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Sweden is beyond salvation:
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Getting them is one thing, getting to use them is another. There are so many American bases in the region they could wipe Saudi Arabia off the map in 24 hours probably. Especially if you take into consideration that its another non-state held together by little more than a couple of dozen individuals.
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They're just trying to disperse a bit them to get Calais out of the media and pass the hot potato to some other unlucky locals. Its possibly even worse, because in Calais its blatant how much of a problem it actually is, if they do disperse among other French cities its just going to contribute to crime and disorder in an even fashion so there will be no obligation to report on it and the politicians can keep on pretending that everything is fine.
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Come the next electoral cycle (if this thing doesn't implode before that) you will find that reports of European civility have been greatly exaggerated. Now if this does in fact go on, I'll have to agree with your eurocuck assessment. :D
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The lack of response to these, now, daily occurrences is incredible. I was against this from the start, but even I'm surprised that even asylum workers are being raped... or killed like that girl in Sweden. I was regularly accused of being prejudiced on this forum ... or a racist, or even a fascist. Now that the outcome is even worse than I foresaw it - well? Where are the usual SJW suspects?
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I dunno, the wiki is a bit bizarre. It says they have 150 000 troops on the ground and only 81 casualties since March last year. So that's either the laziest war ever considering the weekly traffic casualty numbers of Monaco are probably higher than that, or the stats are bull****. *Original source of 150 000 is CNN quoting KSA officials so that's worth about as much a booger.
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Most of the troops will likely be mercenaries of some sort. The Saudis are ****ty troops but the US has been wringing their arm for decades to buy the best military gear available. So they have quite a bit tech wise. Control of air space is going to be the key here. If they really want to support Al Nusra and the rest of them they have to do it in the same space that the Russians are using. Its the only way to swing the war the other way. As its highly unlikely that the opposing air forces are just going to ignore each other while they pound on ground troops and positions they will (eventually) have to fight the Russians to get anywhere. As the Saudis will use a NATO base in Turkey (one with tactical nuclear weapons btw) what they're probably hoping for is to do their "work" and run for (NATO) cover. We'll see just how that goes for them.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-sends-troops-and-fighter-jets-to-military-base-in-turkey-ahead-of-intervention-against-a6871611.html Saudis sending troops and aircraft to turkish border air base to "fight ISIS" and remove Assad. With Russia-Assad-Iran's forces stomping the rebels this is obviously a counter-measure so that the various terrorists groups the Saudis have been supporting don't get wiped out. This thing is slowly but surely spiraling out of control. Only the Chinese need to send ground troops next and then the Americans and we've got the prelude to WW3.
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Not saying that you're wrong but there used to be a stronger sense of personal responsibility and community post WW2, at least until the 80s. The discourse was very much about "us", even with political manipulation and abuse. The new technocrats show no remorse, apparently don't feel responsible for anything and don't feel the need to justify anything they do. Worst of all, the new public is fine with that. I don't see this sort of thing being slipped by the generation that spawned everything from the student protests to the Baader Meinhof (regarless of how misguided a lot of it was or wasn't) - but the impulse to act politically was there. It doesn't look like its there anymore.
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What I find most surprising is that there is so little sympathy for the locals that have to bear the brunt of this policy. The message seems to be "suck it up" and the appropriate answer is "what's the point of the nation state then?". Why do you pay taxes to a state for it to import people that don't pay taxes and then dump them on you with no plan or perspective as to what comes next. Sounds like a bad deal. Maybe revise the social contract, no? The lunacy of Europe
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Trump Trump Trump Trump
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The crowd is behaving as I'd expect of normal people but I'm wondering about the culture that spawned him (the mayor). What he says is so stupid, self-defeating and immensely humiliating that I can't help but wonder if he believes in it. Because if he didn't believe it he'd have the savvy to keep his mouth shut or give some non-answer. And if he does believe it, well, I think a team of psychologists should analyse him to see what sort of mental deficiency he's suffering from and if its curable. Its like he was vat grown separately from the general population. It just does not compute that you can live your whole life in a country, be elected to represent people and think like that - at the local level no less, where you don't have as much pressure from foreign policy, high politics etc. to act in a certain way.
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https://youtu.be/XdSsJQ-fvOU What is wrong with this man
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Most of them tear up their passports and claim to be from Syria so any official statistics trying to distinguish between refugees and migrants are bogus.
