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There is no real difference between democracy and dictatorship, in either case it is usually the financial elite that governs. Whether the system is set up so that you have the illusion of choice is relevant only an emotional level (I get to choose!). In practice, you, as in the common man, gets to decide nothing in either system barring exceptional circumstances - and those, such as the odd politician that climbed the social ladder from the bottom to the top are used as an example that democracy is superior (conveniently forgetting that even in the days of monarchs and dictators such things were not unheard of). Its just conditioning to make you believe whatever the ideology of the day is. People don't care about who is in charge or what the system is like as long as they have a comfortable existence. They say Putin is a dictator, yet it was alright for two members of the Bush family to be presidents. Possibly the wife of an ex president could become president herself soon. What oddly small circles the power in US revolves in, hmm?
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From my experience with UAE, the society is basically segregated and its highly unlikely that a guy can get away with doing anything to a girl - girls always go in packs, or with male companions so the chance of getting intimate in any shape or form is practically impossible. Not only would this sort of molestation be hard to pull off, a whole lot of people would be involved - namely the parents of the girls would take things into their own hands and it would be a major embarrassment to the families of the men within their own communities. However the people I saw in UAE are more or less affluent so its hard to say how things look in the lower income bracket. But the social pressure is very strong and in Europe all those limitations ( the "us as in ethnicity or religion", the "community", the likelihood of punishment) disappear.
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Ah, i see. Dictatorship is bad except when it's good. Okay. I never said dictatorship was bad, I only said the natives respect the propensity for violence and do not respect kind words and chiding. They see it as a sign of weakness. I would have thought that that is logical enough?
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Problem is too many of them are uneducated and/or morons, mainly. They're clever enough to know that if they molest girls on the street in Kabul, the consequences will be much harsher than in Amsterdam. Anyway, recent events speak for themselves. Mass molestation in Cologne - mayor proposes solution: keep men at arms length. Enough said.
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Lol, and how people like Putin rule and stay in power? And before you're going to say anything, recently a man was sentenced to 5 years in prison for holding a sign in public. And as you can guess it didn't say "I love Putin". So please, explain to me how a dictator happen to rule Russia? Is it because russians are simply used to violence and harsh punishment? Or maybe the answer is a little bit more complicated than that, just as with Middle East? Rosbjerg is absolutely right, every generation had it's own bogeyman. Unfortunetly every new generation forgets about it and the cycle begins anew. When has it been that a dictator hasn't ruled Russia? Before Putin, communist leaders, and before them, monarchs? Its a huge country empire that's impossible to govern democratically. Only an idiot would try to implement western type "pseudo democracy" there (You even had one of those and we all know what that looked like.) - which would result in Americans buying out every political option and fermenting a revolution every other weekend like they do in Ukraine.
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So you're going to keep looking for more facts until you find some that suit you. Why is it so hard to believe that a part of the problem is Islam, that these men come from a different culture that is used to violence and harsh punishment, governance through fear in other words - and therefore aren't afraid to do what they do because they know they can (mostly) get away with it? That the police response will be meek and the natives too sheep like and docile. How do you think people like Saddam Hussen, the Saudis etc. ruled and stayed in power?
