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This little octopus got a new home. Made me feel all warm and fuzzy at the end (and angry at the ****ing endless stream of plastic waste making it into the environment at the same time)

I don't see a conflict there. You're the one who seems to flip flop a bit about whether it's good or bad to have a free market economy, support entrepreneurs etc. but now that is suddenly bad and now you want the state to overrule private companies decisions. One moment you don't really like the EU and the next moment their data protection laws are suddenly a good thing. Not much point in a debate if you keep changing your mind. If I don't a work place, I'm happy to leave and have done so in the past. Edit: Explained in simple English: Yes, I do favour things like minimum wages to prevent workforce exploitation, I do favour work safety regulations to prevent workers from become a literally expendable asset, I do favour the enforcement of anti discrimination measures etc. No, I don't believe in a "top down" economy, where everything is decided by the those party members who are either the most ruthless or the most servile boot lickers. I do not believe people should be tied to hospital beds under guard while being forcefully injected with AZ vaccine. I do believe companies have the right to require people to get vaccinated as part of their employment conditions. It's a balancing act and we can disagree about where the sweet spot is between the extremes.

It's entirely optional. Unlike say skin colour or gender, getting vaccinated is a choice. You can chose not to work there if you don't like the job requirements. Part of living in a free market economy. Unless you want the state to control those companies. Edit: It's not like you're an Uighur (assumption on my part), so you're less at risk of getting sent to a government run company to do forced labour because you were born to the "wrong" parents.

Not entirely. It's also about the damage you can cause your workplace if not vaccinated. Like a bus driver without a license applying for a bus driver job. He may be perfectly capable of driving that bus, but if **** hits the fan, the insurance wont pay and the bus company is screwed. Hence, the company has to protect itself. The laws about what you can't use as an argument are rather specific (but in general stuff that are of discriminatory nature against things where people have no choice i.e. race, gender, sexual orientation etc.). Not that any of those things in reality impacts the workplace other than ruffling the feathers of a few bigots. Pregnancy is a special case, because most countries are interested in keeping population numbers up. Not that I really understand how that is going to solve the overpopulation issue, but for mysterious reasons they do *). Alternatively, women would just stop giving birth altogether, so you could argue there is a special case there. The task of giving birth is a bit unevenly distributed amongst men and women at the moment. *) Now I feel like watching Monty Pythons 'The Meaning of Life' again.

You don't need to "actively" punish people to get a point across. Sometimes rewarding those who embrace an idea can do the same. I.e. like some of the major financial institutions are doing in the US. If you want to work for us, you better prove you've gotten two vaccine shots or you are not a proper fit for this company. Then it's entirely up to the individual to prioritize what they want in life. A job for said institution or look for work elsewhere (and elsewhere is shrinking). Nobody is forcing them at gunpoint. It's a free country after all. Edit: Unless someone somewhere wants to argue that the government should prevent that and take over control of private companies in the old fashioned Soviet style. Edit2: Speaking of Soviet style... it does look like Florida has become a new Soviet Republic with the state government actively forbidding local authorities from trying to prevent the pandemic.

