archangel979

NWN2 was full of such situations, I remember I was going crazy all the time because my squishy main character kept being sent in front...

This change I like a lot, I didn't see the need to have two similar mechanics. I also like the name change as DT was only used in Fallout and it is not known to all. In D&D DR does work like flat damage reduction and this is now inline with that. As for if this change will be good overall, that we have to see in practise. I hope the damage per hit will be lower now and fights will last longer.

They are but only if they are made interesting. My point was that newer games don't make them interesting and even worse make them like in MMOs about hunting down X of Y. In BG1, a fetch quest didn't really feel like one often, more like part of the world. BG2 barely had fetch quests, I cannot remember many of them.

^That is a cool question! Although I love the IE games and the NWN/2-games, the NPC baddies standing there in certain convo first-then fight-situs are pretty bad and hugely unfair. DA:I have done away with a lot of that, actually, and it becomes much more challenging even with pausing and tactical view. Obviously Medreth and his gang are nuts. They just stand there, frozen in place, allowing our party to surround them, even breathe down their necks, until a certain sentence triggers them to react. In short, they start off with a huge disadvantage, especially in a town near resting facilities and shops. Instead, Medreth could stand there, seemingly alone, and do all of the talking, and as soon as the trigger sentence flies off, he throws a smoke bomb and then immediately attacks and retreat, all the while his goons begin shooting the party from all angles with arrows and bullets. Later, if the party seem hurt enough - they'll approach with weapons drawn and release the boar on them. Good luck, adventure party! BG games have plenty of these guys that were not hostile until you initiated the conversation with them. You could do whatever before talking and then start combat.

I wish you worked at Blizzard SC2 could use people that think like this.

Well you are a silver supporter, you are not the one we are talking about. I would love to hear from more people that supported the game at lowest levels about their motivations for that amount.

Regardless on what price game will be sold when it is finished and distributed in stores, the main advantage that KS backers get from being backer is to get game made in first place, as otherwise it wouldn't have been made. Of course cheaper price and earlier access could have given additional enticement to back for somebodies, but I would say for most of the backers those play quite small if any part in their decision to become backers. And I am quite sure that people will pay much less, for example, than me (about $400) when game finally comes out. This is what people that gave more than minimum think. The 95% of backers want a cheaper game first (the 95% are those that gave as little as possible to get the game). On average people gave $54 for the game, which of course comes from simple math where you divide end sum with number of backers, which don't tell how the sum is actually divided between backers, but it gives you number that tells you how much game would have cost for you if all the backers had paid same amount for it. Of course I can't say why people backed game, but I would say it is bit unrealistic to expect to get it cheaper than anybody can ever get the game if you take part to fundraiser to make it possible to make the game in first place. Average means nothing in this case and has nothing to do with my statement. My 95% is not an accurate number, but I am sure I would be far from it if I went to count it. The point still stands that most people wanted to get a game they would like to play cheap. EDIT: OK did some math (this only includes KS backers). 62.07% people backed the game at base levels that give you a digital copy of the game. 11.35% people backed the game at the 35$ level that also gives you a manuals and soundtracks. This is a cheaper version of digital Deluxe versions of games on Steam. 7.74% people backed it at 50$ level which is an expanded digital Deluxe level (and probably costs the same as digital deluxe will). Lot of people also opted to take add-ons, meaning that they gave more money than their tier indicates.) But any way I would say it is bit silly to complain that people that didn't back the game should not get game as cheap as most low level backers (if Paradox would had decided to do so) when those backers got game as cheap as they got only because other people were willing to invest more money in the game (people in $20-$50 tiers only put about $1.6 million towards game if we don't take account add-ons, which is less than half of the money pledged towards the game). We don't count those same as we don't count people like me that bought it through the website for 35$ which was the cheapest one that gets you the game.

If this was school this would be the moment where you would be told "sit down, you failed" . If this was work this would be the moment where they tell you to "go back to school".

And Skyrim is a good RPG for roleplaying a loner wolf wilderness explorer because that is the only simulation it did well. For anything else you need a competent story like others are saying. Narrative can only take you so far.

