained by other cops, who were trained by other cops and so on and so forth. is codified nowhere, so ain't the stuff o' training manuals or doctrine, but failure of the attitude test is a near guarantee o' a more hands on approach by the cops, if there is any real or imagined justification for cops to do so. need change cop training, culture and education, but am suspecting smarter people than Gromnir has been making more constructive criticisms for more than just a couple decades with few actual changes save in anecdotal relevant small batches. more than once we has pasted links to those wiki sites showing how many independent law enforcement agencies exist in each state, and the fed literal cannot make changes to those law enforcement entities save in minor ways. positive changes, if they is gonna happen, need to happen state and local.... particular local. kinda a side observation, but many cops begin their genuine training with the public by working for X months at a jail. am not certain why this is done. if we had to guess, there is a few benefits o' jail training. after all, jails are necessarily controlled environments which is far better for training than is more chaotic real world situations, and dealing daily with pre-disposition persons, many o' whom is gonna view cops as adversaries, helps weed out those police/sheriff recruits who is not willing or able to handle the challenges presented by unruly americans who in rl is gonna have access to lethal weapons. we got no evidence whatsoever to support any conclusions, but am wondering if early jail training for cops and sheriffs has a serious lasting impact on how law enforcement deal with the public. complete unrelated: worth a watch, but keep in mind franken glosses over democrat hypocrisy during the mccain v obama presidential run when mccain voluntarily adhered to mccain-feingold limits and disclosure requirements, which the Court had already invalidated, thinking moderate democrats would applaud mccain's. foolish. mccain were overwhelmed by democrat spending. nobody in washington has a monopoly on hypocrisy. HA! Good Fun!

thought she were vast underutilized in bsg, which were a shame 'cause she did a good job. am knowing three episodes is quite a bit, particularly by 2021 standards with 8 episode seasons being more and more common for streaming offerings, but there were much potential from the admiral cain character if it had been developed less rushed which we cannot help but believe woulda' made the show better... at a time when the series were still good. bring up bsg cain 'cause more than once it seemed like trek wanted to do more with ro, but never quite knew where she might fit. she were original supposed to be sisko's first officer for ds9, yes? gonna admit kira (more specific, actress nana visitor) were not our favorite ds9 character, so... much different role for forbes in the killing. made us feel bad she were clear no longer being considered for genuine lead roles in spite o' fact she were more than capable. HA! Good Fun!

speaking of lack o' understanding, since january 1, 2019, it is not the law that all americans must have medical insurance. a few states still require such, but is not a fed requirement. HA! Good Fun!

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am thinking folks is getting suckered in by skarpy_one and a meme he found somewhere on the arse end o' the internet. atp wave 64 were a covid specific survey conducted by pew between march 19 and march 24, 2020. asked respondents views on school closures and international travel and the like. a quick looksee didn't reveal anything similar to the s'posed chart data from pew or from groups such as the nih which commented 'pon pew wave 64. the chart skapry offers clear ain't from pew, so one wonders what were actual data and the relevant questions regarding mental health, which again would be almost necessarily covid specific. am thinking until something a bit more concrete is offered, ordinary and prudent skepticism, particular o' anything provided by skarp_one, should make the question as to the chart data validity a non-starter. HA! Good Fun!

ps am moderate embarrassed we didn't mention the aztecs. pretty sure we linked on these boards in 2014 or 2015, explaining our shame for not mentioning this time. is short and includes peter weller, so perhaps deal with a commercial if need be. https://www.history.com/videos/aztec-ingenuity#aztec-ingenuity stuck with terrible soil for farming? well, ok then. make land for farming. 'course you need a really big and shallow lake to pull this off-- is nevertheless awe inspiring impressive but also unique. producing enough food to support a thriving population has been the largest obstacle to human advancement since... forever. rare and recent has such obstacles been overcome with any regularity beyond the handful o' famous rivers mentioned previous. HA! Good Fun!