The first one was funnier

Your exposure to Xi supporters seems to be very limited. Those who have seen something other than the Xi propaganda machine fears both Xi and his supporters. It can be deadly to them and their family back home in China if they don't tow the party line while abroad. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/mar/12/chinese-students-in-australia-fear-reprisals-at-home-if-they-speak-out-inquiry-hears Chinese students in Australia are afraid to speak out on politically sensitive issues because of potential repercussions for relatives back home, a parliamentary inquiry has been told. Human Rights Watch has said its ongoing research into academic freedom in Australia had found anxiety and loneliness among Chinese students, with some engaging in self-censorship to avoid a backlash from Beijing. Addressing an inquiry into foreign interference in the university sector, Sophie McNeill, a researcher for Human Rights Watch Australia, said on Thursday there was “a very deep fear of being watched, of being reported on”. https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/australian-campuses-chinese-students-fear-beijings-surveillance TAIPEI, TAIWAN - Chen Yun, a Chinese student at the University of Melbourne, has always been curious about different political systems. After she arrived in Australia, she started posting on social media about the push for democratic reforms in China. Then came the harassment. She started receiving emails warning that she should be “careful” because if she returns to China, someone would “give her a lesson.” https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/30/theyre-being-watched-chinese-pro-democracy-students-in-australia-face-threats-and-insults Wu Lebao, 38, recounts receiving a string of insulting messages and calls from a fellow student calling him stupid and a traitor to China. The alleged harassment experienced by Wu – who is studying mathematics at the Australian National University in Canberra – recently took a disturbing turn. “He also said he would come to my door at night,” Wu, who lives in student accommodation, tells Guardian Australia. “It worried me a little bit.” https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/06/30/they-dont-understand-fear-we-have/how-chinas-long-reach-repression-undermines Surveillance, Harassment, and Threats The Chinese government maintains surveillance of Chinese mainland and Hong Kong students in Australian universities. Human Rights Watch verified three cases of students whose family in China were visited or were requested to meet with police regarding the student’s activities in Australia. While this number is low (though other cases may not have been reported to Human Rights Watch), the fact this occurs at all is enough to keep thousands of other students on edge and fearful. So yes, death threats to themselves and their family back home is what awaits those Chinese who dares mention such ideas like democracy to Xi supporters. we will have to disagree on that front as I think your view on Xi his reign of terror, is naive at best and dangerous at worst. Don't get me started on how the Uighurs might feel about daring to speak out about their misgivings to Xi supporters. Edit: Dangerous, because you are exactly that kind of "weak link" that XI supporters would love to recruit to track, harass and abuse people who are against the regime, in places where Chinese intelligence can't operate overtly.

There, fixed it for you. Both China and Russia are about as fascist as you get. Big business is *tolerated* as long as they dance to the tune of the presiding autocrat, whether Putin or Xi. Russian billionaires who thought themselves safe are wetting their pants, fearing the knock on the door from intelligence officers. Chinese billionaires are "disappearing" after mock trial and sentence according to the new Hong Kong rules (basically, anything critical of the regime is a crime punishable by whatever we can make up at the time).

I suppose there are hobbies and there are hobbies! https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58077039 "The defendant, 84, has been handed a suspended prison sentence of 14 months and has been ordered to pay a fine of €250,000 (£213,469). Officials found the tank and other World War Two-era military equipment at the defendant's house in the northern town of Heikendorf in 2015. The army had to help remove the items. On Monday, the court ordered that the defendant, who cannot be named under German privacy laws, must sell or donate the tank and an anti-aircraft cannon to a museum or collector within the next two years." No constitutional rights to have tanks and anti anti-aircraft cannons at home in Germany by the looks of it

DeSantis... "The Florida Butcher"? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58077209 "US health officials say 11,515 Florida residents are currently in hospital. Many are younger and healthier than patients seen earlier in the pandemic. On Saturday, Florida set a record for most new infections in a single day. Republican Governor Ron DeSantis opposes efforts to make vaccines or masks mandatory. Across the US, one in three new cases last week were recorded in Florida or Texas." Sort of a giveaway what parts of the US *not* to be in, at least at the moment I suppose.

I *think* they (or the wife at least) is a bit homesick for Serbia. They had planned to go back for an "extended vacation" this winter (that's summer time in Europe, i.e. July/August). Obviously not going to happen. We sometimes sit and watch pictures and google earth/streetview from her home town and hear the stories about them having to take cover when Nato planes were bombing the area.

For whatever reason my Serbian friends don’t like Djokovic and always cheers for his opponent. Even when we went to see one of his matches live at Australian Open. Something about him seems to rub people the wrong way.

I thought fika was Swedish slang for sex

Never underestimate the importance of motivation. The Taliban believe in their cause. Government troops believe in the paycheck that may or may not pay their next rent... if it doesn't bounce because the government is broke.