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The real solution is mass deportation and a barrier to immigration from certain countries and economic segments in general. Requiring knowledge of the native tongue is a simple and very good barrier (for everyone except the english speaking countries). Everything else takes too long, is too expensive and uncertain. Haha. In the late 90's and early 2000's we had a "problem" over here with Eastern European and especially former Yugoslavs basically taking over organized crime. Assaults, extortion, drug and arms trade, women trafficking, murder for hire, you name it. These guys did it all. The level of violence they employed was unheard of back then (given that many of them were ex-military) and they were significant enough that law enforcement had to be reorganized to deal with them. Many, especially in the media, were quick to jump on the xenophobia bandwagon. Total amount was less than 200k back then, imagine the "overrepresentation" in crime statistics. Guess we should have deported everyone originating from beyond the Stettin-Trieste line en masse, right? Go on, explain to me why folks from your (former) country are fundamentally different and don't deserve such treatment. And don't forget, always warm up properly before performing mental gymnastics. You should have hanged every singe one of them connected to organized crime and deported some as an example to the others, so that they're less likely to cover for the criminals they know. I don't give a flying **** about the nationality of criminals. On the other hand, if you didn't jump on the train to making Yugoslavia a hellhole most of them wouldn't have come in the first place. But if you want an answer why Yugoslav immigration is by default better than any muslim immigration and does not require mass deportation to solve: 1. all ex-Yugoslavs are Europeans and more or less fully assimilate in the second generation to whatever European country they go to. My cousin is such an immigrant to Austria and he's more German than anything else now 2. no terrorism and extremely low likelihood of it 3. culturally compatible, not religiously fanatical and a generally higher education level 4. moderate or low birth rate
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If you cut your finger, take the whole arm off. No arm, no problem. An easy, not terribly complicated solution that doesn't take any time. Perfect. The fallacy is treating this problem as: 1. your own (as if the native population is to blame for it) 2. something you're obligated to solve in any other way than what's the best for you
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Of course. Just build a wall and every problem will be solved. That seems to be a popular sentiment around the world right now. No, that problem will be solved. When you want to drive a nail in you take a hammer. You can do it with your forehead, but the result will be painful and you won't get much done. As is evident from everything that has been going on this past year.
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The real solution is mass deportation and a barrier to immigration from certain countries and economic segments in general. Requiring knowledge of the native tongue is a simple and very good barrier (for everyone except the english speaking countries). Everything else takes too long, is too expensive and uncertain.
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Yes. Any mass of uneducated immigrants being uprooted and dropped in a foreign culture is going to be problematic. You brought up organized crime. Do we condemn all Italians for the spread of organized crime across the US? Keep in mind it took nearly a century to root out the bulk of their influence across the country. Problematic, yes. I said as much. But not problematic in the way it is currently in Europe. Its not just organized crime, riots and general disorder. There's also terrorism and the clash of civilizations element. And its getting worse instead of getting better.
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I never said Islam was a rape-mindset or that Imams were inspiring rape, merely pointed out the obvious religious justification provided for these acts to those who need it. Uncovered European women are "indecent" and therefore these sort of acts are allowed towards them, or at least not disallowed (religious argument). No Imam is going to stand behind such a thing in public and many of them probably look at the whole issue with distaste but they're not going to tell the parents to teach their kids otherwise, nor are the parents going to do anything about it (unless they end up in jail and cause problems for the family). On top of that they're the new lumpenproletariat and Europeans are the hated burgoise. "They (the europeans) have the money and the means and we (the immigrants) are there to clean the trash and flip kebabs forever (economic argument)" And on top of that there is the whole Islam vs the West, or West vs Islam war aspect. "You support the Zionist state of Israel against our brothers in Gaza, bomb Iraq, Libya, Syria etc." (political argument). Beyond that you can go to simple criminality, and while there are surely typical criminals there that's not the sole aspect of the issue here and to treat it as such would be utter blindness. Its case of a separate identity of which Islam, economic circumstances and political baggage are a crucial part and that identity is refusing to assimilate into the host countries (or even to merely coexist in peace). And this is one way of doing it. The question is, what are European politicians going to do about it? As for the role of Islam in all this, ponder the possibility that these masses of people didn't have Islam. Do you think they'd have the cohesion to organize a mass molestation event, protests, violence against Jews, an entire segregated lifestyle? I challenge you to say yes. Because there are a lot of immigrants in Europe and while certain nations are tied to organized crime, types of business, certain political issues etc. please tell me if there is any group that is nearly as problematic as those who declare themselves muslims in Europe.
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They're all muslims yet Islam is irrelevant. Now I've seen it all. Don't you have a degree in social science? Are you aware how stupid and illogical that sounds? Where do you think the attitude that uncovered women in general and western/white women in particular are whores and "free game" comes from?
