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Are you suggesting that fine coutries like Sri Lanka are amusing? I'll have you know sir that Sri Lanka was steadfast in it's resolve to accept millions of dollars of the American tax payers money in agreement to support the war. How dare you sully their good name for your "amusment". Good day to you, sir. I SAID GOOD DAY!

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Overrated: New Bond films Underrated: Rescue Me Rebuttal: EA, it's in your wallet for another $50 bucks for a mear update.

Post something you think is over-rated and something that is under-rated, no explanation nessasary. Then, feel free to post one rebuttal on someone elses post, three sentences or less. Post multiple times. Just trying something Over-rated: Lord of the Rings movies Under-rated: Fallout 2

That would certainly screw over Bethesda's attempt at FO3 would it not? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, Fo3 comes out right, then like a week later BAM! Fo4 is released before it's actaully announced, fulfilling MCAs longstanding dream (for those of us around way back when, pre-K2 announcement, you might remember MCA speaking on the subject)

Germany = political posturing ahead of election. (Also Germany currently has no effective military force AND it may have been a political man

Considering their one of the few people heading up negotiations, I see it as very significant. It also prolly reflects apon their new close ties with France. Especially when Schroeder, speaking on behalf of the spearhead by Germany, Britain and France said: "But take the military options off of the table," Schroeder said. "We have seen that they're not suitable." So, maybe Sri Lanka is willing to attack, but their not a major player in this. Nor does it make it a creditable bargining chip. please actaully know what I am referencing before you reply. It saves time. No, I didn't say you did, but enjoy clearifying yourself anyways. You mean they will get weapons due to softball diplomacy and half-assed security measures (got to love those "seals") and threaten world security? Neat! There are many ways to deploy force, especially if the goal is just to set back their nuclear programs.

Their working on FO4!!!!

personally, I really like it If I may, it looks a little overcast, I think the picture would have been more "dramatic" if you will with better lighting. But mother nature and all that..

Nope, Germany has said war is off the table for them. When you don't have force as a last measure, you don't seem to have a convicing arguement in this case. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe they're looking at the inroads Iran is making by itself towards open democracy. A LOT of the populace is striving towards change. Look at how unhappy they were with the clerics not allowing certain candidates to run during the last election. It might be taking time, but attacking Iran now will just undo this and polarize people towards the invaders and set real, lasting reform back in that country by decades. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't say invade now or ever. i was responding to someone who said that Europe likes to talk before declaring war. I was simply point out that isn't tha case, in this case. I said that Europe (germany specifically) have seemingly taken force off the table. hence you've lost that bargining chip. A very powerful one in this position, empty words or not, if you ask me.

Ok, I'm prepared to agree to disagree. Or you win via perseverance well, you did send me an email that said "UN or Die" "

It might be (tho israel would have something to say about that) But the UDNP doesn't have the job or the right to decide that

That's also a political message. But one that has to do with democratic reform, which is their main purpose No, their not suppose to go to Cuba and try to get a Democracy. They are suppose to help push along those states that seemingly want a democracy. But listen to their job in their own words: It's a stretch to bend any of that into paying for mugs that bear the UNDP symbol and the slogan "tomarrow jerusalem", don't you think? UNDP isn't just there to give money to any state that says they want to be democratic, they are there to coach them on the best way to go about it and to provide funds (with oversite). This they failed to do. Mugs with potentially hostile slogans on them are not the best route to a stable democracy nor are they a wise way to spend the worlds money. I think the message on the mugs will only take the focus away from a stable democracy and shift it to land, which has clearly led to terrorism and violence. That is not UNDP place. If the UN is paying for a message that could be counter productive to it's main goal of stable democracy, then something is wrong with that picture. If you pay for a message to be broadcast without doing the exact same thing for the otherside (why not give the gaza settlers mugs then?) then you effectively promote that view. Logo or not. Yes, to some degree, but generally people allow that to fall into more of a human rights/access to information territory.

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Different context. The United States has a long tradition of democracy and doesn't need the UN to come in and help them understand how democracy works in practice. I can't believe I just wrote that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Our mind control device is working perfectly I think there is something to be said for that stance

This is what happened: Republic Commando was pushed back, so Lucasarts needed to support it's holiday line up. So the Xbox version of K2 got fast tracked, at the cost of the PC version and general quality, to get it out the door asap.

I see a trend between your name and your music

Of course they were more concerned about Allied lives! It was a war! LOL! They damn well should have been. And remember who attacked who first. That being said, while I agree with the first bomb (mostly), I have reservations about dropping the second.

The first part is the problem. UDNP job is to get free speech and human rights, not to fund the use of them. Because it's not their job. It isn't supporting democratic reform or human rights reform, it's supporting a political message. I agree, but the UNDP isn't a democracy, and it isn't in the buisness of political messages. It's there to help get free elections and human rights. Not to help people say political messages. Thats their own job once they get the rights. Maybe they should have had the message: Now that you have Gaza back, you should hold free elections to allow those in Gaza to have a say in goverment. it's Simple: The UNDP spent money carelessly and thus it ended up being spent incorrect. That was wrong. They didn't, as far as I can tell, do it with the intent to over reach their stated agenda tho.

For starters: Just so it's out there, I enjoy debating like this. Not to say I don't very truely believe in my stance, but.....long story short I never keep hard feeling about stuff like this. I'm not in this because I think your a jerk for disagreeing with me. K? This is taken from UNDP's website: These mugs come under 'advocacy', in that they represent a campaign for a particular policy. It's an essential part of the democratic process, and I'm sure UNDP is working on all the others at the same time. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, they are supposed advocate things like free speech and basic human rights, , hence the "to support national processes of democratic transitions" part, NOT a specific political message. Especially about land. Here is one of the heads of the UNDP: See the difference between advocating things like human rights and advocating a political message? this is also from their website, right below what you quoted:

I disagree, I think it is there to help ALLOW them to say what they want, legally speaking. Not to fund their specific propaganda which HAD THE UNDP LOGO ON IT. 1. I agree that we should give them the ability to speak, but I disagree that money is correctly spent on coffee mugs citing not only UNDP logo, but a specific message that does not sing the praises of the current withdrawal so much as it only demands more. 2. So, the best use of those funds was to make the case of the Palestinians to the..... Palestinians with coffee mugs? I don't think presenting the Palestinians case to themselves with coffee mugs was the best use. Or watch how the money was spent, but I think there was more. Here is the difference: If you bought a printing press and gave it to a respectable group to make newspapers, then I understand you can't be accountable for what they print and you are just supporting free speech. Even that is touch and go tho. I think, more correctly, it would be a case of the UNDP helping to let a goverment allow it's people to speak freely. But when you give them funds to print a specific message...than, logo or not, you are seen as giving support to that message. That is NOT the USDP place or service. and I don't by the "O, we just gave them the funds to use as they saw fit" arguement. The USDP needs to be accountable for what happens to the money it gives out, don't you think? What if it ended up going towards weapons?

Nope, Germany has said war is off the table for them. When you don't have force as a last measure, you don't seem to have a convicing arguement in this case.

UN General Assembly Resolution 181 http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/un/res181.htm <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you have, in fact, cited nothing. CORPUS SEPARATUM - Term used in the U.N. 1947 Partition Plan to describe the proposed independent status of Jerusalem that would not be the exclusive property of either the proposed Arab or Jewish state. Like all General Assembly resolutions, this was only a recommendation rather than an internationally legally binding instrument like the League of Nations' mandate for Palestine