And you thought the tax authorities were persistent

Sort of "discovering" one of the other game modes in Guild Wars 2, the wvw aka World vs. World. If running with a group of like minded IDGAF it can be fun on a different scale. Especially in the voice chat A squad leader that is reluctantly squad leader (because nobody else wants to), an alcoholic, a handful of girls that are the meanest butchers and killer pvp players around (as long as they have other players to kill, they are all giggling and having fun), old timers like me who plays more of a jack of all trades character, theory crafters, etc. Just plain fun. Taking keeps, towers, supply camps, killing supply Dolyaks (aka "cows") to starve defenders out, running away from mobs that outnumber you 80 to 10 and try to build defensive siege engines (I love pouring burning oil on people) and so on. Edit: wvw is pitting populations of one server against two other servers in a 3 way fight on a number open world maps dedicated to it. Each server ("world") has it's own borderlands to defend while trying to attack the other two servers territory. A large, compact map is in the middle which is sort of a prestige thing to hold the central keep in.

You might not be doing yourself any favours (other than the fun of it of course) when dealing with certain personality types like aforementioned sharp_one... https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder.htm " It’s more accurate to say that people with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) are in love with an idealized, grandiose image of themselves. And they’re in love with this inflated self-image precisely because it allows them to avoid deep feelings of insecurity. But propping up their delusions of grandeur takes a lot of work—and that’s where the dysfunctional attitudes and behaviors come in." ... "People with narcissistic personality disorder are extremely resistant to changing their behavior, even when it’s causing them problems. Their tendency is to turn the blame on to others. What’s more, they are extremely sensitive and react badly to even the slightest criticisms, disagreements, or perceived slights, which they view as personal attacks." That being said, could I ask as a favour if people would take discussions of mental health issues to the old mental health thread or create a new one? That being said, maybe some day a thread about LBGTQXYZ (honestly no idea what letters are used today) would be an idea, to discuss why people are so afraid and insecure when dealing with people that are different from themselves (or things they don't understand). A problem with society that is not necessarily a political problem, but one of psychology and intellectual shortcomings.

You could just check out their youtube channel, all the publicly available videos current and past are there Being a Patreon backer just means getting an early preview (and support their work, so the videos keep flowing)

As mentioned previously (at least I think I mentioned it), the latest Honest Government Ads take on the Australian governments handling of the situation in Australia

This Not going to move existing posts (too much work on a phone *cough*), but please continue this subject in one of the other threads. Politics or Covid

Do we need to close the borders to space?

Or get used to having your annual covid vaccine shot for the next 300 years... Edit: I have no idea, but @Zoraptor may know some typical figures for how long it takes humans to adapt to new diseases and co-exist so to speak. No idea what the guy does for a living, but I suspect his knowledge of virology and dna/rna is more than just casual.

Can they issue the death penalty for politicians that deliberately kill people (outside of stuff like war etc.)? Edit: After all, if they are so keen on getting people killed, they should really appreciate experiencing it themselves.

Who said anything about masks outside? And please... not even going to click a link to daily fail. About as trustworthy as Fox News, which means not at all. If that is the source of your debunk that is, you need to find better. It's worked for 12 months without fail down under. The only reason it didn't work this time was because a local government decided to believe that kind of crap (the same position which also failed miserably in Sweden, hence why the other Nordic countries closed their borders to Sweden, no idea if they've reopened them since) More likely, but that's my own speculation, business interests pushed them to *not* do a lockdown this time, when the federal quarantine system failed yet again (something it's been doing at least once a month the last 12 months). The reason the lockdown didn't work this time was, they didn't do a lockdown. Only now, after the bird left the cage and it's to late to fix it easily, did they realize that their not so bright ideas might come back to bite them.

I can't link to any direct quotes, because they never said it directly (afaik). Just 12 months of constant criticism of the other state PM's in the media for enforcing mask rules and doing snap lockdowns (to prevent lengthy lockdowns down the road). If you repeat a message often enough, people think you actually stand for what you say and that forcing people to wear masks and do lockdowns is a bad idea. Edit: And yes, I the failure is first and foremost on a federal level because of the complete lack of a program to handle travelers entering Australia (something local state PM's have no jurisdiction over) and the completely ****ed up vaccine situation. But, unlike when Australia was burning down to the ground, there is no option for Scott Morrison to just put his family on a plane and flee to Hawaii (to go on "vacation" while things comes crashing down back home). Edit2: To compound the issue, there are not even *signs*, that the federal government is trying to fix any of their many mistakes. Neither the quarantine situation nor the vaccine situation.