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You think YOU got issues in your country :biggrin:
Drowsy Emperor replied to BruceVC's topic in Way Off-Topic
Whenever I read something like this a quote from the village geezer in Asterix comes to mind: "I've got nothing against strangers (as in foreigners), only these particular strangers aren't from this village!" Also, why do people reflexively post things they'll regret on Facebook and Twitter? I'll never understand it. -
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Drowsy Emperor replied to Blarghagh's topic in Way Off-Topic
The world must be filled with angsty teenagers, because this movie is a monster hit in every way. Anything with Star Wars in it would have been a monster hit. Not denying that the film is palatable, the exact same way the Star Trek reboot was. But Kylo Ren wasn't the best thing in it. I feel the old Star Wars film was primarily a movie for children, but also a film for everyone. I don't think that's the case here - that the appeal among adults won't be as universal a few years down the line. -
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Exactly. What people seem to not understand about Kylo Ren even though the movie signals it very, very carefully is that he's basically an angsty teenager with little to no self-control and an unhealthy dose of hero worship towards Vader, who has somehow managed to skid along on sheer force talent alone, but never had the training to make real use of that talent, or a need to step up his game. I think he was the best part of the movie, honestly. Cool story bro, but what you describe is un-watchable if you're over 16. Angsty teenagers leading galactic empires is a show for angsty teenagers. -
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Drowsy Emperor replied to Blarghagh's topic in Way Off-Topic
Because witnesses are gonna witness what? Tell who? I'm talking about the execution after the attack, not the attack itself. And its just there as a device for the screenwriters to make TFO, like, really bad, man and Kylo Ren "evil". Its pointless. It'd be like the Empire finding R2D2 and then nuking Tatooine because they can. The film is full of such things hoping that the quick pacing will keep you from thinking about what you're seeing. -
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I don't know about you, but I don't think there's any difference here between TFA and the previous six movies. I don't remember thinking once that any of the villains in those movies "instilled true fear" or had a significant capability for "tyrannical power" that the First Order doesn't. If anything the FO has more capability of tyrannical power than the Empire (through Starkiller Base) which is quite a bit of a fail, since they are meant to be more of an upstart faction. That's the point. They have all that technology but still failed to convince me that they were a force to be reckonned with. **** characters in leadership positions and presentation, IMO. Yes, amateur screenwriters like the people who wrote the film seem to thing that "Evil" needs no reason or justification. In the beginning when they shoot up those civilians without even a pretense of an excuse is more suited to Mongols burning European villages (and even that has a reason behind it) than a fascist empire, an epitome of institutionalized cruel order. Merely because the film needs them to be "evil" and the main guy to be "badass" screenwriters throw in that sort of arbitrary nonsense. -
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Vader and the Emperor are simple archetypal characters (prior to the back-story in the prequels) that were very well executed. Its very hard to do something so simple so well, because its been done a million times before. The new villains are supposed to have more drama about them, at least Kylo Ren is, but everything from his appearance to his temper tantrums are on a Jar Jar Binks level of embarrassment. Most of all he lacks a credible reason for being what he is and doing what he does. The other three villains might as well not exist in the film. Waiting for a sequel to provide the necessary reasons is the epitome of corporate film-making. For all its flaws, A New Hope is a completely rounded film, and so are the next two. The characters are sufficient as they are and filled in over time. I'm playing the Warcraft 3 campaign and I'm struck by the fact that Arthas is better written than any TFA villain. And he has, maybe fifty lines of text in a video game. -
Are you saying they don't blend into the crowd with those tailor made assassin hoodie outfits and makeup?
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Was it Jeff Goldblum?
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Drowsy Emperor replied to Blarghagh's topic in Way Off-Topic
You don't have to feel roused, you just have to feel that the actor is doing the role properly. Which he isn't. He looks, as someone else put it, like a frat boy. He is not intimidating or convincing in the role. Its not (just) his youth, since Alexander the great was already a conqueror at his age - its the whole package. While the scene was going on, my friend and I both turned away at the same time at how embarrassing the whole thing was. It wasn't even a conscious decision, we just couldn't look at this somewhat comical looking guy trying to be gestapo. And the scene was not intentionally comical, just badly written. -
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Presumably to keep his ears warm. But its not a great costume choice for a film.