Drowsy Emperor

I think its gone straight past the gates this time around. "Danke Deutschland"

Frankly, the behavior of the entire EU "elite", barring people like Orban, has been utterly bizarre, during this whole crisis.

Please tell me even you are disconcerted with this.

I admit its fascinating

No, its doktored. Until we get ISIS's accountant BVC isn't going to believe anything

Lol, what have we come to that even Assad says this.

At least that film knows what it is :D

And I would like Rostere to explain this: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate Sweden being the sixth country out of 119 countries at number of rapes per 100000, twice as many as the next western country (Belgium, then Iceland, Norway, France with substantially less). Old information, but having 61% of all rape committed by immigrants that are 14.3% of the population seems to indicate a clear problem.

The Martian. How the mighty have fallen. Ridley Scott should stop making films. In a way this is even more embarassing than Prometheus, which while a spectacularly bad film, still had some traces of Scott's former talent. The Martian is so mediocre, such an oatmeal of a film in every respect that had I not known he was directing it would have thought it the work of some no name Holllywood director. Hipster Matt Damon goes Robinson Crusoe on Mars. Except Crusoe had a harder time making Earth work for him than Matt Damon did making Earth from Mars.

Well, not necessarily the ethnicity, though, he didn't make much mention of it. Saying all Americans are dumb or that the British are bunch of drunkards isn't racist, it's being prejudiced against a large group, for example. If he had said he assumes the rape statistics would be high as those rascally Magyars like a bit of raping now and then, that would be racist. But that's what's implied. Hungary doesn't have any significant minorities (Roma?), so other than "Magyars liking a bit of raping now and then", why would anyone assume such a thing? It's not "hai guise here's Hungary rape stats, they pretty high", or "hai guise what are Hungary rape stats?". It's just BVC assuming random stupid **** about an Eastern Europe (read: non-Western) country. Unlike American or British, Hungarian is an ethnicity. Prejudice about a particular ethnicity is hard to write off as not racism. *braces for a YT rant from a random "not racist" guy with really bad taste in hairdos* Is anyone surprised? BVC is the pinnacle of "liberal" racism (more like racism applied liberally). Everyone non-western is a sad little untermenchen savage that should join the superior civilization, for their own good, you know. We are superior therefore you must accept us and if you don't you eventually will, because we will bomb you for your own good and democracy before you realize the error of your ways. And damn you for making us do it! And on and on it goes with fascinating, bot like persistence. I'll be honest Drowsy if what Sarex said is true about how belligerent all the ex-Yugoslavian countries still are then its best you don't join the EU....but I cant believe you guys refuse to move on and just can't achieve a meaningful peace with your neighbors? Its not that hard but you seem determined to follow the path of interminable conflict ...I don't understand the logic ? That was weak my friend, but enough to confirm everything I just said about you.

Except Hungary is a western country Well, not necessarily the ethnicity, though, he didn't make much mention of it. Saying all Americans are dumb or that the British are bunch of drunkards isn't racist, it's being prejudiced against a large group, for example. If he had said he assumes the rape statistics would be high as those rascally Magyars like a bit of raping now and then, that would be racist. But that's what's implied. Hungary doesn't have any significant minorities (Roma?), so other than "Magyars liking a bit of raping now and then", why would anyone assume such a thing? It's not "hai guise here's Hungary rape stats, they pretty high", or "hai guise what are Hungary rape stats?". It's just BVC assuming random stupid **** about an Eastern Europe (read: non-Western) country. Unlike American or British, Hungarian is an ethnicity. Prejudice about a particular ethnicity is hard to write off as not racism. *braces for a YT rant from a random "not racist" guy with really bad taste in hairdos* Is anyone surprised? BVC is the pinnacle of "liberal" racism (more like racism applied liberally). Everyone non-western is a sad little untermenchen savage that should join the superior civilization, for their own good, you know. We are superior therefore you must accept us and if you don't you eventually will, because we will bomb you for your own good and democracy before you realize the error of your ways. And damn you for making us do it! And on and on it goes with fascinating, bot like persistence.

Why would Hungary have any higher rape stats than any other country in the region?

