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Never said you did. :D I just said I enjoy the freedom to believe what you want in peace, even if you do think that. Sort of like you made it sound like a was a zealot without actually saying it. Touche' As for what you said about Thetans, yes, you pretty much have a good understanding of what they believe, and yes it is complex. But it does sound alot like Medichlorians... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So are these Thetans viruses or people?

Well how do you explain the creation of The Chosen One then? since he was born without a father .. if the force is not a sentient being then this would be a random thing, and if that was the case, how come there was a prophecy foretelling this? 1. Well you covered your bases here .. But as you say, it can still be sentient, we may simply not know the whole thruth .. 2 + 3. does this impliy that The Force is subject to the universal laws of physics? imo The Force needs to be somewhat sentient .. as Jedis are 'allowed' to see future events through it, which, in my mind, implies it's omniscient in some way.. Maybe The Force is some kind og united conscience (if you can say that in English?), the total of all the minds of all life combined.. thus acting like a "super subconscience" .. hmm I'll need to think a little more about that.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, if an infinite number of monkeys sit at an infinite number of typewriters (there's a few spare in the latter infinity, for contingency planning, plus a few extra typing ribbons, sndwiches and coke) for an infinite time period, they will get very tired. Also, they will produce the entire works of Shakespeare, in the original Klingon. Prophecies are easy to make, and loads of people spend more time interpreting them than philosophers spend philosophising (which is a lot). What was the prophecy? "A chosen one will come from The Force and provide balance to the sheet, whereas there were only credits before, now there will be debits such that LucasArts will again be bounteous." ... No, that's not it ... " Let's consider some alternatives. Perhaps the nature of The Force embodies some other-dimensional qualities, such that exposure to it, especially around significant events (that warp the fabric of The Force in our dimensions, much like super-heavy object -- like black holes -- warp the fabric of Space-Time like a bowling ball on a trampoline causing smaller masses like golf balls to be attracted); where the warping effect will cause the Force Sensitive to "see around the corner" of our Space-Time continuum into the/a future world ... How's that? :cool: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. " Arthur C. Clarke, "Profiles of The Future", 1961 (Clarke's third law) English physicist & science fiction author (1917 - ) I would add the sufficiently advanced understanding of the universe would sound like magic, too. To explain The Force in terms of laws of physics, which is eminently possible, we would need to expand physics to encompass the new ideas and laws. (A bit like the Ancient Greeks -- oh look: metaphysics, they beat us to it! -- okay, we'll call ours supraphysics, then.) No need for the extra burden of your "collective-unconscious" (

:"> Yep, just retrieved it, "Splinter Cell double pack includessplintercell&missionpack" "

A small excerpt (a couple of pages), if not used for profit, can normally be used free of charge without notification -- for educational purposes. ... So I know you'll join with me and give thanks to our guest lecturer, Dowie100, who has been presenting our current "Politics in the Software Publishing Industry" lecture series for StarWars101.

I bought that ages ago (bargain bin) when I bought some other game (waiting for KotOR2). Haven't installed it yet ... just sitting in the draw, drowning in games' cases ... might have to pull it out for a play.

Revan, lost for a decade, finally comes to the end of the yellow brick road ... The Grand Poo-Ba Wizard Ozzi Ozbourne bites the head of a Jawa and Revan clicks her ruby lightsabers together ... ... And the Stay-Puft Sith Lord, caught in the crossed streams (which is ordinarily a bad idea), loses its tenuos grip on credibility and is sent through the dimension door, back to the anti-universe of clich

"If you go to Zha'Ha'Dum, you will die." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ... Is that near Amerillo?

It's the Plaid Jedis!

Nobody expects the Tremayne Inquisition! Oh, did I say that out loud? :"> :D What's a Fallnassi Mage?

So you have been playing KotOR2, then? :D Almost as bad as that disco in Deus Ex:IW with four people in a room big enough to build the Pyramid of Giza in.

Mmm? Did you say something? I'm sticking with my definition, dunno about yours ... you've gone all sky-pilot on me and added some metaphysical touchy-feely sentience to it. I like hard science! Just the facts.

Gender-respectful Monarch of all she ... err (Royal Plural) one surveys. Looks like the "cut content" spy article was subjected to a rush job, too -- didn't have time to even check the boards. I wonder if the berk who reviewed it last issue is taking this into account after he graded it 89%. Nice to see he played it through to the end.