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If the article is true, then yes. They were probably just waiting for them to start something :D
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https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2016/02/06/russia-51-merkel-muslims-molest-women-end-in-hospital/ Lol <3 Dem Russians
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Where was this? I presume Iraq but the local part is confusing me
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That's belief/ morality/ tradition; not rationality. They didn't do an in depth analysis of the pro and cons before coming up with those rules, they do it because their parents did it or the Flying Spaghetti Monster('s representative(s)) 'told' them to. Belief is not a synonym for rationality, and it doesn't matter how hard the person believes or whether you put airquotes around it. And rationality doesn't rest on quasi-religious foundations? Its perfectly feasible to rationalize anything depending on the framework you start from (whether it be sharia-law or civil law), and you would not be wrong to do it too.
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Its not the sympathy itself that's the problem, Swedish leftist (enforced) discourse seems to be that: 1. all criminality is based on societal circumstances of the person, not his/her own fault (something that's demonstrably untrue and is definitely not universal) 2. no 1. especially if the perpetrator is a refugee/muslim Thus the argument is no longer about expressing concern for the individual or society itself, but about protecting the extreme pro-migration political stance. Because through blaming "society", "conditions" and other impersonal concepts the individual is partly absolved of guilt and it doesn't look as bad in the media. Its sort of pre-empting the inevitable - yet another refugee/muslim committing a crime as an argument in favor of anti-immigration policy.
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Being a refugee used to be about being desperate and grateful to get a second chance somewhere else. How likely would it be that a post WWII displaced European refugee would stab someone trying to help him, in a free shelter no less? By the way, everyone seems to ignore the fact that most of these people aren't really refugees in the true meaning of the word... and that's fine? Because if they aren't refugees then they're not accorded the benefits of international law and that's enough grounds to stop them at the border (which should have been done a year ago?). What is wrong with Euro "elites" that they **** on their own people for other people they weren't elected to care about, ignoring all the while the obvious warning signals from the police, intelligence services and their own citizens. Hell, even their own media can't suppress all the negative outcomes their "solution" to the refugee problem has wrought. Guess they don't read their own papers, or its too late for the political dip****s to backtrack now. Seriously, this is worthy of academic research.
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The proper reaction is to add him to the fire Stop holding Muslims to any standard you right-wing racist. The spurious, irresponsible and frankly harmful claims about the existence of a middle ground between wishing fiery death on someone and uncritically agreeing with anything they say are an obvious ploy by the Enemy, and we'll treat any who spread them as an agent provocateur. Is a middle ground if we season him first? The man is a notable individual in his community, blaming the behavior of his flock on the culture of the natives, which have given them and him a country to live in, certain freedoms and benefits. How much more insulting can it get? With leadership like that his mosque can only be a problem, not a solution. He really should be encouraged to change his line of work.
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The proper reaction is to add him to the fire Stop holding Muslims to any standard you right-wing racist. I keep trying to wash off the swastika but it keeps showing up again I plead forgiveness
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You understand none of this do you? The point of the beards is for the fundamentalists to differentiate themselves via appearance, to send a message, in this case "we are following the true teachings of the prophet". Same thing with the hijab. The other part of that message is "you (as in the rest of the muslim populace) are not". Its closet separatism and peer pressure. The government is trying to curtail the trend before it becomes potentially dangerous, for them. Its not the matter of the clothes or the beards, its the message they send. They're also doing you a favor by trying to keep their own muslim populace from embracing fundamentalism, or the next terrorist attack in USA or Canada or wherever, may be committed by a Tajikistani national. Incidentally, jihadi manuals suggest shaving beards to look more westernized. So a terrorist that's planning something is unlikely to look like a fundamentalist. But stopping the ideology in its tracks is lessening the possibility of there actually being terrorists.
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Islam is a state religion in Tajikistan and they're not secular in the European sense of the word. Nothing like it. What the ruling elite doesn't want is to let fundamentalists that could be sponsored from outside and incited against the government take hold. And they want the clerics under their control as well, not preaching insubordination. Forcing the women out of the hijab and shaving beards is way to enforce religious uniformity and not let the fundamentalists differentiate themselves physically and set up a "trend". Its a mild measure to preempt possible problems, rest assured they'll use much harsher methods if they have to. Its not bizarre or wrong, but well thought out at this point in time. If France did the same they'd break up the fundamentalist communities to a degree and have less problems..
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What a bizarre thing to do, this is only going to increase animosity from the Muslim community in Tajikistan Tajikistan is a muslim country you doofus
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