Regardless on what price game will be sold when it is finished and distributed in stores, the main advantage that KS backers get from being backer is to get game made in first place, as otherwise it wouldn't have been made. Of course cheaper price and earlier access could have given additional enticement to back for somebodies, but I would say for most of the backers those play quite small if any part in their decision to become backers. And I am quite sure that people will pay much less, for example, than me (about $400) when game finally comes out. This is what people that gave more than minimum think. The 95% of backers want a cheaper game first (the 95% are those that gave as little as possible to get the game). On average people gave $54 for the game, which of course comes from simple math where you divide end sum with number of backers, which don't tell how the sum is actually divided between backers, but it gives you number that tells you how much game would have cost for you if all the backers had paid same amount for it. Of course I can't say why people backed game, but I would say it is bit unrealistic to expect to get it cheaper than anybody can ever get the game if you take part to fundraiser to make it possible to make the game in first place. Average means nothing in this case and has nothing to do with my statement. My 95% is not an accurate number, but I am sure I would be far from it if I went to count it. The point still stands that most people wanted to get a game they would like to play cheap. EDIT: OK did some math (this only includes KS backers). 62.07% people backed the game at base levels that give you a digital copy of the game. 11.35% people backed the game at the 35$ level that also gives you a manuals and soundtracks. This is a cheaper version of digital Deluxe versions of games on Steam. 7.74% people backed it at 50$ level which is an expanded digital Deluxe level (and probably costs the same as digital deluxe will).

I don't agree with this. As I said, kiting is an advanced technique that not everyone uses. I been watching any BG1 stream I could on Twitch in last few months and any newbie I ran into didn't kite. They just let melee run up to their ranged and don't do anything about it (not even switch to a melee weapon). I tend to kite with ranged specialized characters (like my Archer in IWDEE) but sometimes I just switch to a melee weapon because I cba to do it always. It takes much more effort and lot more pausing to kite often.

Regardless on what price game will be sold when it is finished and distributed in stores, the main advantage that KS backers get from being backer is to get game made in first place, as otherwise it wouldn't have been made. Of course cheaper price and earlier access could have given additional enticement to back for somebodies, but I would say for most of the backers those play quite small if any part in their decision to become backers. And I am quite sure that people will pay much less, for example, than me (about $400) when game finally comes out. This is what people that gave more than minimum think. The 95% of backers want a cheaper game first (the 95% are those that gave as little as possible to get the game).

I strongly disagree, because kiting is silly tactic that works only because AI programming is poor. Which of course don't mean that players should not use it in their tactics repertory if it works in the game, but if it works it is mostly because developers didn't do perfect job. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Kiting has been in many many games over the years and it is considered one of the more interesting things. In Starcraft 2 zerg banelings owned groups of marines until one of the players started kiting with marines very well. It wasn't stupid, it made the game much more interesting. OK, this was a MP example but still kiting is not stupid. Also it is not needed, even in RTS games kiting is considered an advanced tactic and it is not needed to beat the novice or newbie enemy (it certainly is not needed to beat singleplayer campaigns). Also in BG games, not everyone kites and certainly people don't kite effectively. Kiting is only needed for special plays (all team squishy) and it is good that it exists as it empowers different plays and increases replayability.

If everyone could get the game at same price as KS backers, what would be the advantage of being a backer than? KS backers risk the most by giving money that early.

That is not kiting lol, that is just an enemy running away scared.

No it wasn't. I don't care for specific people, but I care that general public likes easy games with all VO. As a result we no longer can have nice things. Well, not totally true now that KS has brought back some of these games, but I want more than only a few.

Base AI in Bg1 does not kite or it does so very rarely. BG1EE AI also does not kite.

I second this one

OK, I can get behind that idea.

Are you sure? You did tell me to get DAI.

Oh please. Let's stop this immature, petty, kindergarten crap. Yes because your post is full of awesome grown up logic... Well, it IS very condescending to say "players don't want to read". It's also a huge blanket statement used to further ones belief that they are a "True Gamer" or whatnot. And it is even worse so call someone a kid. At least my statement was not pointed at a certain person.

You've posted as such before. It was trite then, too. Why are you even in this thread? Because I really liked DAO and did finish DA2 and I was hoping DAI was going to be a better game and was hoping to play it in that case. So I am voicing my displeasure now and I have the right to do so. But you stated time after time you've never played it. So by your own logic, you don't have a leg to stand on. If you walk down the street and find **** on the floor, do you pick it up, smell it and taste it before you decide it is **** after all and continue on your way?

You don't understand it then I see. Yes, it is the amount of money you can put into a game but the purpose is to get a sizable profit on it. For that you needs sales in millions of units which ask that your game is of a type that more than one group of gamers will want to buy. And that is why Blizzard is making half casual games now, because they can earn back their investment. At the same time, these are the games I don't care about.

You've posted as such before. It was trite then, too. Why are you even in this thread? Because I really liked DAO and did finish DA2 and I was hoping DAI was going to be a better game and was hoping to play it in that case. So I am voicing my displeasure now and I have the right to do so.

I also don't care to even download this crappy game. I got enough good games to play anyways (20th BG1EE play, need to finish WL2, finish last 20% of IWDEE and so on).