Stop reading people's fantasies and wild speculations on the internet. That said: It is illegal in Sweden to keep records of ethnic heritage of people accused of or convicted of crimes. It is true that in some of the most segregated suburbs (there probably are three or so in Sweden) harassment of people with "improper" clothing could occur. Still, this is something which COULD happen, and the harassment would take the form of someone shouting something at you. I've walked with a tailcoat on through some of the "worst" suburbs of Stockholm without anything happening at all. Anyways, 99% of the things you read are probably outright lies, cherry-picking, or a mixture of both. That said, refugees have lately (talking the last year or so) become a huge short-term economic burden. The amount of money spent on juveniles coming to Sweden without their families is comparable to the collected expenditures of the entire state of Afghanistan, I've heard. For something you deem "fantasies and wild speculations" there are dozens of people passionately claiming this very thing that seemingly get nothing out of it. Are they all racists then?

It's the means by which some people cope with the lack of agency in their life by making themselves believe that those who suffer "had it coming". I can understand it, but unfortunately those in power benefit the most from it. See if the people your government oppressed care when they come knocking. Most of the people in my country didn't even vote for the current party in power (they had 24% of the vote but got over 50% of the seats), there was an outcry against bombing Syria that ended up preventing the current government from doing so, and were lied to by Mr Blair about Iraq (who most people want arrested for war crimes now), but you are right they won't care when they come knocking just as those your government have oppressed won't care either when they come knocking for you. The only people who won't suffer from all this is the very people responsible for it all, it'll be the schmucks like you and me that pay the price. The former Ottoman empire conquered, ruled (and terrorized) my country and the region in general for several hundred years. When the Turkey of today starts shooting down Russian planes one way of seeing it is that they're knocking on that imperialist door again in which case my attitude (going from historical experience) can only instantly shift from cold indifference to outright enmity. Strictly speaking I harbor no ill will towards any Turk or anyone else, but as far as their presence in Europe goes - once was more than enough. Naturally, its all politicians moving pieces on a board and the innocents who pay the price, but when all is said and done, some pieces are more dear to me than others.

I find the whole rape topic interesting. When one reads the anti-immigration articles, its one of the most prominent topics. The right is very insistent that muslim immigration is directly responsible for a huge spike in rape cases in nordic (and other) countries, and that the police and media purposefully omit the ethnicity and religion of the perpetrators on a regular basis to protect the whole multi-culti fantasy. Additionally, the punishments are usually extremely lenient. I've also read reports from women that harassment of native women walking around (not covered up) in the streets by muslim arabs and blacks is a regular thing. I can't tell how true this is because we do not have large numbers of muslims in the capital and most of those we do have are the domestic (Bosnian) type and they are far less religious and extreme than north-african/middle eastern types. And anyone molesting women in the way I've read is a regular occurrence in countries like Sweden would end up in pretty bad shape when word got out. I wonder if there's anyone here from a Nordic country who has first hand experience to comment on this.

How are they a great civilization? Lasted for a little over a hundred years and little more than barbarism and military conquest as its greatest achievement.

You realize that being in Sid Meier's Civilization doesn't actually make the Mongols a great civilization?

Nuke Turkey first and you have a deal

Why is this even a topic? I'm pretty sure no one on the set cared about this detail when they were making the film. I don't understand how someone can obsess about an utterly irrelevant sequence in a children's movie. Its like the: is Deckard a replicant? discussion, utterly ignoring the point of the film to look for hidden meanings that don't make sense.

George Lucas is a smart man

Aw, man, DE, I thought you were better than that. In my defense, I didn't know what I was thinking at the time.

The US and Turkey did manage to conveniently use the russian s400 as an excuse to stop their meager "anti-Isis" bombing campaign. Not missing a beat there

He's talking about words with fixed meaning, and when he uses them to mean something entirely different, he comes across as an undereducated fool. Now tell me, why should I value the opinion of an undereducated fool? You can talk about the same issue using either scientific or colloquial terms, and while it is generally better to be precise the point of the discussion is to get the meaning across first and foremost. I have a degree in political science and even I find it easier sometimes to convey meaning with the terms used in the news, blogs and other informal sources rather than talk straight out of a textbook. Ergo things like "cultural marxism" even though the term is flawed, possibly nonsensical (even if its meaning and much of the reality it describes is correct). And in social sciences terms are a lot more fluid anyway, its easy to find ten different definitions of the same thing.

What's the point of arguing semantics. You know exactly what he's talking about. The current moral and political climate in Europe is tragic, and the absurdities of the incumbent powers and their ideology is leading to divided societies and general misery in a continent that could be a political and military superpower, instead of being a midget. This crisis just makes it obvious that Europe has no idea what it is and where its going, which is a far cry from a continent that used to decide where the entire world was going. You may not personally feel the effects of all these cumulative bad decisions, but once you do start feeling them it may well be too late.

Well, this refugee crisis has taken us places.