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You have a link? After searching a few sites I couldn't find anything post-2003 that would suggest PS2 market share is that high. I did find that X-box has a 24% market share as of the start of this year, and since the gamecube had that boom late last year, I highly doubt the PS2 is still that strong world wide. Tho they are clearly still the leaders.

now we know what the next game is called. <_< Pokemon: Purple?

At the very start it bugged me, but now I can't imagine using the arrow keys.

I liked the mouse movement.

LOL A la "Link" or Simon's quest

I'm being paid by "the man" to be here.

I don't have any magical info, but you want to bet? Winner picks an avatar for the loser to use for a week!

Ok, so it's safe to assume she is alive during a darkside ending. So, taht could be played with. anyways, I see pros and cons to both ways of doing it. Nice arguing with ya

Rouge squadren 1 and 2 wern't that far apart. Anyways, with the clear critical and financial success of KOTOR I bet even Lucas Arts would be racing to get a sequel going. So would the boys at x-box, with some cash to get it going.

Hence turning Bastilla. Wait a minute, when you plan as a DS male, you need bastilla to prevent the republic fleet from attacking the star forge. What the hell happens if you kill her at the temple? Do you beat malak, then blow up? Yea, I can see that. Well, the game is "KNIGHTS of the old republic". I'd expect jedi to play a big role. I suppose you could fight guys with blasters the whole game, but that would suck.

Empire Strikes Back anyone My point being, you can have the good guys look like they are almost done for (a la DS ending) but in the follow ups (kotor2, return of the jedi) have the LS win out. The republic looked like it was screwed during the DS ending, but it wasn't nessasarily dead just yet. If nothing else, there was still the strongest jedi on Corusant. I don't think that they ever said that the republic fleet that lost was all the ships the republic had either. It was a "quick strike" to quote Carth, so I doubt they could must everything they had. So the Republic was down, but not out. A very bleak situation, but not hopeless. A la Empire Strikes Back. KOTOR2 could be a kind of return of the jedi...minus the ewoks.

maybe like...o I don' t know... a long time ago in a galaxy far far away? I swear, few people will look like bigger asses than me if this game isn't kotor2.

But is that really a direct sequel? Its more like what FO2 did, where you just skip forward to get rid of any "problems" you would have in dictating what happened. Doesn't a direct sequel have to follow up on important events and at least some of the people? Isn't that the point of a direct sequel, to further the story of the characters in the previous game? If not, all you are doing is using the setting of the previous game, not really making a sequel. It would be like the FF games then. Using FO2 as an example, which I enjoyed more than FO1, wouldn't you say the story suffered from having to skip around the past? Even then you can't avoid it. You can avoid it even less in a true KOTOR sequel, because the two different endings can't be tied together like the endings of FO. Plus, you have much deeper NPCs in KOTOR than FO (Fo wasn't about the npcs). Do you just abandon them and their storylines? Especially after the ending of KOTOR, light and dark, left it all open ended? Granted, but thats not really what were talking about Right, but using your logic, that should be unexcusable, right? I mean, forcing a proper ending on someone would violate many more of thier choices in a game than just saying what happened to a NPC. You see, something has to give. Also, done correctly, I see easy ways for the DS ending of KOTOR to be canon without rewriting anything. Hell, thay made Revan the hero of the mandalorian wars (a pretty big addition to the SW universe). I don't see why they can't make other big additions. Regardless, I wouldn't expect the next kotor to be a direct sequel.

I suppose its glass full/glass empty kind of thing. As I think they do. So, btw, what would you do about carth if you made a direct sequel (i forgot you can kill him as a ds female if you want)? Some endings he lives, in others he dies. Someone is going to get screwed. What you are suggesting would eliminate direct sequels, as you can't be that ambiguous about that many different possible senerios. Whats the point of the sequel then? Thats putting words into my mouth. I NEVER said don't make the game non-linear. I said, if your making a direct sequel, the devs need to make choices about what happend in the previous game. Otherwise the story suffers, imo.

I know we all want to hear what the game is, but Obsidian needs to develop a good rep with this first game. If the game got leaked, I don't think the publisher would be to thrilled.

::SPOLIERS:: I just can't see it your way. The choices are irrelevent. Its a video game! You play it to have fun! I just can't fathom a good game being ruined for me by a sequel that is different that I thought it was going to be. Did that really change my gaming expirence? Did I not have fun now because of this? I just don't understand. Chrono Cross was about as different as I could expect from a Chrono Trigger sequel, but I still very much enjoyed it. If you killed Tandy in FO1, would you be pissed she was in FO2? How can you put such limitations on the devs ability to try and tell an interesting story? As for my idea (as if it was real) ruining something, how? First, SOMETHING had to happen in KOTOR (did you play it?). Either the DS, LS, or your guy dies trying had to happen. So why not the DS? Something has got to give, right? As I said, Carth would be alive on the star forge planet in the sequel, thats because he WAS left on the planet in the DS ending of KOTOR!!! I didn't make that up. I said you would fight the assaisin droid and the other "npcs left standing" because they stuck with Revan in the DS path of KOTOR, so you prolly would run into them if you are gunning for Revan. Again, I didn't make that up. I also said you could you could try and turn Revan or Bastilla. There you got me, I assumed you didn't kill Bastilla. My bad. Would that really ruin the game for you tho? Other than that, I don't see how having a whole new guy to play ruins your perception of anything. Especially if you played the game as both LS and DS guys. EDIT: Just to make it clear, I wasn't saying you replay the game as revan, but as all that was going on, you start off with a new character somewhere else.

So there should never be a direct sequel to any RPG? Come on. Edit: I never understood people freaking out about a sequel being different than what they did in the previous game. If that shatters your mind, maybe you shouldn't be taking games so seriously. If you were refering to the above, I didn't make any of that up. Its all based of the DS ending in KOTOR.

I was thinking of an immediate follow up, and I do mean immediate. Maybe even have the two games overlap on the timeline a bit. Hence, while the people are trying to get to the star forge, something is happening on some other planet. IE, so the Republic never truely falls, at least, that is what your guy is trying to prevent (if he is good). I think it would be interesting. You still have Carth alive on the star forge planet, and you get to go up against HK-H7 (or whatever) and the other npcs left standing, and maybe turn Revan/Bastilla back. etc.

Actually, they might not be the first company to do it. Iply might beat them to the punch with the VB game that is "still in devolpment"

It's Pikmin 2 isn't it?

Well, not sure about the new one, but the old one had a post apoc thing going on. more like "fall of civilization" a la Mad Max

Why? Or are you going for the long odds to say "Look, I was right!"? Click me to see an interesting MCA comment

Actually, I loved the original Crimson Skies, I hear the one on the Xbox is pretty good. If Obsidians game comes out on the Xbox a long time before the PC, I'm might consider picking it up to get the few odd games I wanted to play. MOre or less what I did with the GC after Zelda, metroid, and mario came out.

I'd love to see tha game pick up after KOTOR with the DS ending.