I subscribed to the traditional philosophy espoused in the OT. That's why I was taken aback by The Kreia Revelation, and decided to bring it up for conversation. The only reason I am persisting with it is that it struck me as a neat plot to have The Force as cast as "The Empire" and the rebellion manifested as the true underdogs, those that had to fight with "bows and arrows against the lightning" (Orson Welles was a dude). As I mentioned just above, Occham's Razor suggests that, based on logic, The Force is some sort of small "f" force, without sentience. (No need for it, so its out, too. Of course this is just building a fit hypothetical model to fit the known evidence, minus the unnecessary stuff: there is no reason to say that The Force isn't actually sentient and scheming to turn the Jedi Council into a pile of poodoo -- that would be a faith based judgement.) So it acts like a big gravity well on every particle in the universe (according to some intrinsic component -- like those damnable midichlorians -- and the "distance for a set point* in the alignment of The Force"*). Every time you take it pulls, every time you pull it takes (relative to said point of reference). This leaves plently of room for Eastern philosphies to assist in the explanation and attainment of true enlightenment of The Force, too. How's that for a definition? :cool: *Interestingly, this point may be true neutral or some other point, perhaps affected by the initial creation of the universe. **I'm using "alignment" in its broadest sense and because there just isn't another word I can use to convey the concept: I'm not specifically talking about the one- or two-dimentional moral compass-type alignment from AD&D.

That's anthropomorphizing Nature. ;-) Nature just is. It doesn't seek anything since it is a thing. Also, the idea of balance had to come from city-living academics/philosophers. If you grew up on a farm or in a rural area you'd know there Nature was in a constant state of struggle and conflict. Balance, like, apathy, is death. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ahh, another Eastern concept: creative tension! *Lights a bulb in the deep recesses of my brain * ... From when I studied Confucianism ... the creative tension between Jen and Li ... hmmm, just checked some research, looks like that's a dead end. (*Mumbles* Stupid brain *Mumbles*) Still, you have a good point: Peace is death -- the big sleep: when Entropy finally wins and all energy is in the lowest form. Chaos theory tells us that everything is in motion, and Heisenberg's uncertainty principle ensures that we can never know both the exact time and place and the velocity of a sub atomic particle at the same moment ... still, this tells us nothing about the Mind of The Force. But, Jen is a good concept for out discussion on the True Nature of The Force. "... Jen can be viewed as a single principle with three interlinked dimensions: human-cosmic unity, moral-metaphysical goodness and practical-universal love. Jen may be humanity, virtue and love

Ahh, young grasshopper, good question. Is The Force Yin or Yang? Or both? Even though the Dark Side is the sinister Yang, perhaps we see now how the animus manifests itself so strongly, counter-balancing the anima of the LightSide Yin. Certainly don't get on its Dark Side, or you're definitely screwed .... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You should read up on your Yin Yang philosophy again .. it's the other way around .. Yin is the Feminine and darkness while Yang is male and Light! ^_^ http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/CHPHIL/YINYANG.HTM <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He shoots ... he -- misses as the ball bounces into the waiting hands of the defender who clears it and, with less than a second on the clock, shoots an amazing 60 yard basket to win the game! :"> Dang! I was shooting from the hip to intercept the heckling in order to prevent the thread de-railing ... Well, just pretend I said Yang instead on Yin and vice versa. (I never proclaimed to be an expert of Eastern mysticism ... "I know enough to know I know nothing.") Dang!

Pretend I haven't read any of the fiction *ahem* ... any variation on the Force-Sensitives-are-the-only-magic-users-every-other-class-is-either-a-theif-or-a-wookie-or-a-fighter ? Because that's one of the biggest limitations IMNSHO.

... or become an assassin in one of the guilds, maybe a cleric/preist (where are all the religions in Star Wars?), perhaps gnome technician (

Ahh, young grasshopper, good question. Is The Force Yin or Yang? Or both? Even though the Dark Side is the sinister Yang, perhaps we see now how the animus manifests itself so strongly, counter-balancing the anima of the LightSide Yin. Certainly don't get on its Dark Side, or you're definitely screwed ....

Contractual obligation with LA: they had to make the LA boards look less gimped. So they "archived" a lot of the content on these boards, hoping that in the ensuing chaos a lot more name-calling would break out and thus the other boards wouldn't suffer as much in comparisons ... Darth Flatus: Jedi Headcrab Level 5 / Sith Sloth Level 23

Oooh, sorta like a real-life Farehheit 451 scenario ... where hundreds of filesharers each store one graphic model / subplot / miscellaneous derivative component each ... "... In other news today, software publisher LucasArts confirmed they had continued with their court approved action of 'putting [the] malicious software code beyond use' by burning at the stake all impounded computer equipment, droids and pirate-dog-costume-wearing miscreants. ... "Also, reports have been coming in from pet owners who have seen masked offenders 'going postal'. Authorities are treating it as serious, and advising anyone who sees a pet in prisoner robes to avoid them at all costs. These pets are dangerous, but as yet the two incidents are not being linked. ..." :D

Yeah, but that's not a RPG. I just figured some of the folk that a)like Jedi Knight and b)like RPG (which I assume people do if they're posting on here), would mean they'd be interested in a RPG set during that time period. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, I wasn't criticising the idea, more the fact that the game was a bit disapointing ... we need a game that they can make badly that will still be a good game ... (gratuitous dead animal abuse removed on legal advice) "

KotOR3: The Plaid Jedi

Just curious, how does that work -- using Xbox live to update it?