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http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/VictorGont/...s_Marketing.php I don't think it was naivety, I believe he was subtly pointing out that an M-rated game is not supposed to be targeting adolescent teens with their marketing. His whole article is how some games, and their advertising campaigns, aggressively retard the maturation of the game industry. I hope we can all agree that the Dead Space 2 campaign of "Your mom hates our game" is one of the dumbest marketing ploys ever. Are there really even adolescents who that appeals to? It's a survival horror game. I don't remember Saw or even Friday the 13th ever having such a stupid marketing campaign.

I'm not quite sure what you are going for with that statement, but it came across as pretty douchy. If I lose all the data on my computer, it is still a messed up situation, even though it is not a tangible thing I have lost. Virtual goods in a game are the same thing, they have a value, they represent and investment of time, and it sucks when they are lost.

Temple of Elemental Evil - The thread here inspired me to play it, and I actually have gotten farther than I have in the past (without cheating, at least.) It is amazing that this game was done by the same people who did Arcanum, it is really a terrible job of story and pacing. I think the worst part is the first dungeon (moathouse) is extremely difficult. XP is fairly limited, so when you arrive at the dungeon, you will likely be underpowered. If you manage to survive and clear it out, the village you just saved barely acknowledges it. It felt rather pointless. The loot is pretty weak too! Ah well, the combat engine is still phenomenal.

Europe isn't really a continent anyways. I don't even think it's a real place, it's like never never land.

The Rhine seems to me to be a bit too much to the West to be a valid limit between western and eastern Europe. Former DDR, former Tchekoslovakia, Hungaria, Rumania are in central Europe. After that you can think about considering eastern Europe. But even there, like in some parts of Poland, this is still very central european. You can sum up things by just considering that : - Western Europe is the part of Europe where countries consider that the invasions come from the East. - Eastern Europe is the part of Europe where countries consider that the invasions come from the West. - Central Europe is the part of Europe where countries consider that the invasions come from the West and the East. Of course, Central Europe suffered a lot more. There really isn't a right or wrong answer here, all I'm saying is those are all political delineations that have not existed all that long. The Rhine and the Danube marked the eastern border of the Roman Empire. For centuries it was a very clear divider between the Roman civilization and barbarian masses.

Ok? Are you saying Russia is culturally an Asian country?

Eastern and Western Europe haven't exactly been clearly defined throughout history. The Rhine and the Danube was really the most logical border between east and west, and it is only recently that it became a political division with the Iron Curtain. edit: Sorophx, 78% of the population of Russia lives in the designated European area. It is referred to as Eurasia, if we want to be technical.

I'm pretty sure he assumed we meant the cleaning industry acronym for Need Sanitation Freon Wipes.

AP and NV were just so different. Sure, they both have great stories, characters, and C&C, but the scale and scope is different

Seconded. I played a couple of them, but this was the only one that felt like it expanded on the story as a whole, rather than just being a side mission.

This surprises you? Krezack is our resident bohemian

There are a couple issues with this line of thinking. First off, DA is a complete game, without any of the DLC (even the free stuff.) You can play it all the way to the conclusion, they don't ask you to insert more coins to continue the story line. There was likely a specific team working on DLC. This isn't any different than a specific team working on an expansion. The difference is DLC is typically smaller, available faster, cheaper, etc. It can be offered on day one while an expansion obviously would not. Whether it was created after the game was released or not really isn't the point, it was developed to be DLC.

I didn't necessarily care that they had DLC content ready at release for DA. I did not like the way they handled it though, by having a guy show up in your camp telling you about an exciting adventure, and then asking for your credit card. ME2 handled it way better.

How does "Protesting killing" (which is basically what they're attempting to do I believe... the military protests and such are protesting the taking of lives and not living by the strictest code of the bible) fall under "satanist"? They're not protesting killing, they believe it's good that our soldiers are dying because US allows homosexuality. They also believe that it's good that a small child was killed for the same reason. They also try to add as much as they can to the anguish of the families of the fallen. So if they believe their deity approves of them, their deity must be Satan. That made a surprising amount of sense. I would definitely say these folks fail to grasp the teachings of Jesus in any way.

Coming of age stories are a basic staple of literature and film. It was just odd to hear you say the coming of age stories of incredibly successful people are not interesting.

So...coming of age stories are all rubbish? Someone better alert, like, everyone!

Ok, I'll put a picture of my daughter up if you want to use it Orogun

Google took considerably longer to develop its empire than Facebook. Still, I am sure they could tell the story well enough. Did you ever see Pirates of Silicon Valley? I thought that was a great telling of the Steve Jobs/Bill Gates story.

The Facebook guy has a net worth of almost $7 billion. When someone becomes hugely successful nearly overnight, there is usually a story there. I haven't seen the movie, but apparently they told that story in a very entertaining way. According to the Facebook guy they also put in a lot of false stuff, but you should never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Sorry Orogun, I only pose for nude action shots involving expensive cheese.

I'm on slow DSL, I get about 50k download rates. 12 gigs would take me about a week.

The crazy thing about the picture is it was taken right after the shooting. While there are plenty of ugly people out there, most probably wouldn't be grinning like a moron after going on a shooting spree. Most also wouldn't go on a shooting spree, I suppose.

Is the point to be a ****, no matter what? Sure looks like it! *Richard. A small one. To be honest, I never actually read Gromnir's posts. I'll skim them a bit, but the edited quote stood out because it was extremely tasteless and rude. I can't even bring myself to try and decipher his gibberish response. Ha, good fun, I guess. Nepenthe, I wouldn't waste time with a guy that posts as a make believe character all the time.

I actually thought it was extremely inappropriate for Gromnir to misquote Nepenthe in a way that made him look like a pedophile. For a lawyer, that seemed like a pretty blatant case of libel.

That is fantastic. Thank you for posting it, my entire outlook on mankind has brightened Please tell me you're being sarcastic. Please. Nope. Now I did say brightened, not radically altered. In fact you are the one who brought up change. My opinion is there is a long way to go. But I am a positive person, and this is a very positive action. I'm confused what you folks mean by staged? Thousands of Muslims got together to show support for the Coptic Christians. It was clearly an organized event with the media involved. How does that lessen it?