am not liking the designation o' africa as backwards. not your observation. in the US, we take advantage o' being a capital producer, selling those "backwards" nations tractors and fertilizers and other stuff the "third world" nations cannot current make for themselves. unfortunately, w/o serious help, even the oil producers in the middle east never reach a point where they may transition from commodity to capital. mali might be a terrible example for 2021 'cause most o' africa is indeed stuck with commodity-based economies similar to those o' the 1300s and there is no seeming way to bootstrap themselves into capital production. china hasn't even been complete successful at such a transition and they invested decades in their transformative efforts, used brutal authoritarian means to do so and is now faced with a serious population crisis with no obvious or ez solutions. is worth remembering, per capita gdp o' china is less than 1/6 that o' the US. but am thinking all too often the most obvious explanations is overlooked. for a considerable time, egypt fed the roman empire. by late in augustus' rule, egypt was supplying 1/3 o' the grain feeding the roman empire. the nile river delta were different and near unique back in those days. were a fertile river which flooded regularly. am thinking most people do not realize how recent is innovations to farming which makes it possible to achieve anything other than bare subsistence in most places on the planet. nile were unique in africa. other than harnessing electricity as a power source, am thinking the evolution o' the plow, and subsequent mechanization o' agriculture, is arguable the most transformative advances in human science and engineering. 5000 years ago is likely when plow appears in mesopotamia. 3000 years ago in egypt and china. perhaps somewhere 'round 1000 bc, metal were added to the plow to make it more durable if not more effective... not a metal plow per se, but kinda a metal cap on the pointy stick which were the plow for a long time. in places with regular flooding and silting, a pointy stick plow were sufficient, which is why the great river deltas such as yalu and yellow in china, tigris and euphrates in modern iraq and the nile in egypt is where the largest populations o' people were located. farm elsewhere were exponential more difficult and plows were not up to the task. it weren't until the 1600s that the dutch invented a metal shaped different than the pointy stick plows used for millennia. until technology advanced, there were extreme few places on the planet which could support a genuine empire sized population. am gonna note the incan empire is an exception to aforementioned generalizations as their agricultural innovations is genuine kinda mind-blowing by standards o' even today and they did w/o stuff like horse collars and metal plow coulters. not even the wheel. genuine fascinating stuff if you are fascinated by that kinda thing. cradle o' life bit is from when humans were hunters and gatherers and everything changed for humanity 'round 3000 bc. not many hunter gatherers remain, eh? the thing is, "everything changed" has happened numerous times in the past handful o' centuries, and if you ain't at the forefront when change happens, you get left further behind. HA! Good Fun!

well then, based on your comparisons, there is nothing to fear from the chinese. the older and more basic lifeform indeed stands no chance 'gainst the hairless ape who has been on the scene for a relative brief period o' time. anybody here speak ancient sumerian? no? well, that is weird. am suspecting the ancient egyptians believed the age o' their civilization gave 'em invincibility. but perhaps hoon is correct. age o' a culture is vital, which is why westerners should start fostering their kids with aboriginal australian peoples if they wanna insulate the next generation from a possible chinese threat, 'cause the australians significant predate the chinese. naked appeals to tradition/antiquity is so 19th century. HA! Good Fun!

first masks. next thing you know, they are taking your guns. worst part is, 1/3rd o' fox viewers (and possible a few obsidian boardies) is gonna see the chucklehead as a hero for standing up for his rights. HA! Good Fun!

our lactose intolerance is o' the don't be a jackarse variety. am much aware that if we have a bacon, egg, spinach and cheese frittata for breakfast, cheese enchiladas for lunch and then baked mac n' cheese for dinner, there is a good chance we will pay for our overindulgence. am knowing there is people who can drive past dairy cows at 55mph and have their intestines torque, but such is not the case for us. all we need do is be reasonable with cheese and sour cream and am able to avoid being punished. nevertheless, we frequent have lactose intolerance issues, proving once again that Gromnir is a jackarse. which is kinda same situation we have with most foods. am finding that as much as we love red meat, we can't eat too much. broccoli and brussel sprouts? Gromnir won't be the only one suffering if we eat too much o' the sprouts. beans. bread. rice. apples. artichokes... dear lord, am still recalling our artichoke heart dip nightmare o' 1995. whatever. is a threshold for most foods beyond which we become "intolerant." ... chicken is an exception. we seem to be able to eat chicken multiple times a day for weeks on end w/o ever having a reaction other than comic ennui. too bad. particular as am not a huge fan o' chicken breasts, we kinda wish we had a better excuse to avoid boneless and skinless chicken breasts. HA! Good